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[strike wolf]

Because I am looking back through the last few pages and it seems like Aage might indeed be the Godfather... It is quite possible that they are both mafia and that Vio is unlynchable. Or that Vio is innocent and Aage is the Godfather. I think it would be better to err on the side of caution. If he is indeed the Godfather. I would be willing to accidentally lynch a townie if there is a chance at lynching the Godfather. What do you guys think?

I'm sorry, I think this is very important. Why is no one responding?

For one thing you only posted it two hours ago...another thing it's been suggested already. Other than that, I'm waiting on some answers from Aage and vio before I strike forward too far into this game. Most importantly: Did Mr. Squirrel tell you that the other was town aligned? or did you hear it from the other person?

Finally and I think people have been suggesting this of you for a while Herk, Quality of posts is more important than quantity. You don't have to make a post about every thought in your head and if you are going to make a post make sure it's at least somewhat logical and organized...you post a lot of stuff that's barely coherent and even more that's just fluff. When there's a lot of fluff it can make it hard to go back through the game and find the information one is looking for which helps no one and irritates everyone.

[spiesr]

Because I am looking back through the last few pages and it seems like Aage might indeed be the Godfather... It is quite possible that they are both mafia and that Vio is unlynchable. Or that Vio is innocent and Aage is the Godfather. I think it would be better to err on the side of caution. If he is indeed the Godfather. I would be willing to accidentally lynch a townie if there is a chance at lynching the Godfather. What do you guys think?

I'm sorry, I think this is very important. Why is no one responding?

Because, this possibility doesn't change anything. Either Aage is telling the truth, or he is lying. If he is lying he wouldn't have to be the Godfather because he is already lying he wouldn't have to telling the truth about being bullet-proof. Also, an unlynchable mafia member seems to be extremely unbalanced and could be game breaking if there aren't multi mafia groups and/or multiple town killing roles. Although in could possibly be balanced by having it die if another role dies. On the whole, it seems unlikely that violet would be an unlynchable scum. Whether either of them is telling the truth, or if aage is scum anyway, is less clear...

[naxus]

Public confirmation please Mr S. I have never seen an unlynchable role used that way.

I cannot give any information on a specific role whether it is in my game or not. I cannot clarify anything that does not relate to your own role. I've never played with an unlynchable townie before so I don't know the way it is generally done.

With this announcement I still say we lynch Vi just to see what happens. Really three options

1.Vi gets lynched, proving aage was lying and we move to him day 3
2. Vi gets the number of votes needed for a lynch and nothing happens. We then know Vi's role is confirmed and aage is atleast somewhat truthful. We then move on to either Saxlad, Jace, or maybe Herk(if anything just to panic him)
3.Vi gets the number of votes, doesn't get killed and we move to night. Aage and vi are proven but we lose a lynch.

No matter what scenario occurs we still get info. Worst case being the third.Unvote Vote Vi as it seems like squirell is missing my vote

Also anyone know this yet?

Whats it called if its a bodyguard that kills whoever targeted the person the bodyguards protecting?

[spiesr]

Also anyone know this yet?

Whats it called if its a bodyguard that kills whoever targeted the person the bodyguards protecting?

This says that an Elite Bodyguard kills anyone attacking the person they protect, but dies as well...

[VioIet]

Please explain to me how I can be more precise than "we are town"? Is there a hidden message in there? Or might I be only telling half of the truth by saying "we are town"? Please do elaborate, please, startle me, do anything. Saying "yeah but ARE YOU TOWN?!?!" every time I say "eh we are town" isn't working.

Aaga, and violet, what is wanted is for you to make one of the following three statements:
1. "My role pm states that my partner is town."
2. "My role pm does not mention my partner's alignment."
3. "My role pm says that I do not know my partner's alignment."

So just pick the applicable statement and say it already.

1. "My role pm states that my partner is town.

Illiad your response to my post was very thoughtful- however I feel as though you missed what I was trying to say.
Like aage implied- perhaps I just didn't explain myself clearly enough. Thanks stefunny, for clarifying some things for me. You stated it better than I was able to.

I don't understand why people are still voting aage. Perhaps you don't agree with his arguments. But he is town.
Herkman is also believed to be a townie, but has not role claimed. Not saying he should- but why believe someone who hasn't claimed yet (herk), over a townie who has claimed (aage).

Aage is town. I am town. There is no more info/leads to find out here. You can continue to vote me to test if i'm unlynchable or not. Nothing wrong with that. But I do think it is time to find another target besides myself.

Public confirmation please Mr S. I have never seen an unlynchable role used that way.

I cannot give any information on a specific role whether it is in my game or not. I cannot clarify anything that does not relate to your own role. I've never played with an unlynchable townie before so I don't know the way it is generally done.

Thinking out loud: Why would the mod use a mechanic that he is unfamiliar with?

I do wish that one of those modkilled had been mafia. I see lala was third party.

[aage]

Well,, I am slightly happy with the fact that the guy who could change the lynch has died. She could've made things a lot more shitty today.

I'm sorry, I think this is very important. Why is no one responding?

Because you copy-pasted this from someone else's post, that's why.

