BREAKING NEWS: ARIZONA CONGRESS WOMAN SHOT IN HEAD!

[Aradhus]

What about Byron Williams? He said his batshit was directed towards an organisation that glenn beck was demonising.

But even Byron Williams said that Beck wasn't advocating violence.

He also said Beck would never say anything about a conspiracy, ..

This guy tooks Becks lies as gospel, he gave him all the evidence that was needed that action had to be taken. I don't need to advocate, to incite.

[Phatscotty]

I will be highly tempted to merge the two threads PhatScotty...

it's unrelated

you can try

[Ray Rider]

I apologize if this was discussed already but there was an armed civilian on the scene of the shooting who helped subdue the killer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUmmOWL05r8&feature=player_embedded

[saxitoxin]

What about Byron Williams? He said his batshit was directed towards an organisation that glenn beck was demonising.

But even Byron Williams said that Beck wasn't advocating violence.

He also said Beck would never say anything about a conspiracy, ..

This guy tooks Becks lies as gospel, he gave him all the evidence that was needed that action had to be taken. I don't need to advocate, to incite.

"Becks" [sic] needs to do a better job of inciting if he hopes his listeners to "tooks" [sic] him as seriously as Talksport or El Diario. His body count has some serious catch-up.

[Aradhus]

What about Byron Williams? He said his batshit was directed towards an organisation that glenn beck was demonising.

But even Byron Williams said that Beck wasn't advocating violence.

He also said Beck would never say anything about a conspiracy, ..

This guy tooks Becks lies as gospel, he gave him all the evidence that was needed that action had to be taken. I don't need to advocate, to incite.

"Becks" [sic] needs to do a better job of inciting if he hopes his listeners to "tooks" [sic] him as seriously as Talksport or El Diario. His body count needs some serious catch-up.

Stop criticizing my spelling you infantile. You can be funny and still be civil.

You've posted that chart a dozen times now, and what? What does it prove, how does it validate whichever position you're arguing for?
The rhetoric in all these places has gotten out of hand? Capitals are targets becasue that's where the power comes from, what about events outside of those capitals in those countries? Social political commentators in these countries are as disturbing and divisive as the ones in the Us? You have evidence of this?

What's your claims big guy. and what evidence backs up those claims? Politics in the US is not equivalent to politics in Indonesia. Culture in the Us is not equivalent to culture in Madrid. Political motivations are different, agendas are different, political agendas are differnt, agendas motivated by politics are not interrelated. Not everything is political.

Enhanced interrogation only dishonestly frames the actual actions, and that would be torture. Attributing the word political to events that you've yet to prove were politically motivated isn't any differernt from framing the discussion to benefit your position.

I implore you, quit the one dimensional mind set and apply some critical thinking. Try to reject that prograammed frame of reference that informs your entire perspective, and drives the narrative you desperately negatively reinforce, post after post.

[saxitoxin]

Attributing the word political to events that you've yet to prove were politically motivated ...

indeed

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As portrait of Jared Loughner sharpens, 'vitriol' blame fades
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2 ... lame-fades

But emerging information about primary suspect Jared Loughner suggests that he was motivated not by a climate of hate but rather by his own troubled mind and a personal vendetta against Congresswoman Giffords, who was injured in the attack. Indeed, one piece of evidence collected so far is a 2007 letter from Giffords's office to Mr. Loughner, thanking him for attending a meet-and-greet event. On it is scrawled a death threat to Giffords. In 2007, Sarah Palin was a little-known Alaska governor and the tea party movement did not exist.

In Loughner's case, no reported evidence so far suggests any connection to the ideology or ideologues of the right. A Loughner friend, Zach Osler, told ABC's "Good Morning America" on Wednesday that Loughner "did not watch TV. He disliked the news. He didn’t listen to political radio. He didn’t take sides. He wasn’t on the left. He wasn’t on the right."

[saxitoxin]

Quick Quiz: What city and group does the above image reference? First one to answer correctly gets a prize. (hint: they blew-up 30 people a few years ago and have a bad habit of firing Rocket Propelled Grenades at government office buildings ... without a proper permit/license )

(A) Scottsdale, Arizona / Tea Party
(B) Saguenay, Quebec / Bloc Québécois
(C) London, England / RIRA

[Mr_Adams]

ok, the answer is C

The political debates over this topic are off topic and unfounded, as all his high school class mates described him as "Very left wing" and "Obsessed with the 2012 doomsday prophecy" and his college class mates described him as "apolitical", and said he "didn't watch television or listen to radio", so by all accounts he wasn't radicalized by the conservatives, and more recently even more dissociated with the political scene.

[BigBallinStalin]

Violent games, movies etc have certifications, you know, so young impressionable malleable persons are somewhat protected. They're also fiction. Politics is not.

Good. Put a certification on radio personalities.

Yes..

Why?

Because it can lead to more violence against the government, against government workers. It has more potentionally dangerous consequences than if joe schmoe is murdered. We can be as cynical about politiicians as we like, but at the end of the day, they are putting themselves out there because they want to improve the country, state, district they're representing.

That's a huge assumption and not at all fact.

[spurgistan]

I apologize if this was discussed already but there was an armed civilian on the scene of the shooting who helped subdue the killer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUmmOWL05r8&feature=player_embedded

Right, but no guns were needed or used. The sole contribution guns played in this horribleness was helping kill nine people and almost assassinate a sitting Congresswoman.

[Aradhus]

Violent games, movies etc have certifications, you know, so young impressionable malleable persons are somewhat protected. They're also fiction. Politics is not.

Good. Put a certification on radio personalities.

Yes..

Why?

