Americans

by **Darth Lestat** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:15 pm

the story of pornaograpyh is only common sense how long after internet took off did online porn come about inventions have there downside and upside (funny choice of words i know)

by **foolish_yeti** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:15 pm

Darth Lestat wrote:say what you will you say there are factual errors point them out let me see them

ummm...well for one pornography was around well before the invention of the camera

by **Darth Lestat** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:18 pm

true but not in the sense we think of today and those were called orgies and you were aloud to join. strip teases are a different story

by **Guiscard** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:26 pm

1. The British Empire was in no way a dictatorship. Britain has been a constitutional monarchy since the Bill of Rights in 1689, and although this didn't mean a sudden and drastic reduction in the power of the Monarch by the time of the British Empire proper that power had reduced very significantly in favour of a democratically elected government.

2. Look to Athens for the beginnings of democracy. Rome certainly espoused certain characteristics of the idealistic 'democracy' we envisage today, but it was no real development from the Athenian model (and indeed, application on a wider scale decreases true democracy in the sense that it is impossible for everyone to have a say, whereas democracy in a polis is more, though not entirely, representative).

3. Piracy = revolutions? What? All of this section is nonsensical.

4. America certainly didn't create the middle class. The significant development of a middle class is a widely debated topic among scholars (believe me, I've done a fair bit of research for university studies on this), but the Industrial Revolution is generally credited with cementing the middle class into the class structure of most European countries.

5. American intentions are far from noble. There must be a vested interest. A test case for this was Somalia. If you've ever seen the movie Black Hawk Down you'll know what I mean. This was probably the sole case of American intervention solely for moral means, and the American people reacted so vehemently after US casualties that Clinton withdrew his troops. EVERY other case of intervention has a motive which has America's best interests at heart, whether or not they have a moral excuse as well.

by **Guiscard** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:28 pm

Darth Lestat wrote:true but not in the sense we think of today and those were called orgies and you were aloud to join. strip teases are a different story

What the hell are you on about?

Pornography, i.e. the graphical or literal representation of sex, has been around forever. There are 'pornographic' cave paintings, the ancient Greeks painted pornographic pottery, there have been woodcuts, paintings etc. etc. all before the invention of mass printing.

by **foolish_yeti** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:28 pm

Darth Lestat wrote:true but not in the sense we think of today and those were called orgies and you were aloud to join. strip teases are a different story

Not sure what you mean with "not in the sense we think of today". One example would be Pietro Aretino's "Postures" (1524)....porn with poetry. Technology has changed porn, in this case it was the printing press...but even then it was nothing new. You think modern man was the only one interested in sex?

by **Darth Lestat** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:41 pm

very well i will accept my critisicms but as you said you have done research in Universities i am just out of Highschool but htats niether here nor there the pirates bit is well obviously i love pirates (just had to put it in there) and the good intentions was from the view of an American naturally i would say they are good intentions.but anyway points taken i accept them and now know more then when i posted thank you.

by **Darth Lestat** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:42 pm

oh yes Athens did have Democracy but they were more or less a Republic not just athens Greece. and i will admit my pornographic knowledge is not as vast and deep as yours apparently point taken. but the moron who started this post was specifically stateing internet porn.

by **Darth Lestat** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:45 pm

foolish_yeti wrote:
Darth Lestat wrote:true but not in the sense we think of today and those were called orgies and you were aloud to join. strip teases are a different story

Not sure what you mean with "not in the sense we think of today". One example would be Pietro Aretino's "Postures" (1524)....porn with poetry. Technology has changed porn, in this case it was the printing press...but even then it was nothing new. You think modern man was the only one interested in sex?

when you here porn you think of internet

by **Guiscard** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:52 pm

Darth Lestat wrote:oh yes Athens did have Democracy but they were more or less a Republic not just athens Greece.

Well done for accepting criticism well. Again, however, you're wrong. Ancient Greece was never a united nation as we think of it today. It was, however, made up of numerous city states or Polis with differing amounts of power who were intertwined through alliances, trade, wars and religion. There were many different political ideologies present. The republic in the platonic sense (espoused in Plato's 'The Republic') was developed too late to have a drastic effect on Athenian politics, and I believe when some of Plato's political ideas were put into practice in Syracuse they weren't met with approval.

by **Darth Lestat** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:03 pm

well if you dont make me feel ignorant noone well. i am being serious when i thank you ........you are teaching me. i appreciate this i only wish i had my facts strieght.

by **Guiscard** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:14 pm

No problem. Would be nice if everyone accepted when they're misinformed about something

by **Darth Lestat** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:19 pm

in a world of stupidity one should be aware that the stupid ones sometimes teach them. clearly that was the case agian thank you for correcting me i hate to look stupid.

by **codeblue1018** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:31 pm

I love when people from THIRD world countries bash the BEST country in the world, yes the USA! It makes me happy to view the jelous comments. Oh yea, you have loads of cash and live on an island. My bad!

by **Darth Lestat** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:51 pm

codeblue1018 wrote:I love when people from THIRD world countries bash the BEST country in the world, yes the USA! It makes me happy to view the jelous comments. Oh yea, you have loads of cash and live on an island. My bad!

