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Re: Memebase Mafia [29/32] Day 2 - I Own A Horse

Postby nagerous on Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:56 am

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Re: Memebase Mafia [29/32] Day 2 - I Own A Horse

Postby nagerous on Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:04 am

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VOTE KWANTON SIR!


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Re: Memebase Mafia [29/32] Day 2 - I Own A Horse

Postby strike wolf on Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:34 am

Dear god. Who let me post while I was drunk? Does no one remember why that's a bad idea?

Anyways, as I will try to say a bit more clearly now that I just have a mild hangover.

The rodion issue is interesting, the role could be town or scum, it could even be third party of some type. Without examining the player behind it or balance which we really don't know enough about currently to fully speculate, I would say that it is indeed about 50-50 either way and not worthy of automatically lynching (if anything it leans slightly third party not mafia). I would however like to hear from rodion (there are some things that could sway me towards him being town very decidedly but I would need to hear it from him (if I say what I'm thinking it tips him off on how he should play it if he is scum)). The role itself I wouldn't mind having it roleblocked each night or vigged as chances are he's more likely to hit townies and hurt us.

So is it safe to assume your case on kwan isn't a joke nag?
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Re: Memebase Mafia [29/32] Day 2 - I Own A Horse

Postby naxus on Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:29 pm

edocsil wrote:
chapcrap wrote:
edocsil wrote:Killer number 1 is the one we have been seeing the other scenes. Killer 2 looks like a SK to me. Any info from the night or will we throw wild accusations around D2?


The dead, why aren't they doing anything.....

We have had only one other death scene and that was the lynch. I'm not sure what you're suggesting and why you think this. Not saying I disagree, just don't understand. Please elaborate.


Red bit is in error, it was players posting that meme, not the mods. Killer 2 seems to be an sk and not a town killing role and doesn't have a feel of a group ruling out mafia.


The dead, why are they not doing anything.


Killer 2 could also be a vig that got gun happy with all the talk of Gut killing yesterday
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Re: Memebase Mafia [29/32] Day 2 - I Own A Horse

Postby slowreactor on Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:48 pm

Rodion wrote:How can you make mason pairings with an odd (29) number of players?


Guess who got stuck without a partner... :*(
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Re: Memebase Mafia [29/32] Day 2 - I Own A Horse

Postby drake_259 on Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:07 pm

slowreactor wrote:
Rodion wrote:How can you make mason pairings with an odd (29) number of players?


Guess who got stuck without a partner... :*(

I dunno, who?

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Re: Memebase Mafia [29/32] Day 2 - I Own A Horse

Postby slowreactor on Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:07 pm

drake_259 wrote:
slowreactor wrote:
Rodion wrote:How can you make mason pairings with an odd (29) number of players?


Guess who got stuck without a partner... :*(

I dunno, who?

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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby icedagger on Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:32 pm

Right I've skimmed the thread now, and I've made an interesting discovery: 38 pages of solid internet memes can make you lose the will to live. I think this also explains 4chan.

Anyway, I've decided it's for the best that I claim since we almost certainly have quite a few town power roles and I don't want to kill them off. I'm Paranoid Parrot, town paranoid gun owner. Anyone who targets me at night will die.

Moving on, Vote Srike wolf. I'm honestly suprised he wasn't lynched on day one. He's claimed voteless townie- a role that actively hurts town even if he's telling the truth, since he can't vote scum but ups the number of people needed for a lynch.

I'm not at all convinced he is a townie though, for three reasons:
1) He originally voted someone, before remembering he was voteless. If the extent of my role was voteless townie, I think I would remember the voteless bit. If I were scum though... the more interesting part of my role might well lead me to forget I had no vote.
2) Would the mods really put a voteless townie in the game? A player who has very little ability to impact anything would be a real bastard role and likely promote inactivity, which brings me to my third point...
3) Strike wolf has been posting like a demon. He seems altogether too interested in the game for someone with such a crappy role.

