New Conqueror GLG Grats!!

[Chariot of Fire]

I'd have thought anyone with a modicum of intellect would have done a background check (esp on a Conqueror) before fawning all over him with undeserved praise.

One only has to look at GLG's posting history to see where his time and attention are devoted - and to glean who he is/was.

The thing that strikes me is after only 5 weeks he was already actively posting in the C&A forum (and regularly after that). It took me over a year to discover/bother with that section of CC.

What's the expression? "It takes one to know one"

Yeah David.

[danryan]

Lame. That pretty much sums up my view of the whole thing. The scoring system has been distorted for a long time, but say what you want about Blitz and Herpes, they could flat out play any style of play, and play it well. Hoekstra? Not so sure since I've never seen him in any kind of game. I'm not sure if I've even played him before.

[sdh]

Why would KORT want him?

[Evolution299]

What a 'farmer'. Only plays speed/freestyle city mogul against low ranks. Introduced my mate to the game back in 2009 and he'd played a few games so had a rank. He comes back 2 years later and about 5 minutes after he'd logged on he had a PM from this guy asking if he wanted to play one of his free speed games.

Needless to say I told him to ignore it. This is bad for the site

This, in a nutshell.

Do we as a community want what is good for the site, or do we sit idly back not saying a word whilst some guy screws the system? Sure it's fine for those established players who aren't directly affected by GLG's games (though it does make a mockery of the scoreboard) and it will be those people you see writing 'Congrats' on his wall or in this thread. You won't however be witnessing any "Fair play to you" comments from the dozens of inexperienced players this charlatan has alienated from the site.

Why can't people see this? Why doesn't everyone see the fraud for who he is and point a finger at him? His code of conduct is indefensible as far as I'm concerned, and "It's not against CC Rules" frankly doesn't cut any mustard with me. It's not against the law for me to spit in my guests' food at the dinner table, yet I wouldn't even consider such behaviour.

GLG, formerly the member known as---, has oft quoted in his defence [to paraphrase] "Oh I've done a lot for the site, teaching noobs how to play properly and setting up many tournaments". Yeah right! Sorry to sound cynical but these quick 1v1 tourneys (for sergeant ranks and lower) would be a great way to find fresh meat to farm. Something tells me our 'Conqueror' is not the most altruistic person on the site.

I come on here, as I expect the majority do, to enjoy a game on a level playing field. Why entertain/applaud/reward the efforts of someone who is obviously hell-bent on personal gain so that he may stand atop a pedestal and say "Look at me!" Throw tomatoes at the scoundrel I say.

To quote sjnap:

It needs discipline and great skills to get there

It should, but unfortunately in Gettinhed's case it once again proves that it doesn't.

To all his supporters - you are either blind, foolish, or you condone the use of such tactics (maybe because in part you'd do the same).

To all his detractors - I raise my glass. Happy New Year, to making CC a better place in 2012 and beyond.

CoF

I knew a ___ growing up. Weasily little guy that always wore a black cape to school. We always hoped that it was because he might have liked Batman, but nope, he just like to wear a cape. The sad thing is that this might have been acceptable in elementary school and he was 6, but this was high school and he was 16.

Congrats to our Used Car Salesman GLG on his tremendous accomplishment of farming newbies who have played more than 5 games.

CHEERS!

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[IR1SH ACE]

This guy GLG/DH or whatever he changes his name to next does not deserve any praise or credit....he is the CC equivalent to a real world
sociopath...

Profile of the Sociopath...its amazing how many of these match GLG

• Glibness and Superficial Charm
  
• Manipulative and Conning
  They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims. (this one just says it all...)
  
• Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
  Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities
  
• Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
  Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily. (GLG/DH name change)
  
• Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
• Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim

-lee67: thanks for the invite. . . . .I blew it in the first round
-soxx29: yeah, that was nice...but obviously i didn't know how to use them effectively
-Janomike: nice lesson, thanx for the game
-livi202: Thanks! So far I'm enjoying it very much, excited to learn all the interesting maps, like this one
-MGSteve: gg. . . . .ty. . . . .u2
-bobcat15: nice chatting with you a bit. just had a bit much going on.
-BuzzArd8499: interesting map. . . . .interesting map
-Jook1: haha, yeah, thanks for the game!
-scoz: It was an honor to play you. Thanks for taking the time to play and happy TG
-Rockiesman: That's alright, my goal was to make if 5 rounds with you (got to 6)

10 great responses of friendliness by the people you assume feel abused. Why don't you guys take a few mins and TALK to a few of my opponents and quit conjectoring how YOU might feel? Be sure to ask in an objective and NOT leading way.

GLG

I have no problem if he wants to play the game whatever way he wont's (even if it must be so boring to keep playing 1v1 on City Mogul) but dont start a Congrats thread for this kind of play and not expect a lot of hostile posts....

