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Re: ITT: DJL tourney; probably going to happen. Moar entrant

Postby maasman on Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:10 pm

I'd definitely play with those settings.
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Re: ITT: interest in a tourney/league involving DJL posters?

Postby whitestazn88 on Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:25 pm

Neoteny wrote:Speaking of, if you know of any banned fools that can and do still play, and want to proxy their intent to me, I'm open to such endeavors as well.


I thought this said banned foods, and I was thinking "the only one I know is this mustard that dances"

I'm in. Rally the troops to defeat the online terrorists of the TPDS!!

There should be shameful consequences for losing. Such as having to wax your bung and posting a pic of the strip of paper, in all of it's puckered circular glory, on the forum.
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Re: ITT: DJL tourney; probably going to happen. Moar entrant

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:28 pm

Sounds good.

Maybe a slight point bump for winner or 8 player game?
Seems kinda weird that winning 2 man game = 2 points, winning 8 man game = 3 points.
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Re: ITT: DJL tourney; probably going to happen. Moar entrant

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:48 pm

YEAH, WANT MORE POINTS! MORE MORE MROE
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Re: ITT: DJL tourney; probably going to happen. Moar entrant

Postby Neoteny on Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:49 pm

Haggis_McMutton wrote:Sounds good.

Maybe a slight point bump for winner or 8 player game?
Seems kinda weird that winning 2 man game = 2 points, winning 8 man game = 3 points.


Reasonable enough. What do you suggest? 6-4-2? More?
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Re: ITT: interest in a tourney/league involving DJL posters?

Postby Neoteny on Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:51 pm

whitestazn88 wrote:
Neoteny wrote:Speaking of, if you know of any banned fools that can and do still play, and want to proxy their intent to me, I'm open to such endeavors as well.


I thought this said banned foods, and I was thinking "the only one I know is this mustard that dances"

I'm in. Rally the troops to defeat the online terrorists of the TPDS!!

There should be shameful consequences for losing. Such as having to wax your bung and posting a pic of the strip of paper, in all of it's puckered circular glory, on the forum.


Your recent obsession with bungs is both disturbing and amusing.
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Re: ITT: DJL tourney; probably going to happen. Moar entrant

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:03 pm

neoteny wrote:TG, I'm assuming the goddamn batman is signifying your participation?


Si. I'm game for any settings, although I am and will remain a freemie, but it seems you've got that worked out.

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Re: ITT: DJL tourney; probably going to happen. Moar entrant

Postby Neoteny on Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:14 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
neoteny wrote:TG, I'm assuming the goddamn batman is signifying your participation?


Si. I'm game for any settings, although I am and will remain a freemie, but it seems you've got that worked out.

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Re: ITT: DJL tourney; probably going to happen. Moar entrant

Postby Woodruff on Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:56 pm

Neoteny wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:Sounds good.

Maybe a slight point bump for winner or 8 player game?
Seems kinda weird that winning 2 man game = 2 points, winning 8 man game = 3 points.


Reasonable enough. What do you suggest? 6-4-2? More?


Perhaps a point system like a track meet? 10-8-6-4-2-1?
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Re: ITT: DJL tourney; probably going to happen. Moar entrant

Postby Neoteny on Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:04 pm

I worry that such high scores will overly reduce the value of 1v1 victories. Those can be modified too though.

moar feedback on scoring go
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Re: ITT: DJL tourney; probably going to happen. Moar entrant

Postby Woodruff on Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:06 pm

Neoteny wrote:I worry that such high scores will overly reduce the value of 1v1 victories. Those can be modified too though.


Yes, and no. Don't the 1-vs-1 games related directly to "advancing" to the others? Thus, at the time that the larger games start, won't everyone's 1-vs-1 scores at least be reasonably close to one another? Or am I misunderstanding?
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Re: ITT: DJL tourney; probably going to happen. Moar entrant

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:17 pm

You don't want to offer too many points for 2nd, 3rd places in an 8 player escalating game, because it encourages players to just deploy and never attack, which guarantees them 2nd or 3rd place. (See the early map blaster tournies where we learned this the hard way).

How about something like this:

1st - 10
2nd - 5
3rd - 4
4th - 3
5th - 2
6th - 1
7th - 0
8th - 0
No attacks - 0, regardless of place
Objective win - 10 points, 0 for everyone else (we're probably not doing objective maps though)

And 1 vs 1, dunno say 4-5 points or so ?
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Re: ITT: DJL tourney; probably going to happen. Moar entrant

Postby Neoteny on Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:19 pm

Woodruff wrote:
Neoteny wrote:I worry that such high scores will overly reduce the value of 1v1 victories. Those can be modified too though.


Yes, and no. Don't the 1-vs-1 games related directly to "advancing" to the others? Thus, at the time that the larger games start, won't everyone's 1-vs-1 scores at least be reasonably close to one another? Or am I misunderstanding?


Points from the 1v1 games and larger games will determine advancement to playoff. Say there are ten contenders, and my previous math is right. That means there are nine RR games and four large format games. I would structure them parallel, say one large format game every two rounds or so, so that they complete at about the same time, and we get the entertainment of big games throughout the event. Then the 1v1 playoff.

I'm also thinking perhaps a large format game for playoff contenders for some sort of advantage in the final, and one for the non-playoff bound just for the halibut, as well.
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Re: ITT: DJL tourney; probably going to happen. Moar entrant

Postby Neoteny on Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:21 pm

Haggis_McMutton wrote:How about something like this:

1st - 10
2nd - 5
3rd - 4
4th - 3
5th - 2
6th - 1
7th - 0
8th - 0
No attacks - 0, regardless of place
Objective win - 10 points, 0 for everyone else (we're probably not doing objective maps though)

And 1 vs 1, dunno say 4-5 points or so ?


This seems workable.

Classic will be used for all scored maps. Crazy bonus maps may or may not be classic, depending on my whims. Since I'm participating, you guys sort of have to trust that I'll do my best to keep my whims impartial.
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Re: ITT: DJL tourney; probably going to happen. Moar entrant

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:23 pm

Can certain players get more points? I want a point-multiplier (a random 2-5 times multiplier), and no one else can have it.
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Re: ITT: DJL tourney; probably going to happen. Moar entrant

Postby maasman on Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:24 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:Can certain players get more points? I want a point-multiplier (a random 2-5 times multiplier), and no one else can have it.


How about -5 for you.
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Re: ITT: DJL tourney; probably going to happen. Moar entrant

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:26 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:Can certain players get more points? I want a point-multiplier (a random 2-5 times multiplier), and no one else can have it.


I support this.

I mean we've got to level the playing field somehow. It's just no fun otherwise.
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Re: ITT: DJL tourney; probably going to happen. Moar entrant

Postby Neoteny on Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:32 pm

A multipier or divisor is a possible temporary bonus. I'm also considering turtle shells and a bolt of lightning that shrinks everyone except the user.
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Re: ITT: DJL tourney; probably going to happen. Moar entrant

Postby Woodruff on Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:32 pm

Neoteny wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Neoteny wrote:I worry that such high scores will overly reduce the value of 1v1 victories. Those can be modified too though.


Yes, and no. Don't the 1-vs-1 games related directly to "advancing" to the others? Thus, at the time that the larger games start, won't everyone's 1-vs-1 scores at least be reasonably close to one another? Or am I misunderstanding?


Points from the 1v1 games and larger games will determine advancement to playoff. Say there are ten contenders, and my previous math is right. That means there are nine RR games and four large format games. I would structure them parallel, say one large format game every two rounds or so, so that they complete at about the same time, and we get the entertainment of big games throughout the event. Then the 1v1 playoff.


Oh, I got you...so I was misunderstanding. Carry on, then.

Neoteny wrote:I'm also thinking perhaps a large format game for playoff contenders for some sort of advantage in the final, and one for the non-playoff bound just for the halibut, as well.


I agree with this last certainly. Because...well, because we can. <smile>
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Re: ITT: DJL tourney; probably going to happen. Moar entrant

Postby john9blue on Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:42 pm

Neoteny wrote:I'm also considering turtle shells and a bolt of lightning that shrinks everyone except the user.


you don't even know how amazing this idea is.
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Re: ITT: DJL tourney; probably going to happen. Moar entrant

Postby whitestazn88 on Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:57 pm

john9blue wrote:
Neoteny wrote:I'm also considering turtle shells and a bolt of lightning that shrinks everyone except the user.


you don't even know how amazing this idea is.


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Re: ITT: DJL tourney; probably going to happen. Moar entrant

Postby nietzsche on Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:27 pm

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Re: ITT: interest in a tourney/league involving DJL posters?

Postby Neoteny on Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:55 am

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john9blue
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Lootifer
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TA1LGUNN3R
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Everyone else

Hell, that's almost enough for a real tourney. I think most of us are more interested in the larger games though, so I'll stick with the current rules we worked so hard on. I'm probably still accepting entrants though, so feel free to join in.
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Re: ITT: DJL tourney; probably going to happen. Moar entrant

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:40 am

wait, I'm confused, what is this "DJL" thing? :-k
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Re: ITT: DJL tourney; probably going to happen. Moar entrant

Postby Neoteny on Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:23 am

Haggis_McMutton wrote:wait, I'm confused, what is this "DJL" thing? :-k


Davy Jones' Locker, fool.

EDIT: oh Christ, those bastards had to change it now...
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