Bearing all this in mind I'd say there's at least a 50% chance strike is scum. When you consider that even if he is town we're actually better off without him, I think he's a great lynch candidate.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [29/32] Day 2 - I Own A Horse

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Sun Sep 04, 2011 7:14 pm

wow. *seees pedobear harassing someone, continue walking*

Thanks icedagger for warning us about your PGO. I'd hate to see any town power roles target you and get killed. Tho I wonder if it's a cover-up so that you don't get investigated? It's a good claim for a mafia member.

So it looks like dazza was hit by the pedobear lastnight. What exactly does your role do, Rod?

Sorry you got left out slow. I'd say that either means you're mafia or you're town. (1) mod left a mafia member out. Mafia are already "masoned" and so won't need a mason with a partner. On the other hand, singling out scum may be dangerous to the game, so (2) mod left a townie out. This way the mafia have a chance to blend in and make themselves look town. I'd take the latter I think. I suspect because slow was left out that means he is more than likely town. But of course this is just me playing the mod and I have no other indiction that might help me with this conclusion, but from a mod standpoint this would make sense. Of course I risk looking like a mafia member by saying this (it would look like I'm covering for snow) so you just take it as you see it. So I say snow is innocent unless we have further evidence that he is scum.

On the case of strikewolf, however, I am not so sure. icedagger presents a case on him and I don't know what to think. If we lynch him, then either (1) he's mafia and was hiding behind his "voteless townie" claim, or (2) he's acually is a voteless townie. If he flips scum then that helps town, but if he actully is what he says he is then town just loses a weak VT (assuming no night powers). The town wins because there is less people for the cop to choose from, thus making it more likely he will find scum (although not significantly more likely), and we will have voting patterns, and we will have less needed votes to win. But on the flipside, if strikewolf's claim is accurate, then we lose an experienced scumhunting player, and waste a lynch on a townie, which brings us that much closer to LYLO. I say strike should live if we all agree he really is voteless townie.

What's up nag? I don't get your case on kwanton. Care to explain?

And anyway, today looks like a nice day for struttin down the street...

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Re: Memebase Mafia [29/32] Day 2 - I Own A Horse

Postby DoomYoshi on Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:14 pm

I turn away for a second and come back to many paragraphs of WIFOM. I don't always vote icedagger but when I do, it's because he blatantly admits to skimming.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby JenBroness on Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:58 pm

icedagger wrote:Right I've skimmed the thread now, and I've made an interesting discovery: 38 pages of solid internet memes can make you lose the will to live. I think this also explains 4chan.

Anyway, I've decided it's for the best that I claim since we almost certainly have quite a few town power roles and I don't want to kill them off. I'm Paranoid Parrot, town paranoid gun owner. Anyone who targets me at night will die.

Moving on, Vote Srike wolf. I'm honestly suprised he wasn't lynched on day one. He's claimed voteless townie- a role that actively hurts town even if he's telling the truth, since he can't vote scum but ups the number of people needed for a lynch.

I'm not at all convinced he is a townie though, for three reasons:
1) He originally voted someone, before remembering he was voteless. If the extent of my role was voteless townie, I think I would remember the voteless bit. If I were scum though... the more interesting part of my role might well lead me to forget I had no vote.
2) Would the mods really put a voteless townie in the game? A player who has very little ability to impact anything would be a real bastard role and likely promote inactivity, which brings me to my third point...
3) Strike wolf has been posting like a demon. He seems altogether too interested in the game for someone with such a crappy role.

Bearing all this in mind I'd say there's at least a 50% chance strike is scum. When you consider that even if he is town we're actually better off without him, I think he's a great lynch candidate.


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Re: Memebase Mafia [29/32] Day 2 - I Own A Horse

Postby JenBroness on Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:00 pm

EBWOP - Since everything's been going rather better than I expected recently, I upped my expectations. I suggest you all do the same: up yours!
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Re: Memebase Mafia [29/32] Day 2 - I Own A Horse

Postby safariguy5 on Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:24 pm

shieldgenerator7 wrote:wow. *seees pedobear harassing someone, continue walking*

Thanks icedagger for warning us about your PGO. I'd hate to see any town power roles target you and get killed. Tho I wonder if it's a cover-up so that you don't get investigated? It's a good claim for a mafia member.