I know that u have do some really tedious/boring gameplay if u want to make it to the top of the scoreboard..the usual tactic is the 40/50 quads games set-up on some kind of conquest style map (clandemonium/pelop war) and wait for them to fill up with a bunch of noobs to join....but the difference here is that these quads games are made Public and anyone can join them....

Why would KORT want him?

why? not sure but maybe its an attempt to try and bring some sort of credibility to GLG...a guy who just about has Bronze Team-medals but has plenty of experience in Standard, 1v1, Speed, Freestyle & City Mogul (all well sought after requirements for any clan... )

Maybe KORT are in the know about some changes to Clan League rules/there is an up coming Clan tourney that will be City Mogul - 1v1 Speed Tourney...then they have the right man for the job....

Finally as I have said already I dont care how GLG plays the game but dont start a congrats thread for this....I like the way this thread was started by a member of KORT and then has about 4/5 other KORT members come in and say congrats and the usual mods...then somewhere in page 2 in just starts to deteriorate......Clan mates have to stick together....

Also to my knowledge the last person to make Conqueror that showed that they where a true strategic master and did not require 100's of Quads games on the same map/1v1 games with inexperience players on complicated maps was mc05025

Cheers Ace

[maxfaraday]

Don't you get it?

The farmster gets farmed.

[niMic]

Now he's a sociopath. I see.

Somehow, I'm reminded back to the time when there was some huge pitchfork rebellion against the general leadership over some imagined controversy or other, and someone , in a shocking display of a lack of perspective, posted their own version of the "First they came…" poem.

Long story short, the mods were basically Nazi's.

Good times, good times..

[natty dread]

What exactly is GLG doing that is wrong?

He's playing games that are easy to him, getting easy points. He's playing against opponents with less experience and skill than him.

It may be cowardly, it may be lots of things, but it's not cheating. He's not forcing those low-ranked players to join his games. They do it out of free will. Are you people saying that people who have low ranks are not capable of making their own decisions? If that's the case, I think GLG actually treats the low ranks with more respect than you - at least he doesn't assume them all to be morons or children.

If there's a point to all this GLG-bashing, it should be that the scoring system is flawed for allowing someone to benefit so much from so easy games. Stricter farming rules aren't the answer - they only take away the freedom from players. Kinda like the war on terrorism - you want to take away everone's freedom to protect them against a quasi-imaginary threat...

[Evolution299]

I dont think anyone would even give 2 sh*ts about GLG or his tactics if he didnt invite them to games. If all he did was open games and let anyone pay him this would be a non issue.
Yes, the players have the ability to say no, but the map he uses in his games looks easy to new players because it is visually appealing and GLG has the charm of a used car salesman. It's a bad combo.

[natty dread]

I dont think anyone would even give 2 sh*ts about GLG or his tactics if he didnt invite them to games. If all he did was open games and let anyone pay him this would be a non issue.
Yes, the players have the ability to say no, but the map he uses in his games looks easy to new players because it is visually appealing and GLG has the charm of a used car salesman. It's a bad combo.

So you're saying the low ranks have to be protected from making their own choices?

[Royal Panda]

I dont think anyone would even give 2 sh*ts about GLG or his tactics if he didnt invite them to games. If all he did was open games and let anyone pay him this would be a non issue.
Yes, the players have the ability to say no, but the map he uses in his games looks easy to new players because it is visually appealing and GLG has the charm of a used car salesman. It's a bad combo.

He's not cheating by any means, there are no rules being broken. Doesn't mean it's an achievement/anything to celebrate. If I really could be arsed, I could do exactly the same thing and easily become a general, which would be far beyond my natural ability would normally get me. GLG's a decent enough player anyway I guess, better than me probably.

But you're right; it's the charm and private game creation that's got all our backs up. Not good for attracting new members into buying premium for sure! Not when their free speed games (one of the main sells of premium) are being wasted on games they'll not have a hope in hell's chance of even knowing what's going on...

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[Master Bush]

low ranks are new to the site. It a giant site, with a huge forum, and tons of maps/game styles. it can be overwhelming to new players. so of course, when a high ranked player invites them to a game, that they probably go into it thinking they at least have a chance to win, they are gonna play it. and glg does his nice guy act with them, and when they are done getting raped in the game, of course they are gonna walk away saying nice things, because glg is a nice guy to them. but he is still taking advantage of them.

stop acting like you dont know what he's doing here natty. it's clear as day.

[natty dread]

So you're saying the low ranks have to be protected from making their own choices?

(Why do you keep dodging this question?)

[Master Bush]

So you're saying the low ranks have to be protected from making their own choices?