Ok, guys. This is seriously bothering me. If Aage is the Godfather (I think he is), then we will need to lynch him as he can't be NK'd. I really think we need to vote Aage now more than ever. His recent claim has only confirmed my original suspicions.

Wait. I'm being tunneled?
I challenge any cop out there to come and take a look at my role. If I am what I say I am I suggest you shut up and we'll just keep playing. If I turn out to be scum I suggest one of you claims and says "omg he is scum!!1!11!" only to find themselves lynched the next day.

Aaga, and violet, what is wanted is for you to make one of the following three statements:
1. "My role pm states that my partner is town."
2. "My role pm does not mention my partner's alignment."
3. "My role pm says that I do not know my partner's alignment."

Geez. My pm doesn't mention alignment, it simply says "you win if all threats to town are eliminated". That pretty much makes us town, I guess.

[Thezzaruz]

Isn't the godfather bulletproof?

That varies for mod to mod (and I don't know how Mr S usually does it). The one defining trait of a mafia GF is to turn up as town/innocent when investigated by a Cop.

However if he is indeed part of the mafia and his motive was to destroy your group, why would the godfather do it himself? It would be much likelier that an expendable mafia goon would try and destroy your group, if your group is what you're claiming it to be .

He could very well have hoped to not draw enough suspicion for a lynch but rather for a investigation the following night and being the GF he would then have shown up as town. It's not unusual for a GF to play a bit more aggressively because of their investigation protection.

I challenge any cop out there to come and take a look at my role. If I am what I say I am I suggest you shut up and we'll just keep playing. If I turn out to be scum I suggest one of you claims and says "omg he is scum!!1!11!" only to find themselves lynched the next day.

And there it came.

I'm not yet convinced you are the GF but I have to admit that almost every post you make takes you closer to it.

[Thezzaruz]

I am leaning toward changing my vote but I don't know that voting a lynch on violet would REALLY tell us anything besides that she may or may not be unlynchable.

But that in itself I think would be worth knowing.

Not yet convinced it would be worth a no lynch day though.

Whats it called if its a bodyguard that kills whoever targeted the person the bodyguards protecting?

"Elite" or "Professional" BodyGuard usually. But as spiesr mentioned BodyGuards dies instead of their protectee so it doesn't really fit with what happened last night.

[theherkman]

Okay, does him being bulletproof mean he can't be killed at night? Or by bullets? Can he be poisoned for instance? Or recruited to 3rd party? Or roleblocked? What if he targets a bomb by sending in the NK? What actions can be taken on a bulletproof character during the night phase?

This is a question for both Aage and veteran players.

[Iliad]

Okay, does him being bulletproof mean he can't be killed at night? Or by bullets?

hahahaha

That's fucking gold, herk. Thanks for that.

[theherkman]

Okay, does him being bulletproof mean he can't be killed at night? Or by bullets?

hahahaha

That's fucking gold, herk. Thanks for that.

You're welcome. I asked that just for your lolz.

[ga7]

Well, if you're still interested, Squirrel actually answered my pm confirming what I already suspected. The votes will be removed and the day will continue. Is it really that odd to believe that would have happened? Apparently my logic is as flawed as the Mod's is..

Public confirmation please Mr S. I have never seen an unlynchable role used that way.

I cannot give any information on a specific role whether it is in my game or not. I cannot clarify anything that does not relate to your own role. I've never played with an unlynchable townie before so I don't know the way it is generally done.

I cannot clarify anything that does not relate to your own role.

While it's a pity Mr S can't confirm it, his statement proves that Aage has lied. He supposedly received info on Violet's role. Seeing Mr S statement soon after that it proves he wouldn't have given that clarification to Aage.

This is the last element of a scummy trail that leads me to believe more and more the GF theory is correct. I'll make a longer post later on, but that particular element is quite revealing already.

Btw Herk, bulletproof means he can only be killed through a lynch. Godfathers have two default powers: choosing the mafia kill and appearing town upon investigation. They are very often also bulletproof, I'd need to check on Mr S' previous games to see how he usually does it. Anyway laters...

[edocsil]

Well, if you're still interested, Squirrel actually answered my pm confirming what I already suspected. The votes will be removed and the day will continue. Is it really that odd to believe that would have happened? Apparently my logic is as flawed as the Mod's is..

Public confirmation please Mr S. I have never seen an unlynchable role used that way.

I cannot give any information on a specific role whether it is in my game or not. I cannot clarify anything that does not relate to your own role. I've never played with an unlynchable townie before so I don't know the way it is generally done.

I cannot clarify anything that does not relate to your own role.

While it's a pity Mr S can't confirm it, his statement proves that Aage has lied. He supposedly received info on Violet's role. Seeing Mr S statement soon after that it proves he wouldn't have given that clarification to Aage.

This is the last element of a scummy trail that leads me to believe more and more the GF theory is correct. I'll make a longer post later on, but that particular element is quite revealing already.

Btw Herk, bulletproof means he can only be killed through a lynch. Godfathers have two default powers: choosing the mafia kill and appearing town upon investigation. They are very often also bulletproof, I'd need to check on Mr S' previous games to see how he usually does it. Anyway laters...

