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Chariot of Fire wrote:As for GreecePwns.....yeah, what? A massive debt. Get a job you slacker.
Viceroy wrote:[The Biblical creation story] was written in a time when there was no way to confirm this fact and is in fact a statement of the facts.
General_Tao wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:
How will your morals react as you watch a country butcher itself?
How will you react when the next group of strongmen step in, shoot people, and tell everyone to shut up and get back to work?
Surely, there must be more intervention to satisfy one's lust for "righteousness."
I don't think the next group of strongmen is going to have the same type of leeway that Qaddafi had, the libyan people will just as easily rise against any future dictators, they are already armed after all.
General_Tao wrote:NATO only tipped the balance of power on the ground, Qaddafi couldn't have been overthrown without a large armed revolutionary movement on the ground. You had to have both of these elements because a poorly supplied and trained large revolutionary movement wouldn't have been able to overcome the regime's military superiority, you can't fight tanks and Migs in the desert with AK47s regardless of your numbers.
General_Tao wrote:As to Greecepns' point above, Iran's current government, warts and all is leagues ahead of the Qaddafi dictatorship. Their theocracy actually has a a good measure of popular support and their president probably is the poorest ruler in the Middle East, there aren't many presidents driving 30-yr old sedans in the region... Compare with the Qaddafi family's $100 billion + fortune.
This being said, if Iran's government becomes much more unpopular at home, they will also face regime change. So far their green revolution hasn't spread much outside of the middle class in Teheran but that could change in the future.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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Russian Federation Foreign Minister Dr. Sergey Lavarov, reacting today to the news that U.S. military forces killed Col. Qaddafi wrote:The UN Security Council mandate imposing a no-fly zone did not authorise NATO to carry out airstrikes in Libya.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=241668&start=200#p5349880
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=241668&start=200#p5349880
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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General_Tao wrote:US, french British and Italian imperialism? What about Canada, we flew 10% of the sorties, no fair!![]()
General_Tao wrote:Did you ever check out the DDR sci fi flicks from the 1960s/70s? Quality stuff. Star Treck (the original TV series) actually ripped off a lot of ideas from an early one called Silent Star, like the multicultural spaceship crew.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc3mFRKSeEY
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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Ray Rider wrote:Yes, I mean who is the West defending anyway? For all we know we're defending a future second Islamic theocracy such as Iran, which could end up being just as bad or worse than Gadaffi's regime. However if the rebels are seriously pushing for more freedom for all and representation in government, then great! Canada, France, and the UK are doing the right thing (the US is overextending itself and shouldn't be there in either case).
Ray Rider wrote:
And Saxi, you're looking awfully silly trying to stand up for [INSERT NATO PRESS RELEASE HERE]
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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qwert wrote:Wow you open mine eyes-Russia and China are colonial empires. Good that UK,France,Italy and USA never have colonial thought,and never violently repressed any other country in human history.
General Tao deserve big aplause for solve all these and open eye to all people who think opposite.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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qwert wrote:Wow you open mine eyes-Russia and China are colonial empires. Good that UK,France,Italy and USA never have colonial thought,and never violently repressed any other country in human history.
General Tao deserve big aplause for solve all these and open eye to all people who think opposite.
General_Tao wrote:qwert wrote:Wow you open mine eyes-Russia and China are colonial empires. Good that UK,France,Italy and USA never have colonial thought,and never violently repressed any other country in human history.
General Tao deserve big aplause for solve all these and open eye to all people who think opposite.
Newsflash qwert, it's 2011 and the UK France Italy don't have colonial empires. I mean if it was 1952 you'd have a point about Algeria or Indochina but to invoke imperialism for France or Italy in this millenium is beyond ridiculous.
Saxi, what russian circus is that dude from?
The civilians in USA are in danger. Russia/China need to bring democracy to the USA.
1st: Put a no fly zone.
2nd: Arm the civilians.
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3rd: Bomb all banks, schools, hospitals, airports, bridges, infrastructure etc.
4th: Bomb the civilians and blame the poor system fail.
5th: Capture, torture & kill the leader and place them in a public refrigerator for 4 days so the whole world can see his mutilated body and celebrate.
6th: Continue bombing some more, just in case."
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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