So it looks like dazza was hit by the pedobear lastnight. What exactly does your role do, Rod?

Sorry you got left out slow. I'd say that either means you're mafia or you're town. (1) mod left a mafia member out. Mafia are already "masoned" and so won't need a mason with a partner. On the other hand, singling out scum may be dangerous to the game, so (2) mod left a townie out. This way the mafia have a chance to blend in and make themselves look town. I'd take the latter I think. I suspect because slow was left out that means he is more than likely town. But of course this is just me playing the mod and I have no other indiction that might help me with this conclusion, but from a mod standpoint this would make sense. Of course I risk looking like a mafia member by saying this (it would look like I'm covering for snow) so you just take it as you see it. So I say snow is innocent unless we have further evidence that he is scum.

On the case of strikewolf, however, I am not so sure. icedagger presents a case on him and I don't know what to think. If we lynch him, then either (1) he's mafia and was hiding behind his "voteless townie" claim, or (2) he's acually is a voteless townie. If he flips scum then that helps town, but if he actully is what he says he is then town just loses a weak VT (assuming no night powers). The town wins because there is less people for the cop to choose from, thus making it more likely he will find scum (although not significantly more likely), and we will have voting patterns, and we will have less needed votes to win. But on the flipside, if strikewolf's claim is accurate, then we lose an experienced scumhunting player, and waste a lynch on a townie, which brings us that much closer to LYLO. I say strike should live if we all agree he really is voteless townie.

What's up nag? I don't get your case on kwanton. Care to explain?

And anyway, today looks like a nice day for struttin down the street...

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Speaking of WIFOM, we don't even know who's being truthful about not having a daymason, and I don't think you can guess anything as the mason thing should have been randomly done if I'm not mistaken.

And this shield claim is easily testable, I know I asked him to do it yesterday, but a lot of things were going on with deadline, and I don't think we really got that resolved. Just have him vote someone and see what the VC says. And it makes a decent amount of sense for use to have a voteless townie here. With 32 players, it's difficult enough to balance with all the town roles.

And if there's one thing I know, strike wolf knows how to play a good VT role. Textbook active scumhunting trying to get mafia attention on himself. Of course, this is the same sort of behavior scum might try to employ, but in a game this big, I'd wager there's at least 1 SKer, so might be riskier if he were scum.

So no, I'm not buying the case on him.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [29/32] Day 2 - I Own A Horse

Postby spiesr on Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:44 pm

shieldgenerator7 wrote:Sorry you got left out slow. I'd say that either means you're mafia or you're town. (1) mod left a mafia member out. Mafia are already "masoned" and so won't need a mason with a partner. On the other hand, singling out scum may be dangerous to the game, so (2) mod left a townie out. This way the mafia have a chance to blend in and make themselves look town. I'd take the latter I think. I suspect because slow was left out that means he is more than likely town. But of course this is just me playing the mod and I have no other indiction that might help me with this conclusion, but from a mod standpoint this would make sense.
No, the reason that he has no partner is that he is forever alone. I mean, if he had a partner to talk to today then he wouldn't be be forever alone, so wouldn't he cease to exist or something?
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People go to 4 chan in order to lose the will to live?
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Re: Memebase Mafia [29/32] Day 2 - I Own A Horse

Postby skillfusniper33 on Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:35 pm

spiesr wrote:
shieldgenerator7 wrote:Sorry you got left out slow. I'd say that either means you're mafia or you're town. (1) mod left a mafia member out. Mafia are already "masoned" and so won't need a mason with a partner. On the other hand, singling out scum may be dangerous to the game, so (2) mod left a townie out. This way the mafia have a chance to blend in and make themselves look town. I'd take the latter I think. I suspect because slow was left out that means he is more than likely town. But of course this is just me playing the mod and I have no other indiction that might help me with this conclusion, but from a mod standpoint this would make sense.
No, the reason that he has no partner is that he is forever alone. I mean, if he had a partner to talk to today then he wouldn't be be forever alone, so wouldn't he cease to exist or something?


