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Re: THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...

Postby Swifte on Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:28 am

Aaarrrrggh and myself are 20 somethings, think we'd make your list.
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Re: CC's most intelligent 20 Somethings...

Postby Bones2484 on Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:05 pm

greenoaks wrote:what does 44 have to do with rank = intelligence, run of bad dice = less intelligent than yesterday?


It has everything to do with this thread. Since you are 44, you don't qualify for the top scores under 30.
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Re: THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...

Postby DiM on Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:16 pm

"under 30" translates as "people with a win percentage under 30" not as "people under the age of 30"

that being said it still has nothing to do with intelligence.
in fact if you assume a high score = high intelligence, by selecting only people with a win % under 30 you basically weed out the smartest ones.

imagine a guy with 4000 points that has a win % of 35 and he plays only 6p games. that's a bloody great player in my opinion and yet he would not be in this poll despite being obviously higher ranked than some other guy that plays 6p games and has a win percentage of 20-30%.

anyway this top just like most of the tops in the forums is created in such a manner that it allows the creator of the top to be featured in it.

it's like me making a top: the most intelligent, handsome and high ranked players that have made at least 6 maps and are born in the sign of aries.
yay, i'm ranked #1 in that top. =D>
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Re: THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...

Postby Bones2484 on Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:17 pm

DiM wrote:some ridiculous rant


You do realize that she changed the name of this to take out the word "intelligence" just to avoid this very rant, don't you?
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Re: THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...

Postby DiM on Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:18 pm

Bones2484 wrote:
DiM wrote:some ridiculous rant


You do realize that she changed the name of this to take out the word "intelligence" just to avoid this very rant, don't you?


you realize that the first post of the thread is still saying this is a top of the most intelligent 20 somethings, don't you? :roll:
so before you categorize my comments as ridiculous you might actually want to fully read them first and then double check your comments for signs of stupidity.


also, my rant was also about how the poll is created in such a manner that it excludes better players:

imagine a guy with 4000 points that has a win % of 35 and he plays only 6p games. that's a bloody great player in my opinion and yet he would not be in this poll despite being obviously higher ranked than some other guy that plays 6p games and has a win percentage of 20-30%.
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Re: THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...

Postby john9blue on Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:23 pm

any list that calls joecoolfrog "intelligent" is bound to have at least a few serious problems
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Re: THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...

Postby Bones2484 on Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:54 pm

DiM wrote:you realize that the first post of the thread is still saying this is a top of the most intelligent 20 somethings, don't you? :roll:


Even though the header of the post clearly says "The 14 BEST CC PLAYERS in their 20's..." and the title of the post says "THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...". Feel free to quote from the first post where it says that the list is the "most intelligent 20 somethings". You can't as it says "there ARE a few really intelligent 20 somethings" but it makes no claim that they are the most intelligent.

DiM wrote:also, my rant was also about how the poll is created in such a manner that it excludes better players


Your rant is pointless as the list in this thread has a qualifier of being the best scores by players in the 20s. It specifically excludes higher ranked players that are over 30 to show some interesting data. I don't understand why you are so against this data? Are you upset that you don't qualify since you are 47? Is your internet ego hurt so much that you need to talk down a thread since you don't qualify?
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Re: THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...

Postby Robinette on Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:17 am

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Aradhus wrote:The people on this list might be smarter, younger and better at CC than me, but I bet I'd beat them at Rock-paper-scissors. So there. Yeargh!


john9blue wrote:people get trolled by the premise of this thread
that's pretty impressive


Bones2484 wrote:This whole thread is stunning.


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Re: THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...

Postby Crazyirishman on Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:28 am

I believe Robinette should get an GA medal for creating such a clever trolling thread in GD. Then she renamed it to respark the fire as so as the thread stopped trolling itself. Pure fucking genius
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Re: THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...

Postby DiM on Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:17 am

Bones2484 wrote:
DiM wrote:you realize that the first post of the thread is still saying this is a top of the most intelligent 20 somethings, don't you? :roll:


Even though the header of the post clearly says "The 14 BEST CC PLAYERS in their 20's..." and the title of the post says "THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...". Feel free to quote from the first post where it says that the list is the "most intelligent 20 somethings". You can't as it says "there ARE a few really intelligent 20 somethings" but it makes no claim that they are the most intelligent.


you failed yet again.

