New Briarsburg Mafia. Town Wins! Ga7 wins the premium prize!

[strike wolf]

whilst I don't doubt your claim, a game this side is likely to have a mayor I personally think you are over-stating/over-selling your role, I rarely see the mayor's powers actually used. Don't mean to sound like a cock but there are others who the town would benefit more if they are wearing protection in the coming night phase.

*refrains from immature sex joke*

[nagerous]

whilst I don't doubt your claim, a game this side is likely to have a mayor I personally think you are over-stating/over-selling your role, I rarely see the mayor's powers actually used. Don't mean to sound like a cock but there are others who the town would benefit more if they are wearing protection in the coming night phase.

*refrains from immature sex joke*

I guess I am immature then as that was a deliberate analogy.

[FloresDelMal]

Right Now Imma Gonna Claim.

I am The Mayor Of New Briasburg. Yes. Imma Supposed to be keeping control of you people. Obviously most of you know what a govenors power is. I can stop a lynch. My god imma need protecting.

well after daze and aage as precedents, i suppose is not so far fetched that a third townie acted more scummy than scum, tsk tsk, for now ill unvote sax but ill keep my FOS on him/her and it could prove useful to get an investigation and/or a roleblock here, sax if you are really town then please straight your game, because is awful

Victor is lying about him vistiting the Herk on night one. Only Blake and Fircoal vistied Herk night one.

that's good enough for me to go from FOS to vote victor

Touché. I admit I played that poorly. Might as well leak some things I know:
1. There are 2 mafia factions, freezie wasn't apart of mine but blakebowling was.
2. I am the poisoner. I performed my poison kill on Fircoal Night 1. The only other person left in my faction killed freezie last night.
3. My poison kill is unblockable, and if I don't make the kill for my mafia, I can investigate someone's alignment. I investigated Flores and got innocent... I've only done one investigation, obviously, so who knows? I could be insane or something.

Any more stuff you'd like to know before you lynch me? (I will not rat out my partner in crime, though )

-Esther

now this is totally unprecedented,im shock, this is the first time ever that i get cleared up by scum, call me paranoid, but are you trying to drag me down with you? because if you do, it is a seriously bad ass move, kudos i can almost hear commander or herk say "OMG he tried to clear up flo before die, she must be the godfather, before i was 300% sure that she was scum, but now i am 500% certain that she is scum, yay me i got scum without even use a night action, i am too good to be real".

Well this is the first time I've seen a mafia member give up information so willingly...this makes sense. If there was a second mafia faction it would explain why Freezie was aggressive in trying to lynch Jace. If he thought Jace might be a part of the second mafia faction he would want to take out that person. Though I don't believe we can believe everything Victor says...sorry flores but I'm not convinced when he tells me you're innocent. If anything I have more doubt about you now.

damn strike, im so dissapointed, i really thought it could be commander or herk the ones buying this

[strike wolf]

whilst I don't doubt your claim, a game this side is likely to have a mayor I personally think you are over-stating/over-selling your role, I rarely see the mayor's powers actually used. Don't mean to sound like a cock but there are others who the town would benefit more if they are wearing protection in the coming night phase.

*refrains from immature sex joke*

I guess I am immature then as that was a deliberate analogy.

I caught it but who really care?

In all seriousness I do agree with you. I don't see the mayor being as effective as commander's role and the role that I believe Naxus is and they seem to have a pretty good idea of what they are doing with their abilities.

don't be too worried Flor. I don't completely buy it and it does cross my mind the potential to drag you down (I don't see why a poisoner would also have investigative abilities but I guess it would explain the gun?) but I can see why telling town there is a second mafia group would help out his side of the mafia but I don't see how pointing out an innocent has anything to do with it. It's worth keeping an eye on you but I at least personally wouldn't investigate you just because he said you were innocent and he's scum.

[FloresDelMal]

ok im having second thoughts about this, what if he cleared me as town for scum to NK mmmhh well if i get NK tonight i want to let everyone know that last night i got visited by tailgunner, so it might be worth the shot to investigate him, since he might be the scum roleblocker or cop (yes scum cop does exist).

Victor before you die, can you tell me your role pwetty pwease? you seem quite overpowered being able to investigate AND poison, so i am very curious, grant a dying girl wish, wont you dear?

[FloresDelMal]

My dear, dear Flores, I'm fully aware that you belong to someone else and I'm not trying to change anything I will say that I do like your post and what you've done in this game so far, but I still consider you and Haggis to be the scums.

oh dear, if i get NK dont weep for me, i must say that read you was frustrating at times, but most of the time was quite amusing, and in your latest posts you really started to evolve, even thought you are wrong about me being scum, your logic was well constructed, and that makes me smile and look forward to play again with you, i think you will turn out in a good player, cool ^^

Doc, cop, if you are out there, dont waste a night action on me, it most likely wont be worth it, go town ^^

[TheSaxlad]

Ok firstly I didn't bold my vote but. What's the possibility of viccy being a joker? It would make sense as by claiming scum he is trying to get lynched...?

