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I can not make a small, a large and XML each time!!!cairnswk wrote:ISN2, you re in final forge.
You must present a large and small map, and the xml with centering.
Is everyone awake on your side?
Posted 21 Julsannemanrobinson wrote:The ticket and postcard are nice to make it a more tourist feel. Some remarks to make it even more pleasing:
- The pen writing at the Hagia Sophia postcard doesn't add anything in my taste. A note of where it is located (mollafenari) brings the map more alive.
- Could the bonus legend become some kind of checklist that you have visited? Like seen that done that. Then the pen has some connection with the legend and the map.
- An other idea to make a legend could be a postcard for every bonus area with a corresponding border colour and bonus name.
- There is a lot of unused space at the bottom. If the legend would move to the top behind the pen, 1/10th could be cropped.
Well ISN2, you last posted an update on Fri 1 Jul. Since then, you haven't answered the above two posts as to if you're going to attend to any of these suggestions, and there definetely isn't an update.ironsij0287 wrote:It's looking really nice. The map overall still appears very neat and pristine though. Not necessarily one that has been used for traveling. I don't know, maybe it needs some creases or map folds. Also a coffee cup stain might add some character to a map that's seen some use.
http://www.brusheezy.com/Brushes/2168-C ... op-Brushes
Fair enough, not everyone will want to do that, but you could make a start and show you are doing something towards getting the map finished.ISN2 wrote:I can not make a small, a large and XML each time!!!cairnswk wrote:ISN2, you re in final forge.
You must present a large and small map, and the xml with centering.
Is everyone awake on your side?
I presented the large map and I need the OK, so I would be able to make the small and XML, this map has supposed to get changed a lot, how can I make each time small and large map + XML? Then Blue guys would come with new ideas ...
If I get an OK for the last release then I will make the Small and XML





The pen is just an object to make it more look like a desk, it adds the feel of "Hey this is a desk!" to the image and I believe adding anything more like notes and etc really makes the image kinda noisy in view ...sannemanrobinson wrote:The ticket and postcard are nice to make it a more tourist feel. Some remarks to make it even more pleasing:
- The pen writing at the Hagia Sophia postcard doesn't add anything in my taste. A note of where it is located (mollafenari) brings the map more alive.
- Could the bonus legend become some kind of checklist that you have visited? Like seen that done that. Then the pen has some connection with the legend and the map.
- An other idea to make a legend could be a postcard for every bonus area with a corresponding border colour and bonus name.
- There is a lot of unused space at the bottom. If the legend would move to the top behind the pen, 1/10th could be cropped.
The fold idea is a real good idea but I tried some and could not make anything out of it, when I used fake fold methods (using light and shadow to make it look like a fold) they didn't get beautiful since in middle of the map there are both dark and light colors covering large areas and a shadow/light fold looks bad and unnatural there. Real folds with transform methods also made the map really bad looking and lowered text qualities a lot since I had to break the map from middle into 2 different angles.ironsij0287 wrote:It's looking really nice. The map overall still appears very neat and pristine though. Not necessarily one that has been used for traveling. I don't know, maybe it needs some creases or map folds. Also a coffee cup stain might add some character to a map that's seen some use.
http://www.brusheezy.com/Brushes/2168-C ... op-Brushes
I really liked some of your points.koontz1973 wrote:ISN2, some things that I have noticed with the map, and you can take it or leave it as you wish but these things have been bugging me...![]()
Bottom map - words are really crisp but the little bit of map that is showing is very blurred.
The pen has an inconsistent light source on it. The top of the pen would show much more of the light source and not have it stop like that.
You have really crisp map and tickets but the postcard looks like it came from a bin.![]()
The sea route from Zeytinlik to Fenerbache goes between the legend now. Can you move it so it goes above it.
You have inconsiistant shading behind the territ names. Some areas are thicker than others.
The light source on the table is not consistent with the maps. You have the maps, ticket and postcard brightly lit but the table seems to be in darkness.
The left side of the map is very jagged on the edge, this is not carried around to all the other sides and does not fit the crispness of the map.
Great work by the way.
I fixed the sea texture. No more 3Dnatty_dread wrote:Good points koontz, all of those should be addressed.
All of these edges are jagged: left side of the top map, all sides of the legend, right side of the bottom map. These need to be fixed.
The sea texture on the main map doesn't quite fit, it looks too 3d when it's supposed to be printed on a 2d map - try a flatter type of texture on it.
I'm not sure but personally I heard Santa Sophia more but looking at Wikipedia it says "Hagia Sophia" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagia_Sophia) and the Turkish name "Ἁγία Σοφία" I got no proper font to write it! So I used this name: "Ayasofya (Sancta Sophia)" as wiki says "Latin: Sancta Sophia/Turkish: Ayasofya".tokle wrote:A couple of minor comments.
Santa Sophia sounds a bit strange to me, would it not be better to use the Greek Ayia Sofia (Aγία Σοφία) or the Turkish Ayasofya?
Secondly, it should be possible to add the special Turkish letters? It looks a bit strange without them.