But there ARE a few really intelligent 20 somethings here at CC...

And being that this is my 5th year here, I think I am well qualified to determine who they are...
So here's my list...


this is from the first quote and it clearly says that the list represents the few really intelligent 20 somethings on CC.


Bones2484 wrote:
DiM wrote:also, my rant was also about how the poll is created in such a manner that it excludes better players


Your rant is pointless as the list in this thread has a qualifier of being the best scores by players in the 20s. It specifically excludes higher ranked players that are over 30 to show some interesting data. I don't understand why you are so against this data? Are you upset that you don't qualify since you are 47? Is your internet ego hurt so much that you need to talk down a thread since you don't qualify?


and now you just insist to persist in failure.
it's not about me getting in the top or not. i do not even care for the score as i believe it's complete bull and this is a fact i have stated numerous times.

in case you haven't realised so far the 20 somethings is about the people that play mostly 6p games. an win % of 16.66 is average so if you have 20-30% it means you're quite good. if you also have a high score it also means you generally play people close to your level otherwise you wouldn't be able to maintain/increase that high score so you're truly worthy of being in a top.

now, my rant was that a player that enjoys only 6p games (just like the ones in the top) and has a bloody great win percentage of over 30 and an even higher score than most of the people in the top, would not be accepted because the top is created from some false premises.

it's like saying you want to make a top of the greatest basketball players with a ppg average of 20 something.
you'll end up with a pretty nifty top but you'll be missing the greatest ever player (mj) just because he has a 30.1 average.

if you still don't get it then i'm afraid i'll have to give up explaining this to you. i could resort to charts and graph pies but i'm afraid there's very little hope.
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Re: THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:20 am

DiM wrote:if you still don't get it then i'm afraid i'll have to give up explaining this to you. i could resort to charts and graph pies but i'm afraid there's very little hope.

I'd actually like to see some charts and pie graphs.


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Re: THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...

Postby DiM on Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:23 am

AndyDufresne wrote:
DiM wrote:if you still don't get it then i'm afraid i'll have to give up explaining this to you. i could resort to charts and graph pies but i'm afraid there's very little hope.

I'd actually like to see some charts and pie graphs.


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here you go.
a banana pie chart

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Re: THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...

Postby tdans on Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:31 am

DiM wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:
DiM wrote:if you still don't get it then i'm afraid i'll have to give up explaining this to you. i could resort to charts and graph pies but i'm afraid there's very little hope.

I'd actually like to see some charts and pie graphs.


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here you go.
a banana pie chart

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that pie looks kinda gross....
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Re: THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...

Postby DiM on Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:32 am

tdans wrote:
DiM wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:
DiM wrote:if you still don't get it then i'm afraid i'll have to give up explaining this to you. i could resort to charts and graph pies but i'm afraid there's very little hope.

I'd actually like to see some charts and pie graphs.


--Andy



here you go.
a banana pie chart

Image

that pie looks kinda gross....


probably that's why most of it is not eaten 8-[
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Re: THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:46 am

That baked good looks pietiful.


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Re: THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...

Postby Bones2484 on Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:02 pm

DiM wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:
DiM wrote:you realize that the first post of the thread is still saying this is a top of the most intelligent 20 somethings, don't you? :roll:


Even though the header of the post clearly says "The 14 BEST CC PLAYERS in their 20's..." and the title of the post says "THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...". Feel free to quote from the first post where it says that the list is the "most intelligent 20 somethings". You can't as it says "there ARE a few really intelligent 20 somethings" but it makes no claim that they are the most intelligent.


you failed yet again.

this is from the first quote and it clearly says that the list represents the few really intelligent 20 somethings on CC.


Actually, you have now completely changed your argument and I would completely agree with what you are saying now. First you said that the list was the most intelligent 20 somethings and disagreed that these are the most intelligent. Now you are saying that the list contains a few intelligent 20 somethings which is quite different from the most. I even colored your two arguments in the above quote so that even you could figure out where you changed your argument.

Not my fault you can't decide what you are arguing!


DiM wrote:More inane ranting


I don't get your point because you don't have one. This list specifically qualifies the parameters of rank by those under 30. In your example, MJ would justifiably be excluded because he doesn't qualify for the list. This list is not trying to decide the best players of Conquer Club. It is trying to find the best players under 30, and it succeeds in doing so.

