The Passion of Owenshooter

[Dibbun]

Hey I would be 100% in favor of protecting InsomniaRed's identity/medical records/porn pictures but:

She banned people from live chat who were calling her out on her dying bullshit and Team CC let it happen. So she's fair game.

[JoshyBoy]

Fellas, we're missing the bigger picture here. That is, the current team of moderators is probably the worst team that has ever been assembled in the history of Conquer Club (not counting AKA). The focus is clearly on quantity, not quality. Shame on the mods who are actually decent.

[Vace Cooper]

still the best post about all of this. and funny how all these goons are coming in here posting false info, repeating themselves, throwing up posts that only contain smileys, and they are not considered to be trolling the thread. in that warmth thread after their words, owen wished the team good luck and did not post in it again. many of you are posting in here far more than 6 times in 16 hours. TROLLS!!!!!!!

So exactly why was Owen given this ban?

Well, for the sake of openness let's take a look. he received an email stating:

Ahoy Owenshooter,

It looks like recently you've engaged in some specific trolling, RE your posts:
(the posts are quoted here for sake of brevity. Fc)

Re: *BpB Sig Contest/FREE PREMIUM*
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:49 am

how original... team CC has a contest where you sport a sig with a partner, one premium one freemium (doubling the exposure of the sig)... and if you win the drawing the premium gets a medal and the freemium gets 3 months of premium. how can our rag tag clan give away a year, and cc can only manage 3 months? wow!!!-0

Re: [Free Premium] Share the Warmth Epidemic 2011
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:51 am

wow... how is it that our rag tag clan can give away a free year premium to a freemium, and team CC can only manage 3 months? i applaud you for your efforts (i believe the bandits invented the sig contest concept on CC), but CC needs to step up in the prize dept. it looks bad when a bunch of forum renegades and kick ass players can muster together the funds to give away a year premium, and team cc gives away 3 months... you are better than this team CC!!!-0

p.s.-any freemium interested in a year, click on my sig...

Re: General Congratulations
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:54 am

congrats to the CC entertainment team for copying the bandits with a sig contest and upping the anty with a whole 3 month premium for the winner... oh wait, we always give away a full year!!! way to go team CC!!!-0

Re: General Congratulations
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:06 am

Congrats to the black jesus for forgetting that the CC team has done this for multiple years now, despite their yearning to mimic the BPB

Congrats to the CC entertainment team for making a contest that requires less effort/knowledge for the general populace.

PS- (your contest is still fun El Jesus Negro, nobody is trying to steal your thunder.)

congrats to the wee man for not knowing his CC history and that we have done this contest every year since cc's inception...-0

Re: General Congratulations
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:20 pm

Congrats to the Entertainment Team and the Summer Bash.


--Andy

congrats to the summer bash starting almost 2 full months after the start of summer (june 21st)... and congrats to team CC for not ponying up more than 3 months of premium for a contest when clans and individuals have contests going now with a full premium for the prize... step it up CC, you are looking bad...-0

Re: [Free Premium] Share the Warmth Epidemic 2011
Postby owenshooter on Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:27 pm

For the record owen, we are giving away a total of 2 years and 3 months in this entire event. We can offer more people prizes by splitting up what we've got, so we can make more people happy. But then again i know i shouldn't be wasting my breath explaining this to you, since by your own admission to me you argue for the sake of argument.

~Sam

hey, all i'm saying is others are giving away a full year, so you kind of look cheap... and not to mention summer started 2 months ago... anyway, knock yourself out!!! have fun!!-0

Andy then goes on to say "I think it is safe to say the above posts, which occurred over a 16 hour span actually are objectively Trolling."...hmmm..are they Andy? I see just 3 independent posts from Owen. He then responded to 3 posts, 2 of which are your team (1 in fact yourself).

Are you or your team going to come back with a rational explanation as to why you chose to shut Owen up because he exercised his right to state an opinion? After all, in the last 3 posts he was responding to something written by some one else. Or are we going to see the usual self righteous remark because some one in Admin/Mods has a thin skin and cannot take criticism. Well here's the thing Andy. The 3 month giveaway does look cheap. it does look as though this site is being cheeseparing and Fagin like in its approach. The Bandits are giving away 12 months and we have no reason to except to engender a spirit of community without asking people to follow our rules of signatures and avatars. This is Owen's beef and to be frank I agree with him wholeheartedly.

