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qeee1 wrote:what happened to me?
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:what did my score come out to ?
Scorba wrote:blaw blaw should be in 10th place. No idea what my highest would have been blaw blaw
Many problems exisit in trying to create an accurate list of singles only scores with the current scoring system.
In an effort to create a fair representation, without encouraging anyone to manipulate any scoring system, this list has been revamped with 2 changes....
The 1st problem to be addressed was the accuracy of removing team scores. As pointed out earlier in this thread, the higher the ratio of team games the higher the scoring error can be. The solution to this 1st problem is to limit this list to players who focus on singles games, using 88% minimum single games... or no more than 12% being team games.
The 2nd problem was the method of adjusting the score when someone had poor team scores. As pointed out in this thread, intentional team losses would be calculated as point gains in your singles score. The solution to this 2nd problem is to limit the point adjustment to a zero gain effect for the singles score.
Obviously this is not the perfect way to calculate these scores, but it is the best we can do with what we have to work with. There are many who continue to have their fingers crossed that Lack will improve the situation with regards to score calculations in the coming update. I am one of those people.
Scores have been REDUCED to remove any Positive effect from team games...
Robinette wrote:I now present to you...
Top 10 Highest Singles Players Scores
(without team points)
....................... current score .............. current ............. highest .......
.......................... with NO...................... score................. score .......
........................ team games.............(1st wk of April)........... ever .......
1. Lazaruslong . . . .2732 . . . . . . . . . . . 2886 . . . . . . . . 2886
2. Robinette. . . . . . 2669 . . . . . . . . . . . 2785 . . . . . . . . 3021
3. Kid_A . . . . . . . . .2534 . . . . . . . . . . . 2534 . . . . . . . . 2534?
4. Nuke . . . . . . . . . 2528 . . . . . . . . . . . 2528 . . . . . . . . 3160
5. Cyberdaniel. . . . 2533 . . . . . . . . . . . 2654 . . . . . . . . 3145
6. artur1 . . . . . . . . .2497. . . . . . . . . . . 2531 . . . . . . . . 2531?
7. sully800 . . . . . . .2316 . . . . . . . . . . .2316 . . . . . . . . 2387
8. Goatboy . . . . . . . 2313. . . . . . . . . . . 2340. . . . . . . . .2340?
9. ZawBanjito. . . . . 2221 . . . . . . . . . . .2221. . . . . . . . .2558
10. RL_Orange. . . . 2094. . . . . . . . . . .2094. . . . . . . . . 3088
Blaw blaw blaw
Scorba wrote:This is how your post looked to me (and I imagine Johnny and Qeee too):Robinette wrote:I now present to you...
Top 10 Highest Singles Players Scores
(without team points)
....................... current score .............. current ............. highest .......
.......................... with NO...................... score................. score .......
........................ team games.............(1st wk of April)........... ever .......
1. Lazaruslong . . . .2732 . . . . . . . . . . . 2886 . . . . . . . . 2886
2. Robinette. . . . . . 2669 . . . . . . . . . . . 2785 . . . . . . . . 3021
3. Kid_A . . . . . . . . .2534 . . . . . . . . . . . 2534 . . . . . . . . 2534?
4. Nuke . . . . . . . . . 2528 . . . . . . . . . . . 2528 . . . . . . . . 3160
5. Cyberdaniel. . . . 2533 . . . . . . . . . . . 2654 . . . . . . . . 3145
6. artur1 . . . . . . . . .2497. . . . . . . . . . . 2531 . . . . . . . . 2531?
7. sully800 . . . . . . .2316 . . . . . . . . . . .2316 . . . . . . . . 2387
8. Goatboy . . . . . . . 2313. . . . . . . . . . . 2340. . . . . . . . .2340?
9. ZawBanjito. . . . . 2221 . . . . . . . . . . .2221. . . . . . . . .2558
10. RL_Orange. . . . 2094. . . . . . . . . . .2094. . . . . . . . . 3088
Blaw blaw blaw
Robinette wrote:Have to keep writing so this will look like vauge underlining
Robinette wrote:qeee1 wrote:what happened to me?JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:what did my score come out to ?Scorba wrote:blaw blaw should be in 10th place. No idea what my highest would have been blaw blaw
Okay guys...
All you have to do is read the post completely !!
And there was not even ANY fine print! Have to keep writing so this will look like vauge underliningMany problems exisit in trying to create an accurate list of singles only scores with the current scoring system.