Wouldn't this also be a very good meme for possibly being 3rd party, and my thoughts lean towards SK, but don't have much evidence to prove much, and if he is truly a SK then it would allow him to not have to worry about making some kind of slip up in a PM that would expose him and help a case be built around him.

Just my thoughts on why slow would be alone.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby sheepofdumb on Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:36 pm

There are so many things wrong with this post that I should FOS everyone who has seen it for skimming.

icedagger wrote:Right I've skimmed the thread now, and I've made an interesting discovery: 38 pages of solid internet memes can make you lose the will to live. I think this also explains 4chan.


Admission of skimming

icedagger wrote:Anyway, I've decided it's for the best that I claim since we almost certainly have quite a few town power roles and I don't want to kill them off. I'm Paranoid Parrot, town paranoid gun owner. Anyone who targets me at night will die.


No attempt at subtlety. This claim comes pretty much out of left field. It feels more like a cover than anything else.

icedagger wrote:Moving on, Vote Srike wolf. I'm honestly suprised he wasn't lynched on day one. He's claimed voteless townie- a role that actively hurts town even if he's telling the truth, since he can't vote scum but ups the number of people needed for a lynch.

I'm not at all convinced he is a townie though, for three reasons:
1) He originally voted someone, before remembering he was voteless. If the extent of my role was voteless townie, I think I would remember the voteless bit. If I were scum though... the more interesting part of my role might well lead me to forget I had no vote.
2) Would the mods really put a voteless townie in the game? A player who has very little ability to impact anything would be a real bastard role and likely promote inactivity, which brings me to my third point...
3) Strike wolf has been posting like a demon. He seems altogether too interested in the game for someone with such a crappy role.

Bearing all this in mind I'd say there's at least a 50% chance strike is scum. When you consider that even if he is town we're actually better off without him, I think he's a great lynch candidate.


And a super agressive push on Strike. 50% chance? You sound awfully sure for a PGO. Now is Strike dead weight? Likely but we can worry about that further down the road. I'd rather chase scum than dead weight this early on in the game. Lets not give the killers free night if we can help it. Vote icedagger
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Re: Memebase Mafia [29/32] Day 2 - I Own A Horse

Postby / on Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:39 am

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Re: Memebase Mafia [32/32] DAY 1 START! (Seeking subs)

Postby jonty125 on Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:01 am

icedagger wrote:Right I've skimmed the thread now, and I've made an interesting discovery: 38 pages of solid internet memes can make you lose the will to live. I think this also explains 4chan.

Anyway, I've decided it's for the best that I claim since we almost certainly have quite a few town power roles and I don't want to kill them off. I'm Paranoid Parrot, town paranoid gun owner. Anyone who targets me at night will die.

Moving on, Vote Srike wolf. I'm honestly suprised he wasn't lynched on day one. He's claimed voteless townie- a role that actively hurts town even if he's telling the truth, since he can't vote scum but ups the number of people needed for a lynch.

I'm not at all convinced he is a townie though, for three reasons:
1) He originally voted someone, before remembering he was voteless. If the extent of my role was voteless townie, I think I would remember the voteless bit. If I were scum though... the more interesting part of my role might well lead me to forget I had no vote.
2) Would the mods really put a voteless townie in the game? A player who has very little ability to impact anything would be a real bastard role and likely promote inactivity, which brings me to my third point...
3) Strike wolf has been posting like a demon. He seems altogether too interested in the game for someone with such a crappy role.

Bearing all this in mind I'd say there's at least a 50% chance strike is scum. When you consider that even if he is town we're actually better off without him, I think he's a great lynch candidate.


vote icedagger for admitting to skimming! and wanting us to lynch a townie (yes he maybe voteless but our #1 priority should be scum not 'worthless' townies.)
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Re: Memebase Mafia [29/32] Day 2 - I Own A Horse

Postby jonty125 on Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:01 am

OVER 9000!
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Re: Memebase Mafia [29/32] Day 2 - I Own A Horse

Postby dazza2008 on Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:13 am

shieldgenerator7 wrote:So it looks like dazza was hit by the pedobear lastnight. What exactly does your role do, Rod?


I told you. He attacks and molests you at night. The next day you cannot vote and the next night if you have a night action you can't use it.