The US is far from the best country in the world maybe the most powerful but a 60 year cold war which we were lucky enough to win did that not to mention aid of our allies but its stupid comments such as the one you just made is what makes me anti american i think its sad when you have your own citizens being Anti national

by **codeblue1018** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:02 pm

"Maybe the most powerful" THE most powerful. What I can't stand is the comment you just made. I would do anything for anyone, regardless of ethnicity, culture and race. The problem I have is we, THE UNITED STATES render aid to EVERYONE and people that recieve the aid burn AMERICAN flags. If it wasn't for the friendly USA, people from around the world would be in dire straits. So listen pal, you may have had bad encounters with americans, but let me say this, most are good dignified souls. REMEMBER that when you trash people who take care of YOU!

by **unriggable** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:02 pm

codeblue1018 wrote:I love when people from THIRD world countries bash the BEST country in the world, yes the USA! It makes me happy to view the jelous comments. Oh yea, you have loads of cash and live on an island. My bad!

It's happy to see that the best country in the world, which when I have the money I will move away from, is staggering in education levels, which is essentially directing the future state of the country.

by **juggernaut17** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:09 pm

unriggable wrote:It's happy to see that the best country in the world, which when I have the money I will move away from, is staggering in education levels, which is essentially directing the future state of the country.

Dare to elaborate?

by **codeblue1018** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:17 pm

It's happy to see that the best country in the world, which when I have the money I will move away from, is staggering in education levels, which is essentially directing the future state of the country.[/quote]

Then move! Enough said. We as Americans, do not want people here who don't want to be. They're are plents, I mean plenty standing in line to becoem citizens.

by **Darth Lestat** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:20 pm

codeblue1018 wrote:"Maybe the most powerful" THE most powerful. What I can't stand is the comment you just made. I would do anything for anyone, regardless of ethnicity, culture and race. The problem I have is we, THE UNITED STATES render aid to EVERYONE and people that recieve the aid burn AMERICAN flags. If it wasn't for the friendly USA, people from around the world would be in dire straits. So listen pal, you may have had bad encounters with americans, but let me say this, most are good dignified souls. REMEMBER that when you trash people who take care of YOU!

i didnt trash anyone in fact i stated that i was american its our leaders that make me anti american its the collective intellegence of a Nation that put bush in office not once but twice. and the list goes on.

by **Darth Lestat** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:27 pm

ohhhhhhhhhh all seriousness aside
America...
America...
America, f*ck YEAH!
Coming again, to save the mother fucking day yeah,
America, f*ck YEAH!
Freedom is the only way yeah,
Terrorist your game is through cause now you have to answer too,
America, f*ck YEAH!
So lick my butt, and suck on my balls,
America, f*ck YEAH!
What you going to do when we come for you now,
it’s the dream that we all share; it’s the hope for tomorrow

f*ck YEAH!

McDonalds, f*ck YEAH!
Wal-Mart, f*ck YEAH!
The Gap, f*ck YEAH!
Baseball, f*ck YEAH!
NFL, f*ck, YEAH!
Rock and roll, f*ck YEAH!
The Internet, f*ck YEAH!
Slavery, f*ck YEAH!

f*ck YEAH!

Starbucks, f*ck YEAH!
Disney world, f*ck YEAH!
Porno, f*ck YEAH!
Valium, f*ck YEAH!
Reeboks, f*ck YEAH!
Fake Tits, f*ck YEAH!
Sushi, f*ck YEAH!
Taco Bell, f*ck YEAH!
Rodeos, f*ck YEAH!
Bed bath and beyond (f*ck yeah, f*ck yeah)

Liberty, f*ck YEAH!
White Slips, f*ck YEAH!
The Alamo, f*ck YEAH!
Band-aids, f*ck YEAH!
Las Vegas, f*ck YEAH!
Christmas, f*ck YEAH!
Immigrants, f*ck YEAH!
Popeye, f*ck YEAH!
Democrats, f*ck YEAH!
Republicans (republicans)
(f*ck yeah, f*ck yeah)
Sportsmanship
Books

by **Darth Lestat** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:28 pm

thats comic relief

by **unriggable** on Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:43 pm

juggernaut17 wrote:
unriggable wrote:It's happy to see that the best country in the world, which when I have the money I will move away from, is staggering in education levels, which is essentially directing the future state of the country.

Dare to elaborate?

Since the budget for education is being cut to make way for more elaborate military designs, kids are no longer learning about how the US goverment but more importantly how the tax process works. So to them tax is nothing more than money you HAVE to pay. No idea where it goes. In the future, even now, there are efforts to push flat tax because these guys have no idea how the current system works (or they're rich pricks who like their money so much they feel the urge to wrap it around their dick and beat themselves with it) or to lower taxes. Thus the education budget once again gets lowered, and the children have no idea what to learn.

Why the f*ck are we still teaching intelligent design?

by **Wind Warrior** on Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:27 am

Wow and I thought that American education systems were getting better oh well at least i live in Canada. One question how many Americans on this thread are obese?