Are you now going to threaten me with a ban as I have written about the same subject (criticising you, Andy, and your team) twice in a matter of a couple of hours? Am I allowed just one more post of opinion before you throw me off the forums?

[Pirlo]

yeah he's an ass who brags that his clan is granting 17 more dollars

[Dibbun]

yeah he's an ass who brags that his clan is granting 17 more dollars

Hey bro your last post was just smiley spam and this post includes a personal insult and no real content so not sure what kind of credibility you think you have when criticizing someone for getting banned for trolling.

[Pirlo]

yeah he's an ass who brags that his clan is granting 17 more dollars

Hey bro your last post was just smiley spam and this post includes a personal insult and no real content so not sure what kind of credibility you think you have when criticizing someone for getting banned for trolling.

hey I'm expressing my opinion and I'm not taking about you. if you liked it, just shut up and enjoy it; if you don't, shut up & f*ck off.

[Serbia]

Owenshooter was given a 3 month forum ban. In my opinion, he has actually gotten off relatively easily.

According to the rules, owen had previously committed a Major Infraction. When? When he posted the facebook page for InsomniaRed's new boyfriend.

this is not factual. this information was posted by a former C&A mod, not owen. keep your stories straight. owen did not post IR's new boyfriend's FB info. he simply stated that she was a liar and was not dying (which was proven to be true). (UNRELATED PARTS EDITED OUT)

Yes he did post it. And he posted it first. (In the public forums anyway) Here is your evidence.
Owen's Initial Post, in the General Congratulations thread, on Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:25 pm

congrats to insomnia red for shaking her coma and having a nice day at the beach with her boyfriend!!

*mod edit*

be sure to scroll down to the 27th... and the night strike apology should be rolling in at any moment...-0

Note the *mod edit*. That's where the link was. I personally saw it before the edit. Hell, I reported it as personal information.

LoVo's post in the General Congratulations thread, on Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:28 pm

congrats to me (yer i know)
http://imgur.com/kQ13T

LoVo's thread titled Insomnia Red.... posted on Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:56 pm

Just so you are all informed

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=46658&start=2985#p3302897

pretty much found where she is....IE not in a coma...with a new bf...fully healthy...

though by fully healthy I mean not right in the head...

Also related

http://imgur.com/kQ13T

My story is straight Brett. Perhaps you don't remember.

[Pirlo]

Owenshooter was given a 3 month forum ban. In my opinion, he has actually gotten off relatively easily.

According to the rules, owen had previously committed a Major Infraction. When? When he posted the facebook page for InsomniaRed's new boyfriend.

this is not factual. this information was posted by a former C&A mod, not owen. keep your stories straight. owen did not post IR's new boyfriend's FB info. he simply stated that she was a liar and was not dying (which was proven to be true). (UNRELATED PARTS EDITED OUT)

Yes he did post it. And he posted it first. (In the public forums anyway) Here is your evidence.
Owen's Initial Post, in the General Congratulations thread, on Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:25 pm

congrats to insomnia red for shaking her coma and having a nice day at the beach with her boyfriend!!

*mod edit*

be sure to scroll down to the 27th... and the night strike apology should be rolling in at any moment...-0

Note the *mod edit*. That's where the link was. I personally saw it before the edit. Hell, I reported it as personal information.

LoVo's post in the General Congratulations thread, on Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:28 pm

congrats to me (yer i know)
http://imgur.com/kQ13T

LoVo's thread titled Insomnia Red.... posted on Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:56 pm

Just so you are all informed

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=46658&start=2985#p3302897

pretty much found where she is....IE not in a coma...with a new bf...fully healthy...

though by fully healthy I mean not right in the head...

Also related

http://imgur.com/kQ13T

My story is straight Brett. Perhaps you don't remember.

I thought personal info should be applicable to CC members!

[Serbia]

I thought personal info should be applicable to CC members!

If you are suggesting that posting someone else's facebook page, who is not a member of CC, is not posting personal information about someone, I'm glad you brought that up!

On that page were pictures of InsomniaRed, posts made about Insom and, in fact, posts made BY Insom. In fact, look at owen's quote - the link was added in support of a post about Insom, along with directions on how to discover specific information about her on the linked-to page. Clearly, the link was a Personal Information violation.

Just because it was not InsomniaRed's personal page, doesn't mean it didn't contain personal information about her.

[Pirlo]

I thought personal info should be applicable to CC members!