The font is named "Journal", and any other hand writing fonts that I have, are having same problem, standard windows fonts like Tahoma support those characters but they are not good fonts for a hand wrote text on a postal card.tokle wrote:I've never heard it referred to as Santa Sophia before, but that's probably just me...
It seems strange to me as we're not talking about a saint called Sophia. Sophia here is not a name. The church was dedicated to the holy wisdom of God, sophia being the greek word for wisdom.
Are you sure your font doesn't have the Turkish letters? At least some of them are quite standard.
ü is at U+00FC
ğ is at U+011F
ö is at U+00F6
ş is at U+015F
ç is at U+00E7





I meant the text on the actual map, not the postcard.ISN2 wrote:The font is named "Journal", and any other hand writing fonts that I have, are having same problem, standard windows fonts like Tahoma support those characters but they are not good fonts for a hand wrote text on a postal card.tokle wrote:I've never heard it referred to as Santa Sophia before, but that's probably just me...
It seems strange to me as we're not talking about a saint called Sophia. Sophia here is not a name. The church was dedicated to the holy wisdom of God, sophia being the greek word for wisdom.
Are you sure your font doesn't have the Turkish letters? At least some of them are quite standard.
ü is at U+00FC
ğ is at U+011F
ö is at U+00F6
ş is at U+015F
ç is at U+00E7



MrBenn wrote:Tick tock...

A little traveling around, will make another update in next week.thenobodies80 wrote:MrBenn wrote:Tick tock...
What he said...
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<border>Atasehir</border>
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<border>Zuhtupasa Mh.</border>
<border>Fenerbahce Mh.</border>
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<border>Kadikoy</border>
<border>Zuhtupasa Mh.</border>
<border>Zeytinlik Mh.</border>
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<border>Fenerbahce Mh.</border>
<border>Kadikoy</border>
<border>Fetih Mh.</border>
<border>Unalan Mh.</border>
<border>Uskudar</border>
<border>Ayazma Mh.</border>
<border>Atasehir Ataturk Mh.</border>
<border>Mollafenari Mh.</border>
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<smally>393</smally>
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<name>Ayazma Mh.</name>
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<border>Uskudar</border>
<border>Zuhtupasa Mh.</border>
<border>Kuloglu Mh.</border>
</borders>
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<smally>316</smally>
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<!-- Map By ISN2 -->
</map>
A lot of the placenames are misspelled. Does no-one else than me have a problem with that?tokle wrote:I meant the text on the actual map, not the postcard.ISN2 wrote:The font is named "Journal", and any other hand writing fonts that I have, are having same problem, standard windows fonts like Tahoma support those characters but they are not good fonts for a hand wrote text on a postal card.tokle wrote:Are you sure your font doesn't have the Turkish letters? At least some of them are quite standard.
ü is at U+00FC
ğ is at U+011F
ö is at U+00F6
ş is at U+015F
ç is at U+00E7