In an effort to create a fair representation, without encouraging anyone to manipulate any scoring system, this list has been revamped with 2 changes....
The 1st problem to be addressed was the accuracy of removing team scores. As pointed out earlier in this thread, the higher the ratio of team games the higher the scoring error can be. The solution to this 1st problem is to limit this list to players who focus on singles games, using 88% minimum single games... or no more than 12% being team games.
The 2nd problem was the method of adjusting the score when someone had poor team scores. As pointed out in this thread, intentional team losses would be calculated as point gains in your singles score. The solution to this 2nd problem is to limit the point adjustment to a zero gain effect for the singles score.
Obviously this is not the perfect way to calculate these scores, but it is the best we can do with what we have to work with. There are many who continue to have their fingers crossed that Lack will improve the situation with regards to score calculations in the coming update. I am one of those people.
Scores have been REDUCED to remove any Positive effect from team games...
AK_iceman wrote:When are you going to make "Top 10 Highest Scores (without Standard Points)"?
Robinette wrote:AK_iceman wrote:When are you going to make "Top 10 Highest Scores (without Standard Points)"?
Well that is just too easy... I simply took the scoreboard, and removed LazarusLong and AndrewB (they have both scored too many points in singles games to be on this list)...
0 AAFitz 5150 647a
1 Blitzaholic 3450 1448 General
2 Jork 3290 529 General
3 Stronger 3239 773 General
4 osujacket 3171 1189 General
5 deleted
6 steelplayin 3074 543 General
7 The Black Rose 3028 542 General
8 JOHNNYROCKET24 2984 2420 Colonel
9 deleted
10 yosevuk 2947 410 Colonel
11 juventino 2941 286 Colonel
12 Scorba 2917 1169 Colonel\
I think we can call that done....
NO WAIT.... I forgot the most important part:
Announcing the Top 10 Highest Scores
(without Standard Points)
hmmm... it doesn't show up so well in white.... oh well.
AAFitz wrote:Robinette wrote:AK_iceman wrote:When are you going to make "Top 10 Highest Scores (without Standard Points)"?
Well that is just too easy... I simply took the scoreboard, and removed LazarusLong and AndrewB (they have both scored too many points in singles games to be on this list)...
AAFitz 5150 647a
1 Blitzaholic 3450 1448 General
2 Jork 3290 529 General
3 Stronger 3239 773 General
4 osujacket 3171 1189 General
5 deleted
6 steelplayin 3074 543 General
7 The Black Rose 3028 542 General
8 JOHNNYROCKET24 2984 2420 Colonel
9 deleted
10 yosevuk 2947 410 Colonel
11 juventino 2941 286 Colonel
12 Scorba 2917 1169 Colonel\
Now at first this seems complementary, but in reality it really isnt is it?
and they never made those charges stick dammit!
Robinette wrote:AAFitz wrote:Robinette wrote:AK_iceman wrote:When are you going to make "Top 10 Highest Scores (without Standard Points)"?
Well that is just too easy... I simply took the scoreboard, and removed LazarusLong and AndrewB (they have both scored too many points in singles games to be on this list)...
AAFitz 5150 647a
1 Blitzaholic 3450 1448 General
2 Jork 3290 529 General
3 Stronger 3239 773 General
4 osujacket 3171 1189 General
5 deleted
6 steelplayin 3074 543 General
7 The Black Rose 3028 542 General
8 JOHNNYROCKET24 2984 2420 Colonel
9 deleted
10 yosevuk 2947 410 Colonel
11 juventino 2941 286 Colonel
12 Scorba 2917 1169 Colonel\
Now at first this seems complementary, but in reality it really isnt is it?
and they never made those charges stick dammit!
I am impressed that you know the meaning of those....
Umm,wait a minute..... so just HOW DOOOO you happen to know what those mean? :shock:
AAFitz wrote:Robinette wrote:AAFitz wrote:Robinette wrote:AK_iceman wrote:When are you going to make "Top 10 Highest Scores (without Standard Points)"?
Well that is just too easy... I simply took the scoreboard, and removed LazarusLong and AndrewB (they have both scored too many points in singles games to be on this list)...
