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Should We Drug Test People who Apply for Welfare?

 
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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Applicants?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:06 pm

I should make a flag that says, "Don't DERP on me!"

And wave it around in your presence.
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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Applicants?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:07 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Dude I'm tired and not getting into your post tonight, and that is final.


Have nice dreams appealing to state intervention in people's privacy!


welfare is a private issue? who knew?

what have you been smoking?

insert insulting childish photo here


"Oh gosh darnit, I'm so angry."

Thanks for letting my practice writing skills earlier. I think the best part was calling you a "mindless zombie of political marketing."

That just applies so neatly to you!


Ignoring welfare abuse is probably better. For sure it is easier


Hey, Mr Quasi-Liberty, weren't you going to bed?
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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Applicants?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:09 pm

Welfare abuse is wrong. Deal with it.
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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Applicants?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:10 pm

Phatscotty wrote:Welfare abuse is wrong. Deal with it.


Where's my "Don't DERP on me" flag?
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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Applicants?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:14 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Welfare abuse is wrong. Deal with it.


Where's my "Don't DERP on me" flag?


Hanging on flag poles every couple blocks from sea to shining sea.
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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Applicants?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:18 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Welfare abuse is wrong. Deal with it.


Where's my "Don't DERP on me" flag?


Hanging on flag poles every couple blocks from sea to shining sea.



Hey, I found your flag:



Image



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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Applicants?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:20 pm

haha. I hope that's a joke, because I lol'd hard
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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Applicants?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:23 pm

Phatscotty wrote:haha. I hope that's a joke, because I lol'd hard



It's pretty good, huh!


When's your next quasi-liberty post coming?
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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Applicants?

Postby john9blue on Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:14 pm

i don't think this thread is getting anywhere. you guys need to chill the f*ck out and stop trolling each other.

bbs: phatscotty isn't a neocon... at all

phat: d.t.w.a. causes higher federal spending and intrudes a bit on personal liberty. those are just facts.

everyone else: don't be dumb

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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Applicants?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:05 pm

john9blue wrote:i don't think this thread is getting anywhere. you guys need to chill the f*ck out and stop trolling each other.

bbs: phatscotty isn't a neocon... at all

phat: d.t.w.a. causes higher federal spending and intrudes a bit on personal liberty. those are just facts.

everyone else: don't be dumb

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No worries, john9blue!

The Guns of Troll have long been silenced.
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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Applicants?

Postby john9blue on Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:42 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
john9blue wrote:i don't think this thread is getting anywhere. you guys need to chill the f*ck out and stop trolling each other.

bbs: phatscotty isn't a neocon... at all

phat: d.t.w.a. causes higher federal spending and intrudes a bit on personal liberty. those are just facts.

everyone else: don't be dumb

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No worries, john9blue!

The Guns of Troll have long been silenced.


your troll switch is never off

you can't fool me
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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Applicants?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:51 pm

john9blue wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
john9blue wrote:i don't think this thread is getting anywhere. you guys need to chill the f*ck out and stop trolling each other.

bbs: phatscotty isn't a neocon... at all

phat: d.t.w.a. causes higher federal spending and intrudes a bit on personal liberty. those are just facts.

everyone else: don't be dumb

k?


No worries, john9blue!

The Guns of Troll have long been silenced.


your troll switch is never off

you can't fool me


[An ominous wind rustles the leaves of Troll Forest.]
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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Applicants?

Postby Iliad on Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:32 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
john9blue wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
john9blue wrote:i don't think this thread is getting anywhere. you guys need to chill the f*ck out and stop trolling each other.

bbs: phatscotty isn't a neocon... at all

phat: d.t.w.a. causes higher federal spending and intrudes a bit on personal liberty. those are just facts.

everyone else: don't be dumb

k?


No worries, john9blue!

The Guns of Troll have long been silenced.


your troll switch is never off

you can't fool me


[An ominous wind rustles the leaves of Troll Forest.]

It's quiet...
Too quiet.
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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Applicants?

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:49 am

john9blue wrote:i don't think this thread is getting anywhere. you guys need to chill the f*ck out and stop trolling each other.

bbs: phatscotty isn't a neocon... at all

phat: d.t.w.a. causes higher federal spending and intrudes a bit on personal liberty. those are just facts.

everyone else: don't be dumb

k?


There isn't anything for me to say that I haven't already said. Bottom line is I think what Florida is doing is a good idea.

I understand where you guys are coming from on the Liberty front, I just don't see it that way when you are applying to live off other people.

Would you mind getting into how exactly liberty is trampled on? Do you think that taking working peoples money to redistribute to non-working people treads on the workers Liberty? It would be nice to hear from someone who does not have a vein popping out of their neck.
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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Applicants?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:58 am

Phatscotty wrote:
john9blue wrote:i don't think this thread is getting anywhere. you guys need to chill the f*ck out and stop trolling each other.

bbs: phatscotty isn't a neocon... at all

phat: d.t.w.a. causes higher federal spending and intrudes a bit on personal liberty. those are just facts.

everyone else: don't be dumb

k?


I'm for liberty, guise! Really! I am!