If you are suggesting that posting someone else's facebook page, who is not a member of CC, is not posting personal information about someone, I'm glad you brought that up!

On that page were pictures of InsomniaRed, posts made about Insom and, in fact, posts made BY Insom. In fact, look at owen's quote - the link was added in support of a post about Insom, along with directions on how to discover specific information about her on the linked-to page. Clearly, the link was a Personal Information violation.

Just because it was not InsomniaRed's personal page, doesn't mean it didn't contain personal information about her.

but Insom herself did post her real name which enable you to make search and find her profile?

[Vace Cooper]

I thought personal info should be applicable to CC members!

If you are suggesting that posting someone else's facebook page, who is not a member of CC, is not posting personal information about someone, I'm glad you brought that up!

On that page were pictures of InsomniaRed, posts made about Insom and, in fact, posts made BY Insom. In fact, look at owen's quote - the link was added in support of a post about Insom, along with directions on how to discover specific information about her on the linked-to page. Clearly, the link was a Personal Information violation.

Just because it was not InsomniaRed's personal page, doesn't mean it didn't contain personal information about her.

but Insom herself did post her real name which enable you to make search and find her profile?

she posted her own info all over CC, including her IMDB link!!! this was not personal info!! and the boyfriend is not a member of CC!!! you are stretching. one has nothing to do with the other. he did not receive a warning for this, so it does not appy to this thread. you are now trolling by having posted about this over a half dozen times. you are now trolling this thread by CC's new standard!!!

[Serbia]

I thought personal info should be applicable to CC members!

If you are suggesting that posting someone else's facebook page, who is not a member of CC, is not posting personal information about someone, I'm glad you brought that up!

On that page were pictures of InsomniaRed, posts made about Insom and, in fact, posts made BY Insom. In fact, look at owen's quote - the link was added in support of a post about Insom, along with directions on how to discover specific information about her on the linked-to page. Clearly, the link was a Personal Information violation.

Just because it was not InsomniaRed's personal page, doesn't mean it didn't contain personal information about her.

but Insom herself did post her real name which enable you to make search and find her profile?

she posted her own info all over CC, including her IMDB link!!! this was not personal info!! and the boyfriend is not a member of CC!!! you are stretching. one has nothing to do with the other. he did not receive a warning for this, so it does not appy to this thread. you are now trolling by having posted about this over a half dozen times. you are now trolling this thread by CC's new standard!!!

Firstly, her profile is private, so I don't know how her boyfriend's information was found.
And Vace, if I post personal information about myself by posting a picture of myself, along with my name and my address, are you saying that it's acceptable for you then to search my name, find and post pictures of me being a drunken idiot at a bar with my arm around a woman other than my wife? That, sir, would be a stretch.

And I've detailed for you already why posting someone else's information can STILL count as personal information about the CC user. Again, from the Community Guidelines:

Using a person's real information, picture, address, blog or anything else "personal" is NOT ok, and is Personal Information Abuse.

That page was/is full of personal information on InsomniaRed. And don't forget, just because someone posted some information about themselves on this site, it DOES NOT give anyone else the right to post further personal information on them. This is, very clearly, an open-and-shut case.

[Pirlo]

Firstly, her profile is private, so I don't know how her boyfriend's information was found.
And Vace, if I post personal information about myself by posting a picture of myself, along with my name and my address, are you saying that it's acceptable for you then to search my name, find and post pictures of me being a drunken idiot at a bar with my arm around a woman other than my wife? That, sir, would be a stretch.

as long as you make these pictures that show yourself as an idiot drunk available online, then it is definitely acceptable.

[Vace Cooper]

I thought personal info should be applicable to CC members!

If you are suggesting that posting someone else's facebook page, who is not a member of CC, is not posting personal information about someone, I'm glad you brought that up!

On that page were pictures of InsomniaRed, posts made about Insom and, in fact, posts made BY Insom. In fact, look at owen's quote - the link was added in support of a post about Insom, along with directions on how to discover specific information about her on the linked-to page. Clearly, the link was a Personal Information violation.

Just because it was not InsomniaRed's personal page, doesn't mean it didn't contain personal information about her.

but Insom herself did post her real name which enable you to make search and find her profile?

she posted her own info all over CC, including her IMDB link!!! this was not personal info!! and the boyfriend is not a member of CC!!! you are stretching. one has nothing to do with the other. he did not receive a warning for this, so it does not appy to this thread. you are now trolling by having posted about this over a half dozen times. you are now trolling this thread by CC's new standard!!!

