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Re: San Francisco Mafia- DAY 2 BEGINS!

Postby edocsil on Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:48 pm

karelpietertje wrote:I did read your post, forgot to add however that because the answer to your question is yes, there is a big difference between your case and flows.
If Flow is wrong, we cannot kill him because he might just have been a bit paranoid but still town. In this case however, I'm confident dazerazer is a cop.

Since she hasn't said it herself yet, I'll probably unvote for now to acknowledge your criticism and hopefully calm you down. If dazerazer confirms my suspicion however, I hope people agree with me and join me in voting you out.



:oops: I said flow, I meant Daze.... would explain a bit of the confusion.
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Re: San Francisco Mafia- DAY 2 BEGINS!

Postby sensfan on Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:02 pm

NO! Don't kill Victor, I tell ya! Dazey's is in love with Victor because I selected them. I'm Cupid, and i need Victor and Dazey to be alive! This may sound like I'm protecting scum, and it may be because I chose anybody.

Please don't kill Victor or Dazey. Nuff said.

Vote Flow

Jumping on the bandwagon cause Victor is in trouble, and that means I am.
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Re: San Francisco Mafia- DAY 2 BEGINS!

Postby aage on Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:18 pm

karelpietertje wrote:
edocsil wrote:And UNVOTE VOTE karelpietertje, You should know that it is just as likely that flow is a paranoid townie as she is scum. If I were lynched and I came up innocent, you would lynch her because she was wrong?

Yup. (Nice OMGUS vote bytheway)
Look, it might be unfair to use your life on this gamble, but you do realize it's the best for town now? If you are town, it's better to have you AND a mafia killed than both alive. You'll still win if town wins, so consider it a necessary sacrifice in your own best interest if your town.

My vote is on you because I am certain that the reason dazerazer wants you dead is because she investigated you and got you as guilty/escaped prisoner. This is a little bit of meta-gaming, as I know that she still has an honesty about her posting that little other people have. I do need dazerazer's 'Yes' on her having investigated Sully and you (which I believe she would've done, considering her FoS on you Day 1) though before we proceed.

If she doesn't, I'll unvote, and gladly put my vote back on Victor.

Erm, Daze didn't investigate anyone... She just believes Victor is the guy for her, and that's all. Inconclusive as hell. The fact that we would lose three third party players if we lynch Victor really doesn't bother me... Especially since Victor

sensfan wrote:Vote Flow

Jumping on the bandwagon cause Victor is in trouble, and that means I am.

Yeah, let's go do something scummy because Victor is in danger of getting killed!

edoc wrote:Perhaps an actual case rather then a random accusation?
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karelpietertje wrote:In reaction to the post above, I'd rather have Flow be investigated instead of Victor.

The point is, the guys on the wagon think Flow is the godfather and will turn up as town. So I don't think they'll agree. I do, but I'm not the guy you're trying to convince. :P
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Re: San Francisco Mafia- DAY 2 BEGINS!

Postby aage on Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:19 pm

aage wrote:Erm, Daze didn't investigate anyone... She just believes Victor is the guy for her, and that's all. Inconclusive as hell. The fact that we would lose three third party players if we lynch Victor really doesn't bother me... Especially since Victor has been the scummiest scumster around.

Lol, a part of my post went missing :P
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Re: San Francisco Mafia- DAY 2 BEGINS!

Postby karelpietertje on Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:48 pm

sensfan, it is interesting to me how you want Dazey to live, but don't respond to her emotional call for lynching edocsil.
victor is not in direct danger of being lynched, you are really just bandwagonning.
I'm starting to dislike the whole cupid thing, youguys just aren't congruent.
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Re: San Francisco Mafia- DAY 2 BEGINS!

Postby kernov on Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:17 pm

sensfan wrote:NO! Don't kill Victor, I tell ya! Dazey's is in love with Victor because I selected them. I'm Cupid, and i need Victor and Dazey to be alive! This may sound like I'm protecting scum, and it may be because I chose anybody.