AAFitz 5150 647a
1 Blitzaholic 3450 1448 General
2 Jork 3290 529 General
3 Stronger 3239 773 General
4 osujacket 3171 1189 General
5 deleted
6 steelplayin 3074 543 General
7 The Black Rose 3028 542 General
8 JOHNNYROCKET24 2984 2420 Colonel
9 deleted
10 yosevuk 2947 410 Colonel
11 juventino 2941 286 Colonel
12 Scorba 2917 1169 Colonel\
Now at first this seems complementary, but in reality it really isnt is it?
and they never made those charges stick dammit!
I am impressed that you know the meaning of those....
Umm,wait a minute..... so just HOW DOOOO you happen to know what those mean? :shock:
Well Van Halen let us all know what a 5150 was in 86...as far as 647a goes...ill go out on a limb and say it has something to do with not wearing my leopard robe...but for all I know it means im fishing halibut out of season
Robinette wrote:Scorba wrote:This is how your post looked to me (and I imagine Johnny and Qeee too):Robinette wrote:I now present to you...
Top 10 Highest Singles Players Scores
(without team points)
....................... current score .............. current ............. highest .......
.......................... with NO...................... score................. score .......
........................ team games.............(1st wk of April)........... ever .......
1. Lazaruslong . . . .2732 . . . . . . . . . . . 2886 . . . . . . . . 2886
2. Robinette. . . . . . 2669 . . . . . . . . . . . 2785 . . . . . . . . 3021
3. Kid_A . . . . . . . . .2534 . . . . . . . . . . . 2534 . . . . . . . . 2534?
4. Nuke . . . . . . . . . 2528 . . . . . . . . . . . 2528 . . . . . . . . 3160
5. Cyberdaniel. . . . 2533 . . . . . . . . . . . 2654 . . . . . . . . 3145
6. artur1 . . . . . . . . .2497. . . . . . . . . . . 2531 . . . . . . . . 2531?
7. sully800 . . . . . . .2316 . . . . . . . . . . .2316 . . . . . . . . 2387
8. Goatboy . . . . . . . 2313. . . . . . . . . . . 2340. . . . . . . . .2340?
9. ZawBanjito. . . . . 2221 . . . . . . . . . . .2221. . . . . . . . .2558
10. RL_Orange. . . . 2094. . . . . . . . . . .2094. . . . . . . . . 3088
Blaw blaw blaw
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Frigidus wrote:but now that it's become relatively popular it's suffered the usual downturn in coolness.
qeee1 wrote:Robinette wrote:Scorba wrote:This is how your post looked to me (and I imagine Johnny and Qeee too):Robinette wrote:I now present to you...
Top 10 Highest Singles Players Scores
(without team points)
....................... current score .............. current ............. highest .......
.......................... with NO...................... score................. score .......
........................ team games.............(1st wk of April)........... ever .......
1. Lazaruslong . . . .2732 . . . . . . . . . . . 2886 . . . . . . . . 2886
2. Robinette. . . . . . 2669 . . . . . . . . . . . 2785 . . . . . . . . 3021
3. Kid_A . . . . . . . . .2534 . . . . . . . . . . . 2534 . . . . . . . . 2534?
4. Nuke . . . . . . . . . 2528 . . . . . . . . . . . 2528 . . . . . . . . 3160
5. Cyberdaniel. . . . 2533 . . . . . . . . . . . 2654 . . . . . . . . 3145
6. artur1 . . . . . . . . .2497. . . . . . . . . . . 2531 . . . . . . . . 2531?
7. sully800 . . . . . . .2316 . . . . . . . . . . .2316 . . . . . . . . 2387
8. Goatboy . . . . . . . 2313. . . . . . . . . . . 2340. . . . . . . . .2340?
9. ZawBanjito. . . . . 2221 . . . . . . . . . . .2221. . . . . . . . .2558
10. RL_Orange. . . . 2094. . . . . . . . . . .2094. . . . . . . . . 3088
Blaw blaw blaw
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Yup, scorba summed it up nicely...
Robinette wrote:Didn't know about Van Halen using the 5150 code... did they use it correctly?
tahitiwahini wrote:Robinette wrote:qeee1 wrote:what happened to me?JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:what did my score come out to ?Scorba wrote:blaw blaw should be in 10th place. No idea what my highest would have been blaw blaw
Okay guys...
All you have to do is read the post completely !!
And there was not even ANY fine print! Have to keep writing so this will look like vauge underliningMany problems exisit in trying to create an accurate list of singles only scores with the current scoring system.
In an effort to create a fair representation, without encouraging anyone to manipulate any scoring system, this list has been revamped with 2 changes....
