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Postby KoolBak on Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:04 am

From a Canadian buddy:

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One Pissed off Canadian Housewife

Thought you might like to read this letter
to the editor. Ever notice how some people
just seem to know how to write a letter?

This one surely does!

This was written by a Canadian woman, but oh how
it also applies to the U.S.A. , U.K. and Australia .

THIS ONE PACKS A FIRM PUNCH

Written by a housewife in New Brunswick , to
her local newspaper. This is one ticked off lady...

"Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was
it or was it not, started by Islamic people who
brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001
and have continually threatened to do so since?

Were people from all over the world, not brutally murdered
that day, in downtown Manhattan , across the Potomac from
the capitol of the USA and in a field in Pennsylvania ?

Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they?

Do you think I care about four U. S. Marines urinating on some dead Taliban insurgents?

And I'm supposed to care that a few Taliban were
claiming to be tortured by a justice system of a
nation they are fighting against in a brutal Insurgency.

I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle
East, start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere belief
of which, is a crime punishable by beheading in Afghanistan .

I'll care when these thugs tell the world they are
sorry for hacking off Nick Berg's head, while Berg
screamed through his gurgling slashed throat.

I'll care when the cowardly so-called insurgents
in Afghanistan , come out and fight like men,
instead of disrespecting their own religion by
hiding in Mosques and behind women and children.

I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow
themselves up in search of Nirvana, care about the
innocent children within range of their suicide Bombs.

I'll care when the Canadian media stops pretending that
their freedom of Speech on stories, is more important than
the lives of the soldiers on the ground or their families waiting
at home, to hear about them when something happens.

In the meantime, when I hear a story about a
CANADIAN soldier roughing up an Insurgent
terrorist to obtain information, know this:

I don't care.

When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the
head when he is told not to move because he
might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the bank:

I don't care. Shoot him again.

When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and fed 'special' food, that is paid for by my tax dollars, is complaining that his holy book is being 'mishandled,' you can absolutely believe, in your heart of hearts:

I don't care.

And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes
it's spelled 'Koran' and other times 'Quran.'
Well, Jimmy Crack Corn you guessed it.

I don't care!!

If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to
all your E-mail Friends. Sooner or later, it'll get to
the people responsible for this ridiculous behavior!

If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete
button. Should you choose the latter, then please don't
complain when more atrocities committed by radical
Muslims happen here in our great Country! And may I add:

Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering, if
during their life on earth, they made a difference in
the world. But, the Soldiers don't have that problem.

I have another quote that I would like to
share AND...I hope you forward All this.

One last thought for the day:

Only five defining forces have ever offered to die for you:

1. Jesus Christ

2. The British Soldier.

3. The Canadian Soldier.

4. The US Soldier, and

5. The Australian Soldier

One died for your soul,
the other four, for you and your children's Freedom.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO PASS THIS ON,
AS MANY SEEM TO FORGET!
"Gypsy told my fortune...she said that nothin showed...."

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Re: I LOVE this woman.....

Postby Neoteny on Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:12 am

Do we, or do we not, consider ourselves to have the upper hand when it comes to morality, integrity, and justice?

Or do you not care?
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Re: I LOVE this woman.....

Postby Neoteny on Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:20 am

Because, and I'm just saying, if you do, does that really mesh with the concept of lowering yourself to the level of a terrorist's complete disregard for human life.

Gawd, I can't believe I'm replying to a fucking chan letter...
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Re: I LOVE this woman.....

Postby KoolBak on Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:48 am

:lol:
"Gypsy told my fortune...she said that nothin showed...."

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Postby 2dimes on Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:54 am

Wait a second. If the author was a Canadain housewife wouldn't it be,

"So Good Day Eh! How's it goin? So like are we fighting a war on terror or what? ..."
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Re: I LOVE this woman.....

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:40 pm

THEY DUN HURT US SO WE'RE GONNA DUN HURT THEM BACK.
YOU IS WITH US OR YOU IS AGAINST US.
FOR JEEEEEBUUUUS.


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Postby HapSmo19 on Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:46 pm

canadian woman wrote:Only five defining forces have ever offered to die for you:

1. Jesus Christ

2. The British Soldier.

3. The Canadian Soldier.

4. The US Soldier, and

5. The Australian Soldier

One died for your soul,
the other four, for you and your children's Freedom.


The Dutch are fighting in Afghanisham as well. Who knew?

Not really a "defining force" but there's a documentary about them called "Armadillo". Good flick.

Nice letter and I agree with this woman 100%, eh.
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Re: I LOVE this woman.....

Postby natty dread on Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:53 pm

I only got as far as the first couple of lines, then I sort of zoned out... to me it kinda read like "blah blah terrorists blah blah jesus blah blah mindless repetition of jingoistic war propaganda of an imperialistic government blah blah"...
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Re: I LOVE this woman.....

