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natty_dread wrote:
Kids learn about porn when they learn about porn. Is it that big a deal if they learn of it sooner?
Kids will learn about murder sooner or later too. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to take kids on field trip to Folsom Prison?
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squishyg wrote:On the surface it doesn't seem like the greatest idea to have a former porn star as a celebrity classroom reader, but I'm all for people improving their lives, so I think there's a way to spin this so its a lesson to kids. But yeah, in the age of Google, it's only a matter of hours before the kids start learning she did porn.
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There will likely be kids that learn of porn earlier b/c of the event.
Does this have to do with that adage about every problem looking like a nail when all you've got is a hammer?

If so, what is the problem?
THe problem is that if you don't stop asking your German, unicorn rainbow questions, I'ma gonna pound you with a hammer.
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BigBallinStalin wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:
squishyg wrote:On the surface it doesn't seem like the greatest idea to have a former porn star as a celebrity classroom reader, but I'm all for people improving their lives, so I think there's a way to spin this so its a lesson to kids. But yeah, in the age of Google, it's only a matter of hours before the kids start learning she did porn.
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There will likely be kids that learn of porn earlier b/c of the event.
Does this have to do with that adage about every problem looking like a nail when all you've got is a hammer?

If so, what is the problem?
THe problem is that if you don't stop asking your German, unicorn rainbow questions, I'ma gonna pound you with a hammer.
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ViperOverLord wrote:
natty_dread wrote:
Kids learn about porn when they learn about porn. Is it that big a deal if they learn of it sooner?
Kids will learn about murder sooner or later too. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to take kids on field trip to Folsom Prison?
How is murder in any way equable with porn?
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natty_dread wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:
natty_dread wrote:
Kids learn about porn when they learn about porn. Is it that big a deal if they learn of it sooner?
Kids will learn about murder sooner or later too. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to take kids on field trip to Folsom Prison?
How is murder in any way equable with porn?
Depends on your view point, both are morally corrupt.
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keiths31 wrote:
natty_dread wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:
natty_dread wrote:
Kids learn about porn when they learn about porn. Is it that big a deal if they learn of it sooner?
Kids will learn about murder sooner or later too. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to take kids on field trip to Folsom Prison?
How is murder in any way equable with porn?
Depends on your view point, both are morally corrupt.
How is porn morally corrupt?
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natty_dread wrote:
keiths31 wrote:
natty_dread wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:
natty_dread wrote:
Kids learn about porn when they learn about porn. Is it that big a deal if they learn of it sooner?
Kids will learn about murder sooner or later too. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to take kids on field trip to Folsom Prison?
How is murder in any way equable with porn?
Depends on your view point, both are morally corrupt.
How is porn morally corrupt?
I have no issues with porn. My wife and I enjoy it. I was just stating that based on your moral stance, porn is wrong, as is murder. But again, I have no issue with porn.
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How is murder morally corrupt?
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Aradhus wrote:How is morality corrupt?
Objective morality isn't corrupt because objective morality doesn't exist.

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keiths31 wrote:I have no issues with porn. My wife and I enjoy it. I was just stating that based on your moral stance, porn is wrong, as is murder. But again, I have no issue with porn.
What the f*ck are you talking about? My moral stance says porn is wrong? How do you get to that conclusion?
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natty_dread wrote:
keiths31 wrote:I have no issues with porn. My wife and I enjoy it. I was just stating that based on your moral stance, porn is wrong, as is murder. But again, I have no issue with porn.
What the f*ck are you talking about? My moral stance says porn is wrong? How do you get to that conclusion?
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natty_dread wrote:
keiths31 wrote:I have no issues with porn. My wife and I enjoy it. I was just stating that based on your moral stance, porn is wrong, as is murder. But again, I have no issue with porn.
What the f*ck are you talking about? My moral stance says porn is wrong? How do you get to that conclusion?
I never said your stance on porn was wrong. What are YOU talking about?

You asked
How is murder in any way equable with porn?
I replied that; based on ones beliefs, both are morally corrupt. i never said they were my beliefs nor did I say they were yours. So calm down. Go have a sauna and relax.
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saxitoxin wrote:Saxi is no prude but I'm opposed to this.

I would be okay if she were tutoring students, etc., but - from what I read - the point of "Read Across America" isn't to read to students (these sessions happen during class time - IIRC, most American school teachers are literate and capable of reading to their own students) but to have people in aspirational occupations read to students - e.g. actors, athletes, astronauts, politicians (?), etc. - to show you need to read to "follow your dreams" and all that crap.

If the emphasis, therefore, is less on the actual act of reading and more on presenting a person in an aspirational occupation, one has to - logically - agree Grey's presence was either:
  • (1) Negative - students shouldn't aspire to be MMMMFFF gangbang specialists

    (2) Neutral - Grey isn't identified to students by her occupation negating the actual purpose of the program
However, her presence was definitely positive for Grey. She's been trying to legitimize her career and get out of porn with really marginal success and obviously her publicist thought volunteering for a whopping 45 minutes doing this would help.
Why couldn't they identify her as an actress?

She is a star on the HBO series... so although she's also a slut, it appears she has made the transition to successful actress.
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jimboston wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Saxi is no prude but I'm opposed to this.

I would be okay if she were tutoring students, etc., but - from what I read - the point of "Read Across America" isn't to read to students (these sessions happen during class time - IIRC, most American school teachers are literate and capable of reading to their own students) but to have people in aspirational occupations read to students - e.g. actors, athletes, astronauts, politicians (?), etc. - to show you need to read to "follow your dreams" and all that crap.

