Kids will learn about murder sooner or later too. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to take kids on field trip to Folsom Prison?natty_dread wrote:
Kids learn about porn when they learn about porn. Is it that big a deal if they learn of it sooner?
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Kids will learn about murder sooner or later too. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to take kids on field trip to Folsom Prison?natty_dread wrote:
Kids learn about porn when they learn about porn. Is it that big a deal if they learn of it sooner?
THe problem is that if you don't stop asking your German, unicorn rainbow questions, I'ma gonna pound you with a hammer.MeDeFe wrote:Does this have to do with that adage about every problem looking like a nail when all you've got is a hammer?ViperOverLord wrote:squishyg wrote:On the surface it doesn't seem like the greatest idea to have a former porn star as a celebrity classroom reader, but I'm all for people improving their lives, so I think there's a way to spin this so its a lesson to kids. But yeah, in the age of Google, it's only a matter of hours before the kids start learning she did porn.
There will likely be kids that learn of porn earlier b/c of the event.
If so, what is the problem?
Ooooh, kinky!BigBallinStalin wrote:THe problem is that if you don't stop asking your German, unicorn rainbow questions, I'ma gonna pound you with a hammer.MeDeFe wrote:Does this have to do with that adage about every problem looking like a nail when all you've got is a hammer?ViperOverLord wrote:squishyg wrote:On the surface it doesn't seem like the greatest idea to have a former porn star as a celebrity classroom reader, but I'm all for people improving their lives, so I think there's a way to spin this so its a lesson to kids. But yeah, in the age of Google, it's only a matter of hours before the kids start learning she did porn.
There will likely be kids that learn of porn earlier b/c of the event.
If so, what is the problem?
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How is murder in any way equable with porn?ViperOverLord wrote:Kids will learn about murder sooner or later too. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to take kids on field trip to Folsom Prison?natty_dread wrote:
Kids learn about porn when they learn about porn. Is it that big a deal if they learn of it sooner?

Depends on your view point, both are morally corrupt.natty_dread wrote:How is murder in any way equable with porn?ViperOverLord wrote:Kids will learn about murder sooner or later too. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to take kids on field trip to Folsom Prison?natty_dread wrote:
Kids learn about porn when they learn about porn. Is it that big a deal if they learn of it sooner?
How is porn morally corrupt?keiths31 wrote:Depends on your view point, both are morally corrupt.natty_dread wrote:How is murder in any way equable with porn?ViperOverLord wrote:Kids will learn about murder sooner or later too. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to take kids on field trip to Folsom Prison?natty_dread wrote:
Kids learn about porn when they learn about porn. Is it that big a deal if they learn of it sooner?

I have no issues with porn. My wife and I enjoy it. I was just stating that based on your moral stance, porn is wrong, as is murder. But again, I have no issue with porn.natty_dread wrote:How is porn morally corrupt?keiths31 wrote:Depends on your view point, both are morally corrupt.natty_dread wrote:How is murder in any way equable with porn?ViperOverLord wrote:Kids will learn about murder sooner or later too. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to take kids on field trip to Folsom Prison?natty_dread wrote:
Kids learn about porn when they learn about porn. Is it that big a deal if they learn of it sooner?
Objective morality isn't corrupt because objective morality doesn't exist.Aradhus wrote:How is morality corrupt?
SmallBallsStalin wrote:BUT TEH MORAL PLURALIZM
What the f*ck are you talking about? My moral stance says porn is wrong? How do you get to that conclusion?keiths31 wrote:I have no issues with porn. My wife and I enjoy it. I was just stating that based on your moral stance, porn is wrong, as is murder. But again, I have no issue with porn.

Nathan's been on a short fuse lately!natty_dread wrote:What the f*ck are you talking about? My moral stance says porn is wrong? How do you get to that conclusion?keiths31 wrote:I have no issues with porn. My wife and I enjoy it. I was just stating that based on your moral stance, porn is wrong, as is murder. But again, I have no issue with porn.

Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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I never said your stance on porn was wrong. What are YOU talking about?natty_dread wrote:What the f*ck are you talking about? My moral stance says porn is wrong? How do you get to that conclusion?keiths31 wrote:I have no issues with porn. My wife and I enjoy it. I was just stating that based on your moral stance, porn is wrong, as is murder. But again, I have no issue with porn.
I replied that; based on ones beliefs, both are morally corrupt. i never said they were my beliefs nor did I say they were yours. So calm down. Go have a sauna and relax.How is murder in any way equable with porn?
Why couldn't they identify her as an actress?saxitoxin wrote:Saxi is no prude but I'm opposed to this.
I would be okay if she were tutoring students, etc., but - from what I read - the point of "Read Across America" isn't to read to students (these sessions happen during class time - IIRC, most American school teachers are literate and capable of reading to their own students) but to have people in aspirational occupations read to students - e.g. actors, athletes, astronauts, politicians (?), etc. - to show you need to read to "follow your dreams" and all that crap.
If the emphasis, therefore, is less on the actual act of reading and more on presenting a person in an aspirational occupation, one has to - logically - agree Grey's presence was either:
However, her presence was definitely positive for Grey. She's been trying to legitimize her career and get out of porn with really marginal success and obviously her publicist thought volunteering for a whopping 45 minutes doing this would help.
- (1) Negative - students shouldn't aspire to be MMMMFFF gangbang specialists
(2) Neutral - Grey isn't identified to students by her occupation negating the actual purpose of the program
She appeared in 4 episodes of the HBO series Entourage in which she played ... a porn star.jimboston wrote:Why couldn't they identify her as an actress?saxitoxin wrote:Saxi is no prude but I'm opposed to this.
I would be okay if she were tutoring students, etc., but - from what I read - the point of "Read Across America" isn't to read to students (these sessions happen during class time - IIRC, most American school teachers are literate and capable of reading to their own students) but to have people in aspirational occupations read to students - e.g. actors, athletes, astronauts, politicians (?), etc. - to show you need to read to "follow your dreams" and all that crap.
If the emphasis, therefore, is less on the actual act of reading and more on presenting a person in an aspirational occupation, one has to - logically - agree Grey's presence was either:
However, her presence was definitely positive for Grey. She's been trying to legitimize her career and get out of porn with really marginal success and obviously her publicist thought volunteering for a whopping 45 minutes doing this would help.
- (1) Negative - students shouldn't aspire to be MMMMFFF gangbang specialists
(2) Neutral - Grey isn't identified to students by her occupation negating the actual purpose of the program
She is a star on the HBO series... so although she's also a slut, it appears she has made the transition to successful actress.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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Yes... and your point???saxitoxin wrote: She appeared in 4 episodes of the HBO series Entourage in which she played ... a porn star.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qgk3vUVe8o
This is like Kobe Bryant playing himself in a tv show. Just because he's in a tv show doesn't mean he's an actor. He's a basketball player.jimboston wrote:Yes... and your point???saxitoxin wrote: She appeared in 4 episodes of the HBO series Entourage in which she played ... a porn star.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qgk3vUVe8o
Mark Walhberg plays a porn star in a movie too.... does this make him a porn-star?
No... it's more like a retired Michael Jordan playing some sort of basketball player (but not himself) on TV.Army of GOD wrote:This is like Kobe Bryant playing himself in a tv show. Just because he's in a tv show doesn't mean he's an actor. He's a basketball player.jimboston wrote:Yes... and your point???saxitoxin wrote: She appeared in 4 episodes of the HBO series Entourage in which she played ... a porn star.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qgk3vUVe8o
Mark Walhberg plays a porn star in a movie too.... does this make him a porn-star?
No.Army of GOD wrote:According to your logic, because I unclogged a toilet once (too many of saxi's brauts) I'm a plumber, because I wrote some shitty computer programs in CS class I'm a programmer and because I jumped rope a few times means I'm a jump roper.
Alright. Es once paid me to have sex with her because saxi's dick is too small.jimboston wrote:No.Army of GOD wrote:According to your logic, because I unclogged a toilet once (too many of saxi's brauts) I'm a plumber, because I wrote some shitty computer programs in CS class I'm a programmer and because I jumped rope a few times means I'm a jump roper.
Because you didn't get paid to unclog that toilet or write that shitty CS program in a class.
If you got money to jump that rope... then yes... you'd be a jump roper!
Sasha Gray played herself in Entourage.jimboston wrote:No... it's more like a retired Michael Jordan playing some sort of basketball player (but not himself) on TV.Army of GOD wrote:This is like Kobe Bryant playing himself in a tv show. Just because he's in a tv show doesn't mean he's an actor. He's a basketball player.jimboston wrote:Yes... and your point???saxitoxin wrote: She appeared in 4 episodes of the HBO series Entourage in which she played ... a porn star.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qgk3vUVe8o
Mark Walhberg plays a porn star in a movie too.... does this make him a porn-star?
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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No because, IIRC, you had to give her a refund after you didn't meet your "30 Seconds or Your Money Back" guarantee.Army of GOD wrote:Alright. Es once paid me to have sex with her because saxi's dick is too small.jimboston wrote:No.Army of GOD wrote:According to your logic, because I unclogged a toilet once (too many of saxi's brauts) I'm a plumber, because I wrote some shitty computer programs in CS class I'm a programmer and because I jumped rope a few times means I'm a jump roper.
Because you didn't get paid to unclog that toilet or write that shitty CS program in a class.
If you got money to jump that rope... then yes... you'd be a jump roper!
Does that make me a prostitute?
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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It's not my fault she didn't last longer than 30 seconds.saxitoxin wrote:No because, IIRC, you had to give her a refund after you didn't meet your "30 Seconds or Your Money Back" guarantee.Army of GOD wrote:Alright. Es once paid me to have sex with her because saxi's dick is too small.jimboston wrote:No.Army of GOD wrote:According to your logic, because I unclogged a toilet once (too many of saxi's brauts) I'm a plumber, because I wrote some shitty computer programs in CS class I'm a programmer and because I jumped rope a few times means I'm a jump roper.
Because you didn't get paid to unclog that toilet or write that shitty CS program in a class.
If you got money to jump that rope... then yes... you'd be a jump roper!
Does that make me a prostitute?
Don't pretend I'm arguing any sort of moral equivalency between murder and porn.natty_dread wrote:How is murder in any way equable with porn?ViperOverLord wrote:Kids will learn about murder sooner or later too. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to take kids on field trip to Folsom Prison?natty_dread wrote:
Kids learn about porn when they learn about porn. Is it that big a deal if they learn of it sooner?