(Why do you keep dodging this question?)

because the question is designed to take blame off of glg, and onto the low ranked players. thats what you're trying to do here, right?

[QoH]

So you're saying the low ranks have to be protected from making their own choices?

(Why do you keep dodging this question?)

because the question is designed to take blame off of glg, and onto the low ranked players. thats what you're trying to do here, right?

As natty has said before, he doesn't give a f*ck about how people gain their points. It's up to the low rankers whether or not to accept these invites. Yes, what GLG does is unethical, but at the same time, he can't control the invited players.

[Master Bush]

you guys must be like the people who blame the victims who got scammed out of their money, instead of the person who scammed them. good to know.

[demonfork]

low ranks are new to the site. It a giant site, with a huge forum, and tons of maps/game styles. it can be overwhelming to new players. so of course, when a high ranked player invites them to a game, that they probably go into it thinking they at least have a chance to win, they are gonna play it. and glg does his nice guy act with them, and when they are done getting raped in the game, of course they are gonna walk away saying nice things, because glg is a nice guy to them. but he is still taking advantage of them.

stop acting like you dont know what he's doing here natty. it's clear as day.

Why do you believe that having a low rank means that you are new to the site?

[King_Herpes]

I FUCKING HATE FARMERS, THIS THREAD SHOULD BE BURNED TO THE GROUND!!!FARMING MAKES ME SICK I FEEL SICK!!!

[Bruceswar]

Why would KORT want him?

Have you ever seen him play? Have you ever played along side him? Likely no to both. While you might not agree with how he got his points you cannot speak to his skill otherwise. KORT is not stupid and does not take in people who will not be good for us. We obviously know something. You will just have to wait and see what we know. P.S. Josko.ri, Rodion, JaneAustin, Foxglove all had low team game counts. They have all turned out OK. I am sure glg will be OK also.

[natty dread]

because the question is designed to take blame off of glg and onto the low ranked players. thats what you're trying to do here, right?

Oh, wow. It's all about blaming someone to you, isn't it?

However, that has nothing to do with my question, which you dodged once again. So allow me to reiterate. I'll try to make this as simple as possible:

Are you saying that low ranked players have to be protected from making their own choices?

It's not that difficult. There's two choices here. Either it's:

a) - Yes: low ranked players are not capable of deciding for themselves what kind of games they can play or who they can play against. We need to protect them from making bad decisions because they don't know what's good for them.

or b) - No: low ranked players are capable of deciding for themselves what kind of games they can play or who they can play against. We don't need to restrict their freedom just because some people are afraid someone may benefit from playing against them.

[Master Bush]

I'm gonna continue to dodge your leading question.

[demonfork]

I'm gonna continue to dodge your leading question.

Translation....."I'm going to ignore this sound logic so that I can continue to perpetuate my own delusions....do you have any idea how much mood stabilizers cost these days?"

[Master Bush]

I'm gonna continue to dodge your leading question.

Translation....."I'm going to ignore this sound logic so that I can continue to perpetuate my own delusions....do you have any idea how much mood stabilizers cost these days?"

Bored today, Stevie?

[wolfpack0530]

because the question is designed to take blame off of glg and onto the low ranked players. thats what you're trying to do here, right?

Oh, wow. It's all about blaming someone to you, isn't it?

However, that has nothing to do with my question, which you dodged once again. So allow me to reiterate. I'll try to make this as simple as possible:

Are you saying that low ranked players have to be protected from making their own choices?

It's not that difficult. There's two choices here. Either it's:

a) - Yes: low ranked players are not capable of deciding for themselves what kind of games they can play or who they can play against. We need to protect them from making bad decisions because they don't know what's good for them.

or b) - No: low ranked players are capable of deciding for themselves what kind of games they can play or who they can play against. We don't need to restrict their freedom just because some people are afraid someone may benefit from playing against them.

natty, why continue this petty back and forth with bush? why not address the points that chariot of fire brought up? why not address any of my points? why because you are defending the indefensible, and your only tactic is deflection? you answer every question by asking a different question. why dont you stop being a coward and give us your real heartfelt opinion, and be open to criticism? you dont like being vulneralbe? you like sniping from a distance.

come on man, you are smarter than that, and better than that. you dont need backhanded debate tactic and strawman arguments do you? do you really? if so, its a shame. but your shame, will never be as pathetic and shameful as our lame conqueror. who represents us all, and who we all want to become right? lmao

[natty dread]

Wolfpack, your post is full of outright lies. You attempt to twist everything to support your viewpoint, and that to me is a sign of an intellectually dishonest person.

All I have done in these threads has been to present my argument, to which no one has so far formed a coherent counter-argument. If you wish to attempt to do so, be my guest. If you'd rather keep lying in attempt to discredit my argument, I will continue ignoring you.