safariguy5 wrote:edocsil wrote:Commander9 wrote:Now, this last part was something different. Saf, I wasn't suggesting no lynch - I'd rather wanted to pressure Nag (and still do), but if shield continues on this path, he will not last long.
Certainly not. one more slip up on his part and I'm going to do a 180.
Yeah, I wasn't saying that you were suggesting a no lynch by defending him Com9, I
was trying to show shield how going no lynch because you have no information is not the correct line of thinking, especially day 1.
Mighty interesting. I already had my suspicions on edoc, albeit brushed away for the moment. This is just crazy, and I'm not sure what to make of it. Maybe with a deadline and a forced lynch, we might consider a no-lynch.
I don't see any valid reason whatsoever for a no lynch.
safariguy5 wrote:So let's quickly recap what's been going on since the daykill since I'm sensing that we're drifting into talking about what the joker's alignment might be and what roles might be present (and I'm as guilty as anyone).
1. Commander vs. nag
2. A case on edocsil with some mild pressure
3. Sheep brings up fircoal submarining
4. VioIet to present case??
Both of the first two arguments stem from the accusation, defense, and subsequent daykill of shield. Now, I personally will side with nagerous here, but there's enough validity to either side of the noob player treatment that I think it's a push at this point. The problem I see now, as tails brought up a couple pages ago and spiesr and sheep have also alluded to, is that not only are we down a player, we also seem to need to get 7 votes to get a lynch. On top of that, we seem to be deadlocked on principle, with everyone eventually needing to take a stand on whether shield should have been pressured or not.
Depending on how many side with nag and me and how many side with edoc and Commander, we may have difficulty pushing for a lynch as we may not get enough votes depending on how compelling the argument is. In a normal game, a borderline case may get enough people just because it seems to be an acceptable course of action. In this game however, I feel that a good enough minority may not like the course of action laid out by the other side unless it's really compelling because there's a pretty serious disagreement on how the game has run thus far. And I don't think that we're going to get a very compelling case day 1.
The kicker to all this is that mafia may have deliberately split their opinions. This makes any subsequent case on anyone potentially damning if someone they agreed with flips scum. Edoc dodged something of a bullet as shield came up third party, but if someone flips mafia, it could look really bad for whoever was on their side (see Nostalgia).
Therefore, I don't think we're going to get much more out of this day pending Vio bringing up a mindblowingly great case (which is still possible). A lynch at this point I think will be difficult and may not pass.
unvote vote no lynch
So just because it won't be easy to get a lynch, you just give up altogether? What will we do tomorrow? You hope a cop will come forward? Or do you just want the day over with, so you can have your night action?
You are correct when you say opinions are divided between nag and commie. Here you do give us a nice solution by your scummy post, and provide us with a nice lead
I love how it's so wrong for a new player to want a No-Lynch day 1, and how you try to show him how bad it is. Then once he dies, you go on and do it yourself? Double standard much?
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