[strike wolf]

I don't think his behavior is consistent with a jester...actually if there had been a jester I thought it would have turned up by now tbh. There is the possibility but I don't think he is...

[karelpietertje]

I don't believe he's a jester. Intentionally fake-claiming, expecting us to see the incongruity between owning a gun and being a CPR Doctor, seems far-fetched to me.

The situation of a non-CPR Doctor mafia goon trying to make the actual CPR Doctor claim is far-fetched nor too obvious, so I'm assuming that is the case.

vote Victor Sullivan, if there weren't enough votes yet.

I look forward to Day 4.

[Thezzaruz]

Geez guys, a few hours to watch a movie and all hell breaks loose.

vote Victor Sullivan, if there weren't enough votes yet.

I'll echo this, UnVote and then a Vote Victor Sullivan.

Saxlads claim is fairly believable I guess even though I think it was somewhat premature. The pressure was there improve posting quality but not to claim. Nothing major but still something I'll note for future reference.

whilst I don't doubt your claim, a game this side is likely to have a mayor I personally think you are over-stating/over-selling your role, I rarely see the mayor's powers actually used. Don't mean to sound like a cock but there are others who the town would benefit more if they are wearing protection in the coming night phase.

Agreed. A Governor role can be very valuable under the right circumstances (especially late in the game) but at this stage any investigative roles out there are much more valuable to us.

Well this is the first time I've seen a mafia member give up information so willingly...

Unfortunately I've seen it before. And then, just as now, it had more of a "throwing his toys out of the pram" kind of feel than a "I'll confuse the hell out of them" kind of feel. But I guess all info is good info, it's just a bit boring when given for the wrong reasons.

[strike wolf]

Yeah I don't think vics telling the full truth particularly about the investigation ability however some of what he said makes sense and echoes somethings I had been wondering myself regarding why Freezie went after jace fairly agressively yesterday.

[Iliad]

Unvote vote victor
Good catch investigative roles all around. I'm pretty sure that my vote puts victor at about l+2 or so, but just in case I'll vote anyway.
Kinda strange how quickly victor capitulated his defence but I guess he was caught pretty damn red-handed.

I'm still fairly suspicious of sax and jace, but that will have to wait for now.

[naxus]

although if he turns out to be a jester then it is very played by his part

[ga7]

Hola muchachos! I just came back from my dear student Fircoal's funeral, which saddens my heart too deeply to take much part in the day's discussions. In clear I can't vote today and was limited to 3 posts, but fortunately that restriction won't be too hard to cope with
I'm claiming now for a couple of personal reasons but also to help clear up a few things, as the death scene of Fircoal was not telling much about how his role actually worked. He indeed could protect two people, but if one of them was scum both he and his other protect would die right away. That's why I'm pretty sure there must be another classic doc out there, as useful as the two protect thing can be there was quite a high risk especially night 1.

I recruited as my student Fircoal night 1, where he decided to protect Herk and myself. This is why we were so adamant to defend Herk day 2 as we knew he couldn't possibly be scum. I guess the results could have been skewed by the mafia busdriver but seeing as Naxus did see Fir visit Herk I think it's safe to assume he's really clear. He did the same protects night 2 btw.

Now, to tell the truth I was planning to receive applications today but I guess it's now a lost cause. I'll try to get another townie seeing how things are going

This Pablo Sanchez Garcia IV sounds real cool. He mentors people Wonder if he's town/scum/3rd party.

Actually 3rd party survivor. It's quite a weird role and not tremendously useful, but it also has no adverse consequences. I basically mason up with someone "taking a student", I can only have one student at any time, and if they die I lose my vote + PR for the day. It doesn't change their alignment or anything for them. So when I recruited Fir I figured I'd just try to give a hand to town, especially since Fir was covering my back
Anyway I'm obviously claiming to help my survival but I thought it important to point out there must be still a doc out there, so scum don't feel too trigger happy. And while we wait for the lynch scene I'm still taking applications

[pmchugh]

unvote vote ga7

[Iliad]

unvote vote ga7

[Jace22]

uh, why? and the day's over basically. Just waiting for the end scene

[Victor Sullivan]

unvote vote me I be damned if anyone kills me but me.

ok im having second thoughts about this, what if he cleared me as town for scum to NK mmmhh well if i get NK tonight i want to let everyone know that last night i got visited by tailgunner, so it might be worth the shot to investigate him, since he might be the scum roleblocker or cop (yes scum cop does exist).