Please don't kill Victor or Dazey. Nuff said.

Vote Flow

Jumping on the bandwagon cause Victor is in trouble, and that means I am.

Nice role claim Sensfan? :lol:

Infact you didnt even need to mention Daisy and victor at all and certainly in making up a fake role claim. Just a vote for flow would have tipped the balance the way you wanted it.

As a cupid role you dont lose if you lose 1 of your chosen lovers, So why come in and role claim so easily.

Now if i was cupid

1, i wouldn say who i chose as lovers so easily.

2.and i wouldn role claim as easily as you just did, there was no need.


As i KNOW sensfan is lying and even tho i been voting flow for ages sensfan,daisy and victor have become scummy as hell to me. I should now change my vote to sensfan because i Know he is scum, but asking everyone to change to him for the lynch is just to much at the moment. So Unvote, Vote Victor and when he goes it will hopefully prove im right about Sensfan.
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Re: San Francisco Mafia- DAY 2 BEGINS!

Postby sensfan on Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:23 pm

haha. ok, lynch me if you want, but kernov, oh are you screwed!

I've realised maybe i wasnt playing my role well. But tis the truth. KErnov, you are a bad omen. I always get lynched with you around. haha
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Re: San Francisco Mafia- Day 2 Begins!!!!!

Postby VioIet on Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:49 am

Vote Count

Victor (5): drabod, aage, lildan, fircoal, kernov
Flow (6): commander9, mass miracle, gabriel, judah, victor, sens,
Edocsil(1): dazey
karel (1)- edocsil

With 16 alive it takes 8 to lynch


nonvotes: karel, lsu, aage
Bruceswar: I have big news coming out soonish
Violet: oh, what big news?
Bruceswar: I am leaving KORT to go to RA


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Re: San Francisco Mafia- Day 2 Begins!!!!!

Postby aage on Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:11 am

VioIet wrote:Vote Count

Victor (5): drabod, aage, lildan, fircoal, kernov
nonvotes: karel, lsu, aage

This was also in your previous post and it confuses me :P


sens wrote:but kernov, oh are you screwed!

Why is that? AFAIK kernov is not one of the lovers... Daze and Victor are the lovers. Why is kernov screwed?

kernov wrote:Now if i was cupid

1, i wouldn say who i chose as lovers so easily.

2.and i wouldn role claim as easily as you just did, there was no need.

1. the lovers already outed themselves
2. it made the believe that vic and daze were lovers stronger but it didn't "help" them imo :P
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Re: San Francisco Mafia- DAY 2 BEGINS!

Postby kernov on Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:31 am

Im Cupid.

The lovers havent outed themselves.

Seems like a faction is telling porkies.
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Re: San Francisco Mafia- DAY 2 BEGINS!

Postby aage on Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:33 am

Wait, you're counterclaiming Sensfan?
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Re: San Francisco Mafia- DAY 2 BEGINS!

Postby kernov on Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:37 am

Yes i am Aage.

Unless there are 2 cupids which i cant see.

I have nothing to win but lots to loose role claiming myself , but i just couldn sit back and watch sensfan try to protect himself with my role.
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Re: San Francisco Mafia- DAY 2 BEGINS!

Postby kernov on Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:48 am

Heres what i have to back my claim up

dazerazer wrote:Nooooooooooo!!! Stop people!!!!
Why don't ya'll be listenin!! Man!!
You can't vote Victor. We in love!!! You just can't!!

Even though Victor be looking just like the zodiac killer, he really aint. It was just a joke!!
Stop votin him cuz he aint the mob!!!
I know cupid aint votin for Victor, I hope cuz that would be stoopid.
See why the hell ya'll gotta go and vote Victor and be sayin more things to the mob
Its EDOC!!!!!

EDOC!!!!!

He the mob!!! How many times I gots to be sayin...

PEOPLE UNVOTE NOW!!!!

And then vote Edoc!!