Postby HapSmo19 on Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:42 pm

Hey, that's the same way I feel when I read your posts, but, for other reasons.
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Re: I LOVE this woman.....

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:49 pm

That's weird. Usually, I see "yada yada yada" instead of "blah blah blah."
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Re: I LOVE this woman.....

Postby MeDeFe on Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:26 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:That's weird. Usually, I see "yada yada yada" instead of "blah blah blah."

"Yada yada yada" is for when someone fires of what they believe to be points in fairly quick succession, the tone of the letter is more on the droning side, hence the "blah blah blah".


But yeah, it's sad that some people think it's a good idea to lower themselves to the same level as those they claim to be superior to.
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Re: I LOVE this woman.....

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:38 pm

MeDeFe wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:That's weird. Usually, I see "yada yada yada" instead of "blah blah blah."

"Yada yada yada" is for when someone fires of what they believe to be points in fairly quick succession, the tone of the letter is more on the droning side, hence the "blah blah blah".



Which letter, MeDeFe?

I know, I know.


MeDeFe wrote:[But yeah, it's sad that some people think it's a good idea to lower themselves to the same level as those they claim to be superior to.



Agreed. When people seriously post, write articles, books, etc., I'm looking for coherent thought and a lack of logical fallacies (especially ad hominem attacks and anything that primarily appeals to emotion, or is polemic).
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Re: I LOVE this woman.....

Postby john9blue on Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:44 pm

we have killed more civilians than the al-qaeda terrorists (by orders of magnitude) and have been fighting them since before 9/11

i don't really care that we are "lowering ourselves to the terrorists' level" because sometimes you have to fight dirty. anyone who thinks we shouldn't is willing to sacrifice how many soldiers to maintain our "dignity" as a country?
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Postby Neoteny on Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:59 pm

Yeah, you guys are looking at this backward. The terrorists did, and are doing, something morally wrong. We are justified, indeed required by our national integrity, to bring them to justice. If they are resisting that, well, certain measures need to be taken.
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Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:01 pm

It's ok, john. I don't care too much about the moral arguments with terrorism either.

Here's my general problem with US foreign policy regarding the "long war":


1) If the government's method of executing certain leaders is the most effective (e.g. CIA drone strikes), then terrorism in the long-run will decrease.

2) If the terrorists seek substitutes and/or become more decentralized while remaining just as effective, then the current US methods are prolonging and worsening the problem.


I keep concluding that #2 is actually happening, yet what's crazy about US foreign policy is that those relevant bureaucracies tend to be geared toward thinking a certain way--which explains the unrelenting faith in #1 (caveat: issues of #2 are considered, yet the means aren't really changed).


Since the government exerts a monopoly on those services, then no potential firms are created to seek cheaper and more effective solutions (via competition in the market). Since the government's costs are incurred on the friends and family of the "collateral damage," and since the loss of such government investments are usually always experienced by the citizens (e.g. future 9-11 attack, anti-American sentiment, etc.), then the government won't change its decisions as quickly as say a private organization as it responds to profit and loss incentives.

So, with a bad feedback system, we're stuck with #1 until something bad happens, or terrorists innovate and find new means of achieving their goals (via terrorism, insurgency, who knows).
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Re: I LOVE this woman.....

Postby Ray Rider on Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:04 pm

Neoteny wrote:Do we, or do we not, consider ourselves to have the upper hand when it comes to morality, integrity, and justice?

Or do you not care?

Wow! looks like I can agree with Neoteny for once on a (partially) religious subject.

“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors [considered to be the worst of the worst back in those days] do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

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Postby Lootifer on Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:17 pm

HEY BITCH, DONT FORGET MOTHER FUCKING WILLIE "THE BAWS" APIATA AND ALL HIS NZSAS BUDDIES, WE FUCKED UP SOME FILTHY A-RABS TOO YOU LYING BITCHFACE!
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Postby Qwert on Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:36 pm

john9blue on Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:44 pm

we have killed more civilians than the al-qaeda terrorists (by orders of magnitude) and have been fighting them since before 9/11

i don't really care that we are "lowering ourselves to the terrorists' level" because sometimes you have to fight dirty. anyone who thinks we shouldn't is willing to sacrifice how many soldiers to maintain our "dignity" as a country?

yep,you right, some 100000 minimum killed civilian in afghanistan and iraq, for 3000 killed in 9/11. Hmm,how much more need to be killed,so that score be even?

by BigBallinStalin » Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:01 am

It's ok, john. I don't care too much about the moral arguments with terrorism either.

Here's my general problem with US foreign policy regarding the "long war":


1) If the government's method of executing certain leaders is the most effective (e.g. CIA drone strikes), then terrorism in the long-run will decrease.

2) If the terrorists seek substitutes and/or become more decentralized while remaining just as effective, then the current US methods are prolonging and worsening the problem.


I keep concluding that #2 is actually happening, yet what's crazy about US foreign policy is that those relevant bureaucracies tend to be geared toward thinking a certain way--which explains the unrelenting faith in #1 (caveat: issues of #2 are considered, yet the means aren't really changed).


Since the government exerts a monopoly on those services, then no potential firms are created to seek cheaper and more effective solutions (via competition in the market). Since the government's costs are incurred on the friends and family of the "collateral damage," and since the loss of such government investments are usually always experienced by the citizens (e.g. future 9-11 attack, anti-American sentiment, etc.), then the government won't change its decisions as quickly as say a private organization as it responds to profit and loss incentives.

So, with a bad feedback system, we're stuck with #1 until something bad happens, or terrorists innovate and find new means of achieving their goals (via terrorism, insurgency, who knows).

You will get answer,when you look back in history. Nobody manage to conquer Afghanistan in last 200 years, these try British,several times, then Soviet Union,and now US and hes pawns. All these Invaders,had better soldiers,equipment,comunication,but still result are same- defeat.
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Postby notyou2 on Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:04 pm

If that was in fact written by a housewife in New Brunswick, then she is most likely the wife of a Canadian soldier that served in Afghanistan. The largest land base in area in North America is in New Brunswick.
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Postby patches70 on Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:05 pm

Our whole "strategy" in the war on terror is to fly around over a village out in the middle of no where and kill one guy (and anyone else who might happen to be in close proximity).

I can imagine the scene now,
Air Force Tech/CIA operative (or whomever) is looking at a screen- "I think I see the target sir. Shall I go hot?"
Officer- "That's an affirmative. Weapons hot."
BOOOMMM!!!!
One dead "terrorist" who just happened to be the village elder or holy man. Along with him are five little kids, two women and 12 followers.
"Great job solider!" Officer pats the tech on the back who grins wide and says- "Thank you sir. Score one for the good guys!"

Yeah, score one my ass. The parents of those kids are pissed and are now terrorists looking for blood. The rest of the religious type folks of the village who didn't give a rat's ass before are now pissed and looking for blood. The husbands of the women killed are pissed and looking for blood and are damn sure gonna make sure the kids know exactly who it was that killed mommy.
All the wives of the followers killed are pissed and they're telling the same thing to the now fatherless children exactly who it was that killed their daddy.

Yep, 1 for the good guys, 100 new terrorists. Great job!

qwert wrote:yep,you right, some 100000 minimum killed civilian in afghanistan and iraq, for 3000 killed in 9/11. Hmm,how much more need to be killed,so that score be even?


Well...not meaning to split hairs with ya there qwert, but there is a precedent. The Israelis gave up 1,000 prisoners for a single soldier in an exchange. Thus the price is set, 1,000 of them for 1 of ours. That's the agreed upon price by both sides. Thus, if we lost 3,000 people the price is 1,000 terrorists per person. How many is that? 3,000,000. We got a little more killing ta do before the score is settled by the going rate......
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Postby Qwert on Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:45 pm

patches 70, well if you count terrorist,then you will be right, but question its how many terrorist are killed so far?? Sometime (well who know how many time), US after aerial bombardment, say "Operation succesfull,we killed insurgent and terrorist"--these after 10 years,look dont have effect.
You are in good way describe US Tactic, who only help increase of insurgent. just look on these table,and will realised that every next year,situation become more and more bad, no improvment in afghanistan(probably because tactic what you describe, not working)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... fghanistan
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Postby Evil Semp on Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:00 pm

qwert wrote:yep,you right, some 100000 minimum killed civilian in afghanistan and iraq, for 3000 killed in 9/11. Hmm,how much more need to be killed,so that score be even?


I would be interested to see how you came up with this number. Is it 100,000 killed by US military?
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Postby john9blue on Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:58 pm

Neoteny wrote:Yeah, you guys are looking at this backward. The terrorists did, and are doing, something morally wrong. We are justified, indeed required by our national integrity, to bring them to justice. If they are resisting that, well, certain measures need to be taken.


BigBallinStalin wrote:It's ok, john. I don't care too much about the moral arguments with terrorism either.


are either of you being sarcastic? hard to tell :-s

if there was a terrorist threat, we would be endangering more lives than necessary by not swiftly taking care of the problem by any means necessary. unfortunately, our response has not been swift and has done much more than "address the problem".
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Postby Neoteny on Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:03 pm

At the time, I was pretending to be turned by a TPDS. There was some leeway in my argument that can be safely taken seriously.
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Postby natty dread on Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:14 am

The USA is an imperialistic nation that preys on the weak and acts for it's own self-interest.

It's a country started by racist colonialists who figured the best way to be succesful in the world would be to kill and oppress less fortunate people, and make a profit out of it.

The whole history of the USA is based on oppressing and killing other people and making a profit out of it. I don't know why anyone is surprised they are still doing the same thing...
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