If the emphasis, therefore, is less on the actual act of reading and more on presenting a person in an aspirational occupation, one has to - logically - agree Grey's presence was either:
  • (1) Negative - students shouldn't aspire to be MMMMFFF gangbang specialists

    (2) Neutral - Grey isn't identified to students by her occupation negating the actual purpose of the program
However, her presence was definitely positive for Grey. She's been trying to legitimize her career and get out of porn with really marginal success and obviously her publicist thought volunteering for a whopping 45 minutes doing this would help.
Why couldn't they identify her as an actress?

She is a star on the HBO series... so although she's also a slut, it appears she has made the transition to successful actress.
She appeared in 4 episodes of the HBO series Entourage in which she played ... a porn star.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qgk3vUVe8o
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saxitoxin wrote: She appeared in 4 episodes of the HBO series Entourage in which she played ... a porn star.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qgk3vUVe8o
Yes... and your point???

Mark Walhberg plays a porn star in a movie too.... does this make him a porn-star?
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jimboston wrote:
saxitoxin wrote: She appeared in 4 episodes of the HBO series Entourage in which she played ... a porn star.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qgk3vUVe8o
Yes... and your point???

Mark Walhberg plays a porn star in a movie too.... does this make him a porn-star?
This is like Kobe Bryant playing himself in a tv show. Just because he's in a tv show doesn't mean he's an actor. He's a basketball player.
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According to your logic, because I unclogged a toilet once (too many of saxi's brauts) I'm a plumber, because I wrote some shitty computer programs in CS class I'm a programmer and because I jumped rope a few times means I'm a jump roper.
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Army of GOD wrote:
jimboston wrote:
saxitoxin wrote: She appeared in 4 episodes of the HBO series Entourage in which she played ... a porn star.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qgk3vUVe8o
Yes... and your point???

Mark Walhberg plays a porn star in a movie too.... does this make him a porn-star?
This is like Kobe Bryant playing himself in a tv show. Just because he's in a tv show doesn't mean he's an actor. He's a basketball player.
No... it's more like a retired Michael Jordan playing some sort of basketball player (but not himself) on TV.

He's still a former NBA Star.

... but now he's also and actor. Especially if he did it several times... not just a one-shot cameo. Now if he does another TV show or movie where he plays something other than a basketball player... that's even better.

However... the Entourage gig is a legit acting gig. Can't take that away from her.
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Army of GOD wrote:According to your logic, because I unclogged a toilet once (too many of saxi's brauts) I'm a plumber, because I wrote some shitty computer programs in CS class I'm a programmer and because I jumped rope a few times means I'm a jump roper.
No.

Because you didn't get paid to unclog that toilet or write that shitty CS program in a class.

If you got money to jump that rope... then yes... you'd be a jump roper!
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jimboston wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:According to your logic, because I unclogged a toilet once (too many of saxi's brauts) I'm a plumber, because I wrote some shitty computer programs in CS class I'm a programmer and because I jumped rope a few times means I'm a jump roper.
No.

Because you didn't get paid to unclog that toilet or write that shitty CS program in a class.

If you got money to jump that rope... then yes... you'd be a jump roper!
Alright. Es once paid me to have sex with her because saxi's dick is too small.

Does that make me a prostitute?
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jimboston wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:
jimboston wrote:
saxitoxin wrote: She appeared in 4 episodes of the HBO series Entourage in which she played ... a porn star.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qgk3vUVe8o
Yes... and your point???

Mark Walhberg plays a porn star in a movie too.... does this make him a porn-star?
This is like Kobe Bryant playing himself in a tv show. Just because he's in a tv show doesn't mean he's an actor. He's a basketball player.
No... it's more like a retired Michael Jordan playing some sort of basketball player (but not himself) on TV.
Sasha Gray played herself in Entourage.

She was credited: "Sasha Gray as Herself."
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Army of GOD wrote:
jimboston wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:According to your logic, because I unclogged a toilet once (too many of saxi's brauts) I'm a plumber, because I wrote some shitty computer programs in CS class I'm a programmer and because I jumped rope a few times means I'm a jump roper.
No.

Because you didn't get paid to unclog that toilet or write that shitty CS program in a class.

If you got money to jump that rope... then yes... you'd be a jump roper!
Alright. Es once paid me to have sex with her because saxi's dick is too small.

Does that make me a prostitute?
No because, IIRC, you had to give her a refund after you didn't meet your "30 Seconds or Your Money Back" guarantee.
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saxitoxin wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:
jimboston wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:According to your logic, because I unclogged a toilet once (too many of saxi's brauts) I'm a plumber, because I wrote some shitty computer programs in CS class I'm a programmer and because I jumped rope a few times means I'm a jump roper.
No.

Because you didn't get paid to unclog that toilet or write that shitty CS program in a class.

If you got money to jump that rope... then yes... you'd be a jump roper!
Alright. Es once paid me to have sex with her because saxi's dick is too small.

Does that make me a prostitute?
No because, IIRC, you had to give her a refund after you didn't meet your "30 Seconds or Your Money Back" guarantee.
It's not my fault she didn't last longer than 30 seconds.
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natty_dread wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:
natty_dread wrote:
Kids learn about porn when they learn about porn. Is it that big a deal if they learn of it sooner?
Kids will learn about murder sooner or later too. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to take kids on field trip to Folsom Prison?
How is murder in any way equable with porn?
Don't pretend I'm arguing any sort of moral equivalency between murder and porn.

The idea of kids and porn in any capacity is an atrocious concept to parents as is criminal level violence. Therefore, they don't want their kids hanging out with porn stars or criminals.
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