Victor before you die, can you tell me your role pwetty pwease? you seem quite overpowered being able to investigate AND poison, so i am very curious, grant a dying girl wish, wont you dear?

I'm Esther Baum (I think - not sure if I got the last name right - I did in fact lose my role PM). Like I said before, I can poison someone - an unblockable kill and investigate when I don't make the kill. My mafia thought it would be good to lay low the first night with minimal killing then bring down the hammer Night 2.

-Esther

[ga7]

I can imagine the scum convo:
"-Dude we got NK powas! Let's kill something!
-No man just chill, we don't want to be too active in the night! We might kill too much people LOL
-Aww no fun, ok but night 2 we make an extra nice killing then!"
Totally makes sense

[spiesr]

unvote vote ga7

uh, why?

Indeed why? We like explanations around these parts.

unvote vote me I be damned if anyone kills me but me.
I'm Esther Baum (I think - not sure if I got the last name right - I did in fact lose my role PM). Like I said before, I can poison someone - an unblockable kill and investigate when I don't make the kill. My mafia thought it would be good to lay low the first night with minimal killing then bring down the hammer Night 2.

Shouldn't you go be dying or something?

[Victor Sullivan]

:lol: I can imagine the scum convo:
"-Dude we got NK powas! Let's kill something!
-No man just chill, we don't want to be too active in the night! We might kill too much people LOL
-Aww no fun, ok but night 2 we make an extra nice killing then!"
Totally makes sense

Yep!

[nagerous]

:lol: I can imagine the scum convo:
"-Dude we got NK powas! Let's kill something!
-No man just chill, we don't want to be too active in the night! We might kill too much people LOL
-Aww no fun, ok but night 2 we make an extra nice killing then!"
Totally makes sense

Well we now know his final partner is an absolute moron so guess that wipes out a few of us.

[strike wolf]

It kind of contradicts itself too. He claims his group killed freezie while the scene strongly indicates that it was actually a pgo. The poisoner traditionally is a delayed kill. That being said if he is telling the truth about being allied with blake and another mysterious kille in his group that makes 3 killing roles an unblockable poisoner (with supposed investigative abilities) an untrackable killer and another killing role...yeah right that's ridiculously overpowered considering there's two mafia groups. Lying to the very end you scummy bastard. If there are two mafia groups than it would stand to reason that the mafia groups would be balabnced so if your group has 3 killing roles (of which there is no evidence to support as freezie again is most likely a pgo kill) than the other group would have to be strong enough to balance for 3 killing roles in the other mafia. That much power in two mafias even in a 30 player game would look to be a major disadvantage to town. Lying scum bastard.

[Victor Sullivan]

It kind of contradicts itself too. He claims his group killed freezie while the scene strongly indicates that it was actually a pgo. The poisoner traditionally is a delayed kill. That being said if he is telling the truth about being allied with blake and another mysterious kille in his group that makes 3 killing roles an unblockable poisoner (with supposed investigative abilities) an untrackable killer and another killing role...yeah right that's ridiculously overpowered considering there's two mafia groups. Lying to the very end you scummy bastard. If there are two mafia groups than it would stand to reason that the mafia groups would be balabnced so if your group has 3 killing roles (of which there is no evidence to support as freezie again is most likely a pgo kill) than the other group would have to be strong enough to balance for 3 killing roles in the other mafia. That much power in two mafias even in a 30 player game would look to be a major disadvantage to town. Lying scum bastard.

strike, dude, only one in our faction can make the kill a night. And with two mafia factions, we're trying to kill each other as well as the town. Seems pretty balanced to me. You guys have got the numbers and your own special abilities. Remember herk's supposed group?

[Iliad]

oh doc.

Some help would be appreciated...

Any doctors please disregard this message.

Touché. I admit I played that poorly. Might as well leak some things I know:
1. There are 2 mafia factions, freezie wasn't apart of mine but blakebowling was.
2. I am the poisoner. I performed my poison kill on Fircoal Night 1. The only other person left in my faction killed freezie last night.
3. My poison kill is unblockable, and if I don't make the kill for my mafia, I can investigate someone's alignment. I investigated Flores and got innocent... I've only done one investigation, obviously, so who knows? I could be insane or something.

Any more stuff you'd like to know before you lynch me? (I will not rat out my partner in crime, though )

-Esther

Ah typical scum behaviour. lying through the teeth to the end. Firstly you didn't kill freezie, that was clearly a pgo.
Secondly you just contradicted yourself by saying you did poison fircoal night 1 by then saying you didn't do anything night 1 and killed later. It's obvious that your poison is delayed and it seems someone else is going to die this night from your poison and you're trying to sow some seeds of confusion before oyu go. That seems to also explain the random flores mention.