But I want drug tests to be done on only those on welfare!

I don't want welfare, but I won't make that argument.

I just stick with drug tests, and I know that sounds ridiculous, but I just enjoy trolling people.

[eagerly awaits someone's reply]


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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Applicants?

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:01 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
john9blue wrote:i don't think this thread is getting anywhere. you guys need to chill the f*ck out and stop trolling each other.

bbs: phatscotty isn't a neocon... at all

phat: d.t.w.a. causes higher federal spending and intrudes a bit on personal liberty. those are just facts.

everyone else: don't be dumb

k?

Would you mind getting into how exactly liberty is trampled on? Do you think that taking working peoples money to redistribute to non-working people treads on the workers Liberty? It would be nice to hear from someone who does not have a vein popping out of their neck.


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Taking your own advice, a simple I don't know would be fine BBS.

Instead of espousing irrelevant positions, avoiding the obvious points, or resorting to low quality trolling, I contend that it is best for the community and for the individual to simply say, "I don't know."
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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Applicants?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:04 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
john9blue wrote:i don't think this thread is getting anywhere. you guys need to chill the f*ck out and stop trolling each other.

bbs: phatscotty isn't a neocon... at all

phat: d.t.w.a. causes higher federal spending and intrudes a bit on personal liberty. those are just facts.

everyone else: don't be dumb

k?

Would you mind getting into how exactly liberty is trampled on? Do you think that taking working peoples money to redistribute to non-working people treads on the workers Liberty? It would be nice to hear from someone who does not have a vein popping out of their neck.


[Troll Filter Engaged.]


Taking your own advice, a simple I don't know would be fine BBS.

Instead of espousing irrelevant positions, avoiding the obvious points, or resorting to low quality trolling, I contend that it is best for the community and for the individual to simply say, "I don't know."



Let the games begin.
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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Applicants?

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:05 pm

again? I did not think you would pass on the opportunity to school me about liberty and it's relationship with living of the government.


BTW, I asked Johnblue a Q, not you..... Who's trolling who?
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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Applicants?

Postby john9blue on Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:41 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
john9blue wrote:i don't think this thread is getting anywhere. you guys need to chill the f*ck out and stop trolling each other.

bbs: phatscotty isn't a neocon... at all

phat: d.t.w.a. causes higher federal spending and intrudes a bit on personal liberty. those are just facts.

everyone else: don't be dumb

k?


There isn't anything for me to say that I haven't already said. Bottom line is I think what Florida is doing is a good idea.

I understand where you guys are coming from on the Liberty front, I just don't see it that way when you are applying to live off other people.

Would you mind getting into how exactly liberty is trampled on? Do you think that taking working peoples money to redistribute to non-working people treads on the workers Liberty? It would be nice to hear from someone who does not have a vein popping out of their neck.


welfare itself intrudes on liberty. telling people that they have to take a drug test to get welfare intrudes on liberty even more, because you are forcing them to change their lifestyle to get government assistance. that doesn't automatically mean it's a bad idea, though.
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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Applicants?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:44 pm

Phatscotty wrote:again? I did not think you would pass on the opportunity to school me about liberty and it's relationship with living of the government.



You seem a bit butthurt.
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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Applicants?

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:46 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:again? I did not think you would pass on the opportunity to school me about liberty and it's relationship with living of the government.



You seem a bit butthurt.


Well, I'm just asking. You guys are making the charge that dtwa treads on liberty. I am asking how so, and not for a picture or post of a troll. You seem to have passed on that question and that is okay, no butthurt here because, I was asking John, who actually seems to want to talk about the topic at hand,
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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Applicants?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:48 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:again? I did not think you would pass on the opportunity to school me about liberty and it's relationship with living of the government.



You seem a bit butthurt.


Well, I'm just asking. You guys are making the charge that dtwa treads on liberty. I am asking how so, and not for a picture or post of a troll.


Yeah, still butthurt.
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Re: Drug Tests for Welfare Applicants?

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:21 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:again? I did not think you would pass on the opportunity to school me about liberty and it's relationship with living of the government.



You seem a bit butthurt.


Well, I'm just asking. You guys are making the charge that dtwa treads on liberty. I am asking how so, and not for a picture or post of a troll.


Yeah, still butthurt.


Stop trolling then
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Re: D.T.W.A.

Postby john9blue on Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:11 pm

you're being kind of a faggot bbs
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Re: D.T.W.A.

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:56 pm

john9blue wrote:you're being kind of a faggot bbs


I don't think Phatscotty should ever be taken seriously, and you've completely missed the earlier story.


I patiently dealt with his position from pages 67 or so to 68 as epitomized by these two posts: here and here.


He responds with utter nonsense or unrelated issues to defend his drug-testing policy, I call him out on it, and then he digs in his heels and spouts crap like "abuse is abuse" and "derp a derp" (or we could say that he's just trolling. see: his responses after mine here: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=144779&start=1035#p3339072). From that point, he deserves no respect on the fora, so his positions should be ridiculed.

Convince me why we should respect Phatscotty because it is my position that there are social consequences for trolling, so he deserves all the ridicule that people will deliver him.
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