Now i posted this after Daze post BUT before Sensfan Chirped up with his false claim,

kernov wrote:Dont be insecure ppl and dont takin in by all this pink.

Daze might be right about Edoc but if she is its the only thing truthful in her last post. So i cant agree.

We where all doing ok ish on the voting lets not get waylaid now.



The important thing about my post was i was trying to tell ya all Daze was having us on without role claiming myself.

The 2 lovers are still alive and dont know who they are. only i know.
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Re: San Francisco Mafia- DAY 2 BEGINS!

Postby karelpietertje on Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:20 am

how do they know about there being a cupid in the game though?
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Re: San Francisco Mafia- DAY 2 BEGINS!

Postby edocsil on Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:37 am

kernov wrote:Heres what i have to back my claim up

dazerazer wrote:Nooooooooooo!!! Stop people!!!!
Why don't ya'll be listenin!! Man!!
You can't vote Victor. We in love!!! You just can't!!

Even though Victor be looking just like the zodiac killer, he really aint. It was just a joke!!
Stop votin him cuz he aint the mob!!!
I know cupid aint votin for Victor, I hope cuz that would be stoopid.
See why the hell ya'll gotta go and vote Victor and be sayin more things to the mob
Its EDOC!!!!!

EDOC!!!!!

He the mob!!! How many times I gots to be sayin...

PEOPLE UNVOTE NOW!!!!

And then vote Edoc!!


Now i posted this after Daze post BUT before Sensfan Chirped up with his false claim,

kernov wrote:Dont be insecure ppl and dont takin in by all this pink.

Daze might be right about Edoc but if she is its the only thing truthful in her last post. So i cant agree.

We where all doing ok ish on the voting lets not get waylaid now.



The important thing about my post was i was trying to tell ya all Daze was having us on without role claiming myself.

The 2 lovers are still alive and dont know who they are. only i know.


Enough for me. IF there were 2 cupids in the game their mechanism would likely work the same way. You have claimed otherwise so its LaL. Vote Sensfan
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Re: San Francisco Mafia- DAY 2 BEGINS!

Postby kernov on Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:44 am

karelpietertje wrote:how do they know about there being a cupid in the game though?



I dont think they did. It was just unlucky that there actually was a cupid and who was willing to speak up.

The question is in my mind are Sensfan daze and vicor in it together? or has sensfan just jumped on Daze idea and claimed he cupid.

One of them has to go! now its up to us who.
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Re: San Francisco Mafia- DAY 2 BEGINS!

Postby Commander9 on Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:49 pm

Well, I guess this changes the best lynch option.

Vote sensfan.
But... It was so artistically done.
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Re: San Francisco Mafia- DAY 2 BEGINS!

Postby aage on Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:51 pm

kernov wrote:
karelpietertje wrote:how do they know about there being a cupid in the game though?



I dont think they did. It was just unlucky that there actually was a cupid and who was willing to speak up.

The question is in my mind are Sensfan daze and vicor in it together? or has sensfan just jumped on Daze idea and claimed he cupid.

One of them has to go! now its up to us who.

Cupids were in the original version of the game. VioIet first started this game with all the roles in the first post. After some comments they were removed and changed.

Still, I'd like to point out as well that my explanation for night 0 was that there was a lover mechanism.


Still, why vote Sensfan? Does killing him "cure" the lovers?
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Re: San Francisco Mafia- DAY 2 BEGINS!

Postby edocsil on Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:09 pm

aage wrote:
kernov wrote:
karelpietertje wrote:how do they know about there being a cupid in the game though?



I dont think they did. It was just unlucky that there actually was a cupid and who was willing to speak up.

The question is in my mind are Sensfan daze and vicor in it together? or has sensfan just jumped on Daze idea and claimed he cupid.

One of them has to go! now its up to us who.

Cupids were in the original version of the game. VioIet first started this game with all the roles in the first post. After some comments they were removed and changed.

Still, I'd like to point out as well that my explanation for night 0 was that there was a lover mechanism.


Still, why vote Sensfan? Does killing him "cure" the lovers?


