How many of you now think Capitalism is flawed?

[john9blue]

so yeah, this is a really bad poll. you can't simplify an idea like capitalism to "good" or "bad". and there is no poll option pertaining to kittens. you are just bad at making polls...

[PLAYER57832]

Show where pure capitalism has existed, first.

[Phatscotty]

Show where pure capitalism has existed, first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylV8y_JZbuk

[BigBallinStalin]

Show where pure capitalism has existed, first.

Maybe in black markets.


All they need is a legitimate way to resolve situations of conflict by having access to the courts.

[BigBallinStalin]

The biggest flaw of our current Capitalist system is Socialism.

You're so dense that light bends around you.

When did you give up troll pictures?

So, it's not funny seeing Einstein say "Oh Snap" after an astronomy joke?

Ok, Phats, swipe yo EBT-EBT-EBT.

[PLAYER57832]

With the implosion of the western economies due to the banks, the heart of capitalism, going mad and broke in just 30 years of being deregulated to do what they do - make money.

Do you think that Capitalism is a good idea still?

Every system has it's flaws. Capitalism seems to be the best of the bunch when those flaws are taken into account, in my opinion.

Except, isn't the real flaw in insisting it has to be one or the other? Its like good and evil, you cannot have one without the other. Economically, you cannot have the total self-interest brought about by Capitalism without control, nor can you have the complete lack of individual incentive from communism or socialism. Instead, we need enough socialism to ensure that even those at the bottom are still allowed to be civilized, educated, human beings and yet, enough capitalism to ensure that people have incentives to move forward.

HOWEVER, this must be offset by the intelligence and reality of science, particularly when it comes to the environment. What's wrong today is that companies are allowed to pollute, sell damaging items up until it is absolutely proven that they cause harm. However, ths standard of proof requires is always so high that by the time things are limited, extreme damage has already occured. That goes beyond either communism or socialism, but is absolutely a necessary control on capitalism.

Also, for capitalism to truly work at all, for the masses, it has to be combined with good education. Without that, people are subject to control by whatever the powerful wish to claim.

[BigBallinStalin]

What incentive does the state have to provide schools without a nationalist stance?

[PLAYER57832]

What incentive does the state have to provide schools without a nationalist stance?

The state has no interest in and of itself. The state is just a framework of policies. It has no mind.

Those in power, of course DO have self-interest. Our system is supposed to be one that gives the average person power, albiet filtered through representatives. However, most means of individuals maintaining themselves apart from the extreme corporate infrastructure have been removed, so even individuals now tend to support the corporate will. Individuals are supposed to be the stop against too much power at the top, but corporations now effectively control both the sources of information and sources of income, plus means of getting into power at all but the most basic levels. This is one reason why failure to have real net nuetrality is so very harmful.

[cdbridges]

I think that capitalism is flawed because, even though it supports free enterprise and market selection of management practices and products, Capitalism only protects the most powerful people in our society. Those who are injured or ignorant fail to realise their full economic potential for society unless they are protected and educated.
My challenge is: What is a better economic system and why is it better?

[PLAYER57832]

I think that capitalism is flawed because, even though it supports free enterprise and market selection of management practices and products, Capitalism only protects the most powerful people in our society. Those who are injured or ignorant fail to realise their full economic potential for society unless they are protected and educated.
My challenge is: What is a better economic system and why is it better?

Good question, but several people have already answered... a combination of systems is best.

[BigBallinStalin]

What incentive does the state have to provide schools without a nationalist stance?

The state has no interest in and of itself. The state is just a framework of policies. It has no mind.

Those in power, of course DO have self-interest.

Well, duh. It's just easier to say "state" then say "political and bureaucratic actors and the many other individuals who are incorporated within the apparatus of the state."

So, the question at hand: what incentive does the state have to provide schools without a nationalist stance?


As far net neutrality is concerned, it's not possible in reality given human behavior, so... <shrugs>


At least with "BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA" corporations, or just private schools, there's competing ideas. With government schools, there's predominantly one general message--namely, developing a sense of nationalism, a.k.a. "The Empire Spirit."

[BigBallinStalin]

I think that capitalism is flawed because, even though it supports free enterprise and market selection of management practices and products, Capitalism only protects the most powerful people in our society. Those who are injured or ignorant fail to realise their full economic potential for society unless they are protected and educated.
My challenge is: What is a better economic system and why is it better?

LOLOLOLOL WHY SIZE 150???

"Capitalism" protects the most rich? Aren't you overlooking other factors--namely, the state?

[DangerBoy]

With the implosion of the western economies due to the banks, the heart of capitalism, going mad and broke in just 30 years of being deregulated to do what they do - make money.

Do you think that Capitalism is a good idea still?

It obviously isn't. If you had people creating wealth and caring for themselves instead of depending on entitlement programs the world would be a scary place.

[Phatscotty]

Without capitalism, how much money would you be able to redistribute?

[Timminz]

Without capitalism, how much money would you be able to redistribute?

All of it. You do understand the alternatives, don't you?

[PLAYER57832]

What incentive does the state have to provide schools without a nationalist stance?

The state has no interest in and of itself. The state is just a framework of policies. It has no mind.

Those in power, of course DO have self-interest.

Well, duh. It's just easier to say "state" then say "political and bureaucratic actors and the many other individuals who are incorporated within the apparatus of the state."

So, the question at hand: what incentive does the state have to provide schools without a nationalist stance

There is no such thing.

The incentive does not come from above, it comes from below.

As far net neutrality is concerned, it's not possible in reality given human behavior, so... <shrugs>

It is absolutely possible.

At least with "BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA" corporations, or just private schools, there's competing ideas. With government schools, there's predominantly one general message--namely, developing a sense of nationalism, a.k.a. "The Empire Spirit."

No, the imperialism is from the companies. Government schools, headed and supported by the people, educate. That is why the US had a superior educational system.