If I could vote I would be voting that pedo right now :(
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Re: Memebase Mafia [29/32] Day 2 - I Own A Horse

Postby jonty125 on Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:30 am

dazza2008 wrote:
shieldgenerator7 wrote:So it looks like dazza was hit by the pedobear lastnight. What exactly does your role do, Rod?


I told you. He attacks and molests you at night. The next day you cannot vote and the next night if you have a night action you can't use it.

If I could vote I would be voting that pedo right now :(


I knew I forgot something with my last post (including my PR). I meant to give rodion a MAJOR FOS * OVER 9000!. But icedagger's post; I think is majorly scummy so it interrupted my thought process and I forgot about Rodion.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [29/32] Day 2 - I Own A Horse

Postby icedagger on Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:46 am

Bloody hell, I had expected the level of debate to be a bit higher than this.

jonty125 wrote:vote icedagger for admitting to skimming! and wanting us to lynch a townie (yes he maybe voteless but our #1 priority should be scum not 'worthless' townies.)


For someone who thinks skimming warrants a vote you don't seem to have actually read my post. Quite a bit of it outlines why I don't think strike wolf is a townie. Strike has the added bonus that even if he is town it's not a big loss.

As for the skiming part, which sheepfodumb and doomyoshi also use as a major justification for voting me- really? It's a 38 page thread, I didn't read every word of some of the walls of text discussing game mechanics. Judging by your willingness to ignore the entirety of the thread, and the majority of my post to jump on someone for using the word skim (in yoshi's case he doesn't even address anything else), it doesn't look like you've gleaned much from the bits I didn't read in full.

spiesr wrote:Also, THIS IS WIFOM!

Which part is wifom?

spiesr wrote:People go to 4 chan in order to lose the will to live?

I meant the majority of people on 4chan seem to have lost it :P

Sheepofdumb- you at least broke my post up but don't seem the least bit concerned with addressing my arguments.

The claim- it feels like cover? What? The player I replaced had no heat on him. The reason I claimed was because we likely have a number of town players with night actions. I don't expect it to prove my town credentials one way or the other.

The "super aggressive push" is because I genuinely believe strike is by far and away the obvious lynch. You cite it as if it's some kind of evidence for me being scum but don't give any reason why. The reality is I've raised my head above the parapet because I'm more concerned with a town win than my own survival, I don't really see how that can be construed as a scum tell.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [29/32] Day 2 - I Own A Horse

Postby icedagger on Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:59 am

Almost forgot.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [29/32] Day 2 - I Own A Horse

Postby dazza2008 on Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:31 am

Even if Rodion is town he is fucking us up. 1 less to vote each day and he could stop a power role at night. Luckily this time he did not as I am not a cop or doc but I can get info that could be usefull.
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Re: Memebase Mafia [29/32] Day 2 - I Own A Horse

Postby sensfan on Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:04 am

I really think that strike is an important player simply because of his experience. I think ice is pushing it, but I don't know....

His voteless townie claim is fishy but doesn't make sense. Why would he make such a lame and hopeless claim if he was mafia? It makes us seem like there is nothing to lose, giving a 'he's useless, we don't lose much if we kill him' attitude, so why would he take that risk? Does he think that the town will think that his experience is too much?

It's impossible to gain something from ckyrias' lynch on Day 1. We can't find out the scum because of the bandwagon on him (which I did join, quite rightly so) was 99% based on inactivity and disappearing. Is it possible that someone silenced ckyrias? It's a longshot but in this game like this we already know someone couldn't talk:

DoomYoshi wrote:I don't always post during the day, but when I do I always make sure everyone is day-masoned too!

Now that I can finally speak, I will post my initial thoughts later tonight.


but we didn't notice it. It might have been a scum strategy to silence the inactive, although that might have been a waste of a move.

I'm watching strike and ice, but I can be paranoid.

Oh and dazza:

dazza2008 wrote:If someone removed my right to vote today and my night action tonight, would they be likely to be town or mafia? Or could they be both?


Most likely scum for me, but could be some sort of super jailkeeper or a third-party person.

Just my two cents

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