We vote for him because it is likely he lied? And no cupid's death wouldn't cure.
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Re: San Francisco Mafia- DAY 2 BEGINS!

Postby Commander9 on Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:16 pm

aage wrote:Cupids were in the original version of the game. VioIet first started this game with all the roles in the first post. After some comments they were removed and changed.

Still, I'd like to point out as well that my explanation for night 0 was that there was a lover mechanism.


Still, why vote Sensfan? Does killing him "cure" the lovers?


Someone's skimming? :o :P

I voted sensfan because he lied about being Cupid. However, I do think that the trio should have a chance of explaining this before we lynch.
But... It was so artistically done.
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Re: San Francisco Mafia- DAY 2 BEGINS!

Postby kernov on Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:38 pm

Well for fake claiming and also saying im 'screwed' sorry dude but Unvote, vote Sensfan you bought this on yourself.
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Re: San Francisco Mafia- DAY 2 BEGINS!

Postby kernov on Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:58 pm

Commander9 wrote:
aage wrote:Cupids were in the original version of the game. VioIet first started this game with all the roles in the first post. After some comments they were removed and changed.

Still, I'd like to point out as well that my explanation for night 0 was that there was a lover mechanism.


Still, why vote Sensfan? Does killing him "cure" the lovers?


Someone's skimming? :o :P

I voted sensfan because he lied about being Cupid. However, I do think that the trio should have a chance of explaining this before we lynch.




Yes Aage was right i did have a night 0 action. I picked 2 lovers and as long as they are alive im immortal. If one dies i become town.

Also have we actually got a 'trio' here? or just some opportunists?
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Re: San Francisco Mafia- DAY 2 BEGINS!

Postby aage on Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:36 pm

Commander9 wrote:
aage wrote:Cupids were in the original version of the game. VioIet first started this game with all the roles in the first post. After some comments they were removed and changed.

Still, I'd like to point out as well that my explanation for night 0 was that there was a lover mechanism.


Still, why vote Sensfan? Does killing him "cure" the lovers?


Someone's skimming? :o :P

I voted sensfan because he lied about being Cupid. However, I do think that the trio should have a chance of explaining this before we lynch.

No, not skimming, but I haven't ruled the possibility of 2 cupids out. I remember reading something about it in this game.

If that's true the thing Kernov brings up would make lynching Sensfan pretty futile, but then again that would be a pretty good test. If he lives he's a cupid too and we move on to kill Victor. If he doesn't, he was lying (as we are assuming but of which I'm not totally convinced yet) and there's Daze and Victor to be looked into.


Still, don't you find it odd that the three of them claimed lover and cupid all over sudden? The only other explanation besides that being the truth is that they are seriously noobish scummies, and I highly doubt that.
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Re: San Francisco Mafia- DAY 2 BEGINS!

Postby Commander9 on Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:46 pm

aage wrote:No, not skimming, but I haven't ruled the possibility of 2 cupids out. I remember reading something about it in this game.

If that's true the thing Kernov brings up would make lynching Sensfan pretty futile, but then again that would be a pretty good test. If he lives he's a cupid too and we move on to kill Victor. If he doesn't, he was lying (as we are assuming but of which I'm not totally convinced yet) and there's Daze and Victor to be looked into.


Still, don't you find it odd that the three of them claimed lover and cupid all over sudden? The only other explanation besides that being the truth is that they are seriously noobish scummies, and I highly doubt that.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think all 3 claimed. Furthermore, as you've said, I think it gives us the most information and at least as of now, I see this as being the best lynch.
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Re: San Francisco Mafia- DAY 2 BEGINS!

Postby kernov on Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:51 pm

If that is the case why would daze and victor know they are lovers? As ive stated i picked 2 lovers on night 0 and they dont know who they are.

If i say who i picked and posted it i would lose immortality if one died so im not saying.

I also agree with commander im not actually sure victor has claimed to be a lover, I still think Sensfan jumped on a fake claim to early.
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