Because it can lead to more violence against the government, against government workers. It has more potentionally dangerous consequences than if joe schmoe is murdered. We can be as cynical about politiicians as we like, but at the end of the day, they are putting themselves out there because they want to improve the country, state, district they're representing.

That's a huge assumption and not at all fact.

Then the analyzed intention of every single human action cannot be classified as anything more than assumption.

[Phatscotty]

Obama adviser says Obama needs an Oklahoma

[Aradhus]

I heard through the grapevine that an oklahoma adviser said that an obama adviser needs an obama.

I also heard from Obama himself that Oklahoma needs a grapevine adviser to advise Obama on how his advisers are doing on advising oklahoma that they need a grapevine advisor.

And furthermore, an Obama oklahoman advisery team advised that grapevine advising should only be participated in under the guidance that advisers wear visors.

[Phatscotty]

I heard through the grapevine that an oklahoma adviser said that an obama adviser needs an obama.

I also heard from Obama himself that Oklahoma needs a grapevine adviser to advise Obama on how his advisers are doing on advising oklahoma that they need a grapevine advisor.

And furthermore, an Obama oklahoman advisery team advised that grapevine advising should only be participated in under the guidance that advisers wear visors.

why don't you just cut through the bullshit and say "facts I can't bring myself to admit" and ignore it like you do everything else

[saxitoxin]

ok, the answer is C

Correct!

Aradhus thinks the Tea Party is blowing up cars and firing RPGs in central London so you take home the gold.

[GabonX]

Violent games, movies etc have certifications, you know, so young impressionable malleable persons are somewhat protected. They're also fiction. Politics is not.

Good. Put a certification on radio personalities.

Yes..

Why?

Because it can lead to more violence against the government, against government workers. It has more potentionally dangerous consequences than if joe schmoe is murdered. We can be as cynical about politiicians as we like, but at the end of the day, they are putting themselves out there because they want to improve the country, state, district they're representing.

That's a huge assumption and not at all fact.

Then the analyzed intention of every single human action cannot be classified as anything more than assumption.

Actually, what you've said is demonstratively false when phrased in the blanket form you've chosen, and that's not an assumption.

[saxitoxin]

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With words

This is how we predicted it would end.

The thesis proved incorrect he resorts to just spam-flooding the thread ...

Oh well.

Next?

[Aradhus]

Nailed it. I mentioned the tea party multiple times in this topic. In fact that was the main thrust of my argument. It is all the tea partys fault. guilty as charged.

[Aradhus]

Jibber jibber
Jabber jabber
jibber
jabber
jibber
jabber

Words words
many words
Filling up the screen
With words

This is how we predicted it would end.

The thesis proved incorrect he resorts to just spam-flooding the thread ...

Oh well.

Next?

Now that is rich, coming from you.

[saxitoxin]

Nailed it. I mentioned the tea party multiple times in this topic. In fact that was the main thrust of my argument. It is all the tea partys fault. guilty as charged.

apology accepted

[Aradhus]

Do you dislike me, Saxi?

[Aradhus]

Yes..

Why?


Because it can lead to more violence against the government, against government workers. It has more potentionally dangerous consequences than if joe schmoe is murdered. We can be as cynical about politiicians as we like, but at the end of the day, they are putting themselves out there because they want to improve the country, state, district they're representing.

That's a huge assumption and not at all fact.

Then the analyzed intention of every single human action cannot be classified as anything more than assumption.

Actually, what you've said is demonstratively false when phrased in the blanket form you've chosen, and that's not an assumption.

So these politicians are puttng themselves out there because they want to destroy, degrade and ruin the countries, states, districts, etc, that they're representing?

[Phatscotty]

In addition, investigators believe Loughner spent the night at a Motel 6 the evening before the shooting, Nanos said. Authorities would not say how they discovered that information.

Investigators believe Loughner's discussion with his father took place after an Arizona Game and Fish Department officer pulled Loughner over for running a red light, which took place at about 7:30 a.m. Saturday, less than three hours before the shooting.

hmm, I wonder if getting busted for running a red light set him off?

BAN ALL RED LIGHTS!

[Aradhus]

strawman, and not even remotely nuanced.

Our species is partly what it is today because of our ability to communicate. Words matter. People are influenced everyday. Wahhabi muslims are persuaded to commit suicide bombings. Mothers with kids.

All we're asking is that people in the spotlight try to be responsible. Try to not pull out their victim card when their rhetoric is criticized, and accept that words have consequences. Is that such a big deal?

[saxitoxin]

Because it can lead to more violence against the government, against government workers. It has more potentionally dangerous consequences than if joe schmoe is murdered. We can be as cynical about politiicians as we like, but at the end of the day, they are putting themselves out there because they want to improve the country, state, district they're representing.

That's a huge assumption and not at all fact.

Then the analyzed intention of every single human action cannot be classified as anything more than assumption.

Actually, what you've said is demonstratively false when phrased in the blanket form you've chosen, and that's not an assumption.

So these politicians are puttng themselves out there because they want to destroy, degrade and ruin the countries, states, districts, etc, that they're representing?

Translation: There are no Coffee Shops on the Moon so there must be Tea Houses on the Moon.

Do you dislike me, Saxi?

Of course not, bro! Your stumbling and bumbling in this thread; grasping - occasional outbursts of profanity as your vocabulary reaches a limit - followed by ranting chest-thumping novellas spattered with misspelled words and then off-kilter spam-floods of nonsense posts, has made you a bit of a card. I like cards.

You entered a thread fronting a concrete assumption. Now, a few days later, when all evidence points away from that assumption you carry on, stiff upper lip, chin held high, refusing to give in even as the handful of others who entered with you have thrown in the towel and faded into the shadows to save face. That's a can-do spirit. I like that, too.

These are the reasons why you're on my friends list.

edit: added "bro"