Well this is quite interesting, makes me far more curious to test vio, depending on what happens we could LaL aage.

[theherkman]

Good catch, ga7. It seems we have found us a gf.

[theherkman]

Well this is quite interesting, makes me far more curious to test vio, depending on what happens we could LaL aage.

It isn't interesting. It is proof that Aage lied. We have already gone over the fact that lynching her WILL NOT prove anyone's alignment.

FOS EDOCSIL

I don't believe this is a case of mere skimming, this looks like a blatant defense.

Once Aage is lynched and turns up GF, you sir, will receive my vote.

[theherkman]

Okay, so we have Aage as GF, Blake was scum, edocsil is scum. Anyone else? Mafia role call!

[strike wolf]

unvote vote aage ga7's catch about aage lying as well as the previous suspicious behavior from throughout the day are enough to make you in a league of your own the best candidate for lynch.

[theherkman]

Hey strike, you think he will rat out the other scum out of spite? Hehe, one can always hope.

[theherkman]

I'm excited! I've been right about two scum so far!!!! If he is town I'm gonna be mad he lied... I guess we have to lynch him to find out though.

[strike wolf]

Well, if you're still interested, Squirrel actually answered my pm confirming what I already suspected. The votes will be removed and the day will continue. Is it really that odd to believe that would have happened? Apparently my logic is as flawed as the Mod's is..

Public confirmation please Mr S. I have never seen an unlynchable role used that way.

I cannot give any information on a specific role whether it is in my game or not. I cannot clarify anything that does not relate to your own role. I've never played with an unlynchable townie before so I don't know the way it is generally done.

I cannot clarify anything that does not relate to your own role.

While it's a pity Mr S can't confirm it, his statement proves that Aage has lied. He supposedly received info on Violet's role. Seeing Mr S statement soon after that it proves he wouldn't have given that clarification to Aage.

This is the last element of a scummy trail that leads me to believe more and more the GF theory is correct. I'll make a longer post later on, but that particular element is quite revealing already.

Btw Herk, bulletproof means he can only be killed through a lynch. Godfathers have two default powers: choosing the mafia kill and appearing town upon investigation. They are very often also bulletproof, I'd need to check on Mr S' previous games to see how he usually does it. Anyway laters...

In xmen mafia magneto was bulletproof and I believe the godfather in watchmen mafia was too.

[strike wolf]

Hey strike, you think he will rat out the other scum out of spite? Hehe, one can always hope.

Probably not nut like you said one can only hope.

Though I must warn youh your ego is getting a bit big....

[theherkman]

My ego has always been big. Being right only exacerbates the root issue of pride.

[Thezzaruz]

ga7's post convinced me I was a bit to quick to believe aage's claim so I'll Vote aage again.

Okay, does him being bulletproof mean he can't be killed at night? Or by bullets? Can he be poisoned for instance? Or recruited to 3rd party? Or roleblocked? What if he targets a bomb by sending in the NK? What actions can be taken on a bulletproof character during the night phase?

The default trait of a Bulletproof role is that any night kill actions that targets him will fail but any other actions would still go through as normal.

I'm excited! I've been right about two scum so far!!!! If he is town I'm gonna be mad he lied... I guess we have to lynch him to find out though.

Ahem... Quality over quantity herk.

Well this is quite interesting, makes me far more curious to test vio, depending on what happens we could LaL aage.

Wait a minute, aage acts scummy so you want to try a lynch on Vio? A lynch that is likely to end the day and give the scum an extra night phase to do scummy stuff before we can have another go at the one that looks scummy atm. That's horrendously poor reasoning tbh and definitely deserving of a FoS edocsil.

[karelpietertje]

So, guys, you seem to be sure of it; what exactly is the case on aage?

[strike wolf]

Well, if you're still interested, Squirrel actually answered my pm confirming what I already suspected. The votes will be removed and the day will continue. Is it really that odd to believe that would have happened? Apparently my logic is as flawed as the Mod's is..

Public confirmation please Mr S. I have never seen an unlynchable role used that way.

I cannot give any information on a specific role whether it is in my game or not. I cannot clarify anything that does not relate to your own role. I've never played with an unlynchable townie before so I don't know the way it is generally done.

I cannot clarify anything that does not relate to your own role.

While it's a pity Mr S can't confirm it, his statement proves that Aage has lied. He supposedly received info on Violet's role. Seeing Mr S statement soon after that it proves he wouldn't have given that clarification to Aage.

This is the last element of a scummy trail that leads me to believe more and more the GF theory is correct. I'll make a longer post later on, but that particular element is quite revealing already.

Btw Herk, bulletproof means he can only be killed through a lynch. Godfathers have two default powers: choosing the mafia kill and appearing town upon investigation. They are very often also bulletproof, I'd need to check on Mr S' previous games to see how he usually does it. Anyway laters...

In xmen mafia magneto was bulletproof and I believe the godfather in watchmen mafia was too.

Correction: I didn't find anything that said magneto was bulletproof however ozymandias in watchmen mafia was.