Please tell me how you would disagree with this statement: "Robinette's thread succeeds in showing the highest ranked players under 30."
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Re: THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...

Postby DiM on Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:17 pm

Bones2484 wrote:
DiM wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:
DiM wrote:you realize that the first post of the thread is still saying this is a top of the most intelligent 20 somethings, don't you? :roll:


Even though the header of the post clearly says "The 14 BEST CC PLAYERS in their 20's..." and the title of the post says "THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...". Feel free to quote from the first post where it says that the list is the "most intelligent 20 somethings". You can't as it says "there ARE a few really intelligent 20 somethings" but it makes no claim that they are the most intelligent.


you failed yet again.

this is from the first quote and it clearly says that the list represents the few really intelligent 20 somethings on CC.


Actually, you have now completely changed your argument and I would completely agree with what you are saying now. First you said that the list was the most intelligent 20 somethings and disagreed that these are the most intelligent. Now you are saying that the list contains a few intelligent 20 somethings which is quite different from the most. I even colored your two arguments in the above quote so that even you could figure out where you changed your argument.

Not my fault you can't decide what you are arguing!


not my fault you aren't intelligent enough to realise the sheer stupidity of what you just said :lol:
if it weren't such a long post i'd put it in my sig.

your profile says your age is 27. so there are 2 options here:
A: you're in fact 8 years old and never studied grammar
B: you really are 27 but never attended school.

otherwise i can't really understand how you could put the words you highlighted on the same grammatical level :roll:

cheers man, you've been fun, honestly.
i'll stop now before you make an even bigger fool of yourself :lol:

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Bones2484 wrote:I don't get your point because you don't have one. This list specifically qualifies the parameters of rank by those under 30. In your example, MJ would justifiably be excluded because he doesn't qualify for the list. This list is not trying to decide the best players of Conquer Club. It is trying to find the best players under 30, and it succeeds in doing so.


thanks for confirming what i already said before:

DiM wrote:anyway this top just like most of the tops in the forums is created in such a manner that it allows the creator of the top to be featured in it.
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Re: THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...

Postby pickleofdoom on Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:18 pm

DiM wrote:imagine a guy with 4000 points that has a win % of 35 and he plays only 6p games.


That is quite a feat of imagination.

(Looking at the current list of players over 4000 points I see that team games with lower ranking team mates is the favourite settings, except for one player who has a load of 1v1 city mogul games vs beginners)
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Re: THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...

Postby Bones2484 on Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:27 pm

DiM wrote:Blah blah


So you're just going to admit that you don't have an argument by ignoring my questions and resorting to insults? Fair enough.
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Re: THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...

Postby DiM on Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:30 pm

Bones2484 wrote:
DiM wrote:Blah blah


So you're just going to admit that you don't have an argument by ignoring my questions? Fair enough.



i've responded to your questions.
my answer was: http://www.englishgrammar.org/
study that, realise that you whole post is invalid and you lived for 27 years not knowing the grammar of your own language. cry in shame, thank me for opening your eyes.
fair enough? :roll:
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Re: THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...

Postby Timminz on Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:32 pm

I'm a firm believer that there are few greater forms of entertainment available in these fora, than to read the bleatings of a butt-hurt map maker.
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Re: THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...

Postby Bones2484 on Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:33 pm

Don't forget, I'm not the one that misread "a few" to be "the most".

Also, thank you for finally admitting that this thread succeeds in finding the best ranked players under 30. I'm glad we got that out of the way and can concentrate on more important things.
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Re: THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...

Postby DiM on Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:51 pm

Bones2484 wrote:Don't forget, I'm not the one that misread "a few" to be "the most".


no you're the one that didn't know the grammatical difference between the terms.

"a top of the most intelligent"

here, most means highly intelligent, really intelligent very intelligent. it doesn't mean many. so it's not about quantity. ok? are we clear so far? good.

"a few really intelligent"

here few refers to quantity.

so your whole argument is completely void because you compared a quantitative term with a non-quantitative one.

if you still can't realise your mistake i'm sorry but i'm not the one insulting you, you're insulting yourself simply by posting.

this is my last reply to you on this matter. take my advice, realise your mistake and brush up on your grammar.
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Re: THE BEST CC PLAYERS UNDER 30...

Postby Timminz on Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:58 pm

It's okay to admit to being wrong once in a while, DiM.



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