The 1st problem to be addressed was the accuracy of removing team scores. As pointed out earlier in this thread, the higher the ratio of team games the higher the scoring error can be. The solution to this 1st problem is to limit this list to players who focus on singles games, using 88% minimum single games... or no more than 12% being team games.
The 2nd problem was the method of adjusting the score when someone had poor team scores. As pointed out in this thread, intentional team losses would be calculated as point gains in your singles score. The solution to this 2nd problem is to limit the point adjustment to a zero gain effect for the singles score.
Obviously this is not the perfect way to calculate these scores, but it is the best we can do with what we have to work with. There are many who continue to have their fingers crossed that Lack will improve the situation with regards to score calculations in the coming update. I am one of those people.
Scores have been REDUCED to remove any Positive effect from team games...
Come on guys, good grief. I've seen less anxiety and angst in the "kiss and cry" booth while the little skater waits for the judges to announce her score in the short program.
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:since nobody is going to actually figure my score out, than your list is inaccurate. I hold the most single victories untill somebody comes forward and states they have more. I never played a double/triples game untill I got to about 1,000 games. My first 8 pages of games are all singles. I was a Colonel at that point.
Blitz called me out about the triples and he was correct. He has 24 more victories than me in triples right now. I have a bunch lined up for wins and Im sure by the end of the week I will have that made up.
Robinette wrote:tahitiwahini wrote:Robinette wrote:qeee1 wrote:what happened to me?JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:what did my score come out to ?Scorba wrote:blaw blaw should be in 10th place. No idea what my highest would have been blaw blaw
Okay guys...
All you have to do is read the post completely !!
And there was not even ANY fine print! Have to keep writing so this will look like vauge underliningMany problems exisit in trying to create an accurate list of singles only scores with the current scoring system.
In an effort to create a fair representation, without encouraging anyone to manipulate any scoring system, this list has been revamped with 2 changes....
The 1st problem to be addressed was the accuracy of removing team scores. As pointed out earlier in this thread, the higher the ratio of team games the higher the scoring error can be. The solution to this 1st problem is to limit this list to players who focus on singles games, using 88% minimum single games... or no more than 12% being team games.
The 2nd problem was the method of adjusting the score when someone had poor team scores. As pointed out in this thread, intentional team losses would be calculated as point gains in your singles score. The solution to this 2nd problem is to limit the point adjustment to a zero gain effect for the singles score.
Obviously this is not the perfect way to calculate these scores, but it is the best we can do with what we have to work with. There are many who continue to have their fingers crossed that Lack will improve the situation with regards to score calculations in the coming update. I am one of those people.
Scores have been REDUCED to remove any Positive effect from team games...
Come on guys, good grief. I've seen less anxiety and angst in the "kiss and cry" booth while the little skater waits for the judges to announce her score in the short program.JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:since nobody is going to actually figure my score out, than your list is inaccurate. I hold the most single victories untill somebody comes forward and states they have more. I never played a double/triples game untill I got to about 1,000 games. My first 8 pages of games are all singles. I was a Colonel at that point.
Blitz called me out about the triples and he was correct. He has 24 more victories than me in triples right now. I have a bunch lined up for wins and Im sure by the end of the week I will have that made up.
Johnny, PLEASE stop creating games for just 1 minute, and READ this entire post.
And please take a couple extra minutes to absorb and understand that which is posted in BLUE.
Thankyou.
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:I think it was vic that had some kind of spread sheet. Get the information from him and drop in all the information to figure out everyones score.
vic wrote:I would think that unless you have played less than 20 team games, the error margin on your singles score would be over 5% which is pretty brutal.
To actually get the numbers I would guess all you need is an sql statement on game type.
However, I don't know how the db is setup, if the records don't keep track of points accumulated (instead just one basic score stat that gets updated at end of each game), then your error margin blows up to over 50%
Simply because of the fact that you won a solo game against a player who has basically gotten most of his points playing doubles - your comparison base is flawed in that case...
PS: That is why I setup my stats to only reflect wins/loss ratio, because trying to keep a track of skill levels is inherently flawed...
Robinette wrote:win/loss ratios are not an accurate guage either...
hopefully you can see the problem between a 6 player std game and the 4-5 player games you prefer with regards to the win/loss ratios.
Robinette wrote:Obviously this is not the perfect way to calculate these scores, but it is the best we can do with what we have to work with. There are many who continue to have their fingers crossed that Lack will improve the situation with regards to score calculations in the coming update. I am one of those people.
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