Firstly, her profile is private, so I don't know how her boyfriend's information was found.
And Vace, if I post personal information about myself by posting a picture of myself, along with my name and my address, are you saying that it's acceptable for you then to search my name, find and post pictures of me being a drunken idiot at a bar with my arm around a woman other than my wife? That, sir, would be a stretch.

And I've detailed for you already why posting someone else's information can STILL count as personal information about the CC user. Again, from the Community Guidelines:

Using a person's real information, picture, address, blog or anything else "personal" is NOT ok, and is Personal Information Abuse.

That page was/is full of personal information on InsomniaRed. And don't forget, just because someone posted some information about themselves on this site, it DOES NOT give anyone else the right to post further personal information on them. This is, very clearly, an open-and-shut case.

then take it to C&A and stop trolling this thread with an unrelated "case". you are trolling by CC's own guidelines by posting off topic in this thread, repeatedly, beating a dead horse by stating the same thing. you are off topic and trolling for MULTIPLE PAGES NOW! owen made 6 posts in 16 hours!! 3 were responses to other users!! if you think this is an open and shut case, start a C&A about it and lengthen his ban. he was not warned about this, and was not given any punishment for this. so, go ahead and knock yourself out with a C&A thread, but stop derailing and trolling this thread with an unrelated case. GOOD DAY SIR!

[Serbia]

Firstly, her profile is private, so I don't know how her boyfriend's information was found.
And Vace, if I post personal information about myself by posting a picture of myself, along with my name and my address, are you saying that it's acceptable for you then to search my name, find and post pictures of me being a drunken idiot at a bar with my arm around a woman other than my wife? That, sir, would be a stretch.

as long as you make these pictures that show yourself as an idiot drunk available online, then it is definitely acceptable.

You're wrong. It's still personal information. Blogs are on the internet, and they are off-limits, according to CC's rules. Why would pictures (facebook pages, twitter feeds, flickr accounts, etc.) be any different?
We are not debating opinion here, we're debating the enforcement of rules that are already on the books here at CC.



Vace, you're repeating yourself, and trolling. You are posting in a manner similar to owen, for which he was banned.

[Serbia]

As far as starting a C&A thread, I'm waiting for a response from Team CC before I do that. That is the next step I will take, obviously.

[blakebowling]

I didn't bother to read all 10 pages of this thread (mostly because I don't care that much), but I found it ironic that while he was banned for trolling, his premium giveaway contest remains stickied.

[Pirlo]

Firstly, her profile is private, so I don't know how her boyfriend's information was found.
And Vace, if I post personal information about myself by posting a picture of myself, along with my name and my address, are you saying that it's acceptable for you then to search my name, find and post pictures of me being a drunken idiot at a bar with my arm around a woman other than my wife? That, sir, would be a stretch.

as long as you make these pictures that show yourself as an idiot drunk available online, then it is definitely acceptable.

You're wrong. It's still personal information. Blogs are on the internet, and they are off-limits, according to CC's rules. Why would pictures (facebook pages, twitter feeds, flickr accounts, etc.) be any different?
We are not debating opinion here, we're debating the enforcement of rules that are already on the books here at CC.

dude, read your post... if you shared your real name here beside a pic of yourself, then you are enabling us to view your facebook profile page and pics... I have no Idea how it's illegal for me to bring any other pic of yourself from that facebook profile you shared here.

[Serbia]

Firstly, her profile is private, so I don't know how her boyfriend's information was found.
And Vace, if I post personal information about myself by posting a picture of myself, along with my name and my address, are you saying that it's acceptable for you then to search my name, find and post pictures of me being a drunken idiot at a bar with my arm around a woman other than my wife? That, sir, would be a stretch.

as long as you make these pictures that show yourself as an idiot drunk available online, then it is definitely acceptable.

You're wrong. It's still personal information. Blogs are on the internet, and they are off-limits, according to CC's rules. Why would pictures (facebook pages, twitter feeds, flickr accounts, etc.) be any different?
We are not debating opinion here, we're debating the enforcement of rules that are already on the books here at CC.

dude, read your post... if you shared your real name here beside a pic of yourself, then you are enabling us to view your facebook profile page and pics... I have no Idea how it's illegal for me to bring any other pic of yourself from that facebook profile you shared here.

I'm not saying that if I posted my facebook page, you can't post anything else from my facebook page. (although I believe that CC would still deem you guilty of posting personal information)
Look, you say Insom posted her facebook page. Fine. She DID NOT post her new boyfriend's page. Someone else posted that. On THAT page, which was never before posted by ANYONE on this site, let alone InsomniaRed, there was information about InsomniaRed concerning her personal life, suggesting she has a boyfriend, among other details. Did you know that beforehand? No, of course not. Why? Because she never posted it! Take the blinders off for one minute, and realize that I'm right here.

The information that was in that link contained personal information about InsomniaRed, including never-before-seen photos, that had NEVER BEEN SHARED BY INSOMNIARED. That is the absolute definition of posting personal information about someone. When you add in the fact that owen posted it with every intention of further destroying her reputation, it is most definitely ban worthy. This should not even be a debatable subject.

[Dibbun]

The information that was in that link contained personal information about InsomniaRed, including never-before-seen photos, that had NEVER BEEN SHARED BY INSOMNIARED. That is the absolute definition of posting personal information about someone. When you add in the fact that owen posted it with every intention of further destroying her reputation, it is most definitely ban worthy. This should not even be a debatable subject.

She banned people from live chat for disputing her lies about being ill. Team CC let that happen. Therefore, they made her personal life canon, and when that canon was found to be quite, quite inaccurate, people naturally wanted the truth to be known.

It's not like he posted her porn pics.

[Vace Cooper]

I'm not saying that if I posted my facebook page, you can't post anything else from my facebook page. (although I believe that CC would still deem you guilty of posting personal information)
Look, you say Insom posted her facebook page. Fine. She DID NOT post her new boyfriend's page. Someone else posted that. On THAT page, which was never before posted by ANYONE on this site, let alone InsomniaRed, there was information about InsomniaRed concerning her personal life, suggesting she has a boyfriend, among other details. Did you know that beforehand? No, of course not. Why? Because she never posted it! Take the blinders off for one minute, and realize that I'm right here.

The information that was in that link contained personal information about InsomniaRed, including never-before-seen photos, that had NEVER BEEN SHARED BY INSOMNIARED. That is the absolute definition of posting personal information about someone. When you add in the fact that owen posted it with every intention of further destroying her reputation, it is most definitely ban worthy. This should not even be a debatable subject.

you are repeating yourself, over and over and over. it is off topic from this thread. you are effectively trolling. please leave the thread and start your own C&A thread. you have surpassed what owen did to get 3 months and you don't even realize it. look forward to your C&A thread.

[Army of GOD]

Fellas, we're missing the bigger picture here. That is, the current team of moderators is probably the worst team that has ever been assembled in the history of Conquer Club (not counting AKA). The focus is clearly on quantity, not quality. Shame on the mods who are actually decent.

Owen himself called your class of mods the "jr. mint mod squad", so I lol'd hard at this post.

[Uncle Death]

I'm a Bandit but probably Owen's least favorite. I'm not a big fan of the forums because so many posts I read make me queasy. The Bandits forum I have found to be remarkable due to the humor and intelligence exhibited there. Certainly not my posts but the other members posts I refer to. That for the most part is all I spend my time on looking at the forums with the one exception being a suggestion I made that made everybody go nuts. I mention that because I wouldn't post in the manner that Owen does but I respect his right to do so. I can see how some people find some of Owen's posts annoying but I look out there and I find so many more posters vastly more annoying it's not even funny. Owen was bragging or "representing" as you young people like to say about his contest. He was mildly making fun of others efforts to do the same. I understand how many of you will assume I am biased in my opinion but the truth is I'm really just barely biased. Owen getting this ban was not an impartial judgement. This was personal. People who didn't like him and had the power to do so used it. They used their little rule book which apparently changes quite often and sent him to the Gulag. They did not use reason. Before I punch somebody in the face or put a screwdriver in their knee I let them know they are starting to piss me off and ask them to quit it. I think that's reasonable. I just don't do it and then write a long explanation of why I did it. That is what happened regardless of past so called "offenses". If people were getting pissed why not just pm or call him out in the forums first? That wasn't done because somebody could use their power and get off on it.

[natty dread]

Serbia, quit trolling.

[Army of GOD]

Serbia, quit trolling.

He's not trolling. What he's posting is legitimate and completely on-topic. BpB and Dibbun's ball sucking crew are looking for things that incriminate owen. Serbia is giving that.