Post your Criteria for Presidential Candidates

[whitestazn88]

Secular when it comes to political ideas, but at this point in time, I'd say I want a candidate that is spiritual in some way, so that he's not on some ego trip (ie. he has a higher power to make sure he doesn't do stupid/inhumane things)

I know what you're thinking here, and I can even sort of agree to a point, but...Spanish Inquisition, anyone?

Well I don't think anyone is letting that kind of action side in the 21st century...

[Woodruff]

Secular when it comes to political ideas, but at this point in time, I'd say I want a candidate that is spiritual in some way, so that he's not on some ego trip (ie. he has a higher power to make sure he doesn't do stupid/inhumane things)

I know what you're thinking here, and I can even sort of agree to a point, but...Spanish Inquisition, anyone?

Well I don't think anyone is letting that kind of action side in the 21st century...

I guess the point I was making is that being spiritual doesn't necessarily make you a nice guy, nor does being secular make you a bad guy. And as far as "ego trip", I think that's pretty much a requirement of anyone that wants to be President...isn't it?

[ViperOverLord]

Dealbreakers:

1. Is Mormon. http://www.salon.com/2012/01/29/mitt_an ... singleton/ Seriously, the Mormon religion preaches the overthrow of the Constitution...

Mormon Quotes Regarding Constitution/Law

Even this nation will be on the verge of crumbling to pieces and tumbling to the ground and when the Constitution is on the brink of ruin this people will be the staff upon which the nation shall lean and they shall bear the Constitution away from the very verge of destruction. -- Joseph Smith

Brethren and sisters, let me say in closing that we have it of record, that the prophet Joseph Smith said the time would come when, through secret organizations taking the law into their own hands, not being governed by law or by due process of law, but becoming a law unto themselves, when, by those disintegrating activities, the Constitution of the United States would be so torn and rent asunder, and life and property and peace and security would he held of so little value, that the Constitution would, as it were, hang by a thread. But he never said, so far as I have heard, that that thread would be cut. I believe, with Elder Richards, that this Constitution will be preserved, but it will be preserved very largely in consequence of what the Lord has revealed and what this people, through listening to the Lord and being obedient, will help to bring about, to stabilize and give permanency and effect to the Constitution itself. That also is our mission. That also is what we are here for. I glory in it. I praiseGod with all my heart and soul that I am a member of it. -- CW Nibley

12th Article Of Faith: We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.

[Woodruff]

Dealbreakers:

1. Is Mormon. http://www.salon.com/2012/01/29/mitt_an ... singleton/ Seriously, the Mormon religion preaches the overthrow of the Constitution...

Mormon Quotes Regarding Constitution/Law

Even this nation will be on the verge of crumbling to pieces and tumbling to the ground and when the Constitution is on the brink of ruin this people will be the staff upon which the nation shall lean and they shall bear the Constitution away from the very verge of destruction. -- Joseph Smith

Brethren and sisters, let me say in closing that we have it of record, that the prophet Joseph Smith said the time would come when, through secret organizations taking the law into their own hands, not being governed by law or by due process of law, but becoming a law unto themselves, when, by those disintegrating activities, the Constitution of the United States would be so torn and rent asunder, and life and property and peace and security would he held of so little value, that the Constitution would, as it were, hang by a thread. But he never said, so far as I have heard, that that thread would be cut. I believe, with Elder Richards, that this Constitution will be preserved, but it will be preserved very largely in consequence of what the Lord has revealed and what this people, through listening to the Lord and being obedient, will help to bring about, to stabilize and give permanency and effect to the Constitution itself. That also is our mission. That also is what we are here for. I glory in it. I praiseGod with all my heart and soul that I am a member of it. -- CW Nibley

12th Article Of Faith: We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.

Good info. Thanks!

[ViperOverLord]

If this article is on the money, then I'd say that Middle East concerns may even trump the inevitable free market vs. wealth distribution issue come election time.

[BigBallinStalin]

If this article is on the money, then I'd say that Middle East concerns may even trump the inevitable free market vs. wealth distribution issue come election time.

No worries. The US and Israel are coordinating on this problem.

[Woodruff]

If this article is on the money, then I'd say that Middle East concerns may even trump the inevitable free market vs. wealth distribution issue come election time.

No worries. The US and Israel are coordinating on this problem.

Which is a large part of the problem.

[BigBallinStalin]

If this article is on the money, then I'd say that Middle East concerns may even trump the inevitable free market vs. wealth distribution issue come election time.

No worries. The US and Israel are coordinating on this problem.

Which is a large part of the problem.

Woodruff, don't you want to bestow freedom and liberty to an oppressed people???

[Woodruff]

If this article is on the money, then I'd say that Middle East concerns may even trump the inevitable free market vs. wealth distribution issue come election time.

No worries. The US and Israel are coordinating on this problem.

Which is a large part of the problem.

Woodruff, don't you want to bestow freedom and liberty to an oppressed people???

Call me selfish, but I'd like us to get it first.

[PLAYER57832]

Does it warrant one? Obama doesn't worship a pastor.
I love how you always think that you're being the intelligent one.

it's not a matter of "worship", it's a matter of having the same ideology

my original comment was based on the pre-text that Romney is crazy just because he belongs to a religion that has things other religions think is wierd, but they all have weird things about them somewhere. I only transferred that thinking to what church/religion Obama has belonged to.

I don't think it's a reasonable assumption, not even when based on an unreasonable article that was in the OP.

That stuff reminds of of Glenn Beck's 12th Imam frenzy

Do some reading on the subject. That article is far from the only evidence.

Personally, I find that so many of the Repubs are courting the young earth creationists to be far, far more worrisome.

I cannot find Romney's ties to Mormonism more worrisome than Bush's ties to the evangelical movement. At least (last time I checked) the modern church of the Latter Day Saints accepts basic science.

[PLAYER57832]

If this article is on the money, then I'd say that Middle East concerns may even trump the inevitable free market vs. wealth distribution issue come election time.

If that happens, there will be no sanctuary for anyone.

.....At least not on this Earth.

[jgordon1111]

Back on topic.

Someone who has graduated college preferable

someone who comes from a humble background and worked their way to the top

someone who has No friends or family that have held a political office higher than state rep.

someone who firmly beleives investment bankers and stock brokers are full of shit, and can not be shaken from that belief or bought out of it.

someone who thinks out what is best for the country before they make political appointments.

someone who for their country can be Bi Partisan.

Other than that I dont care your race, religion, or creed. as long as you are an American citizen

[PLAYER57832]

Someone who will go out of his/her way to get advisors with differing expertise, backgrounds and opinions. Someone who will actually listen to varying viewpoints, who welcomes intelligent disagreement in order to better be aware of options, but who also understands that when decisions need to be made, the person at the top makes them.


I deally, I woud like someone who has basic integrity. I really don't care what the religion, what the personal life the person has. I care that in public life, if they say they will do something.. they try to do it. BUT... that person also has to be flexible enough to know when they have been wrong OR simply cannot get all they want and compromise is necessary to get the job done! I see compromise as a strength, not a weakness of character, when compromise means listening to others and working with variuos ways of doing things.


However... I will take someone who simply will do less to put more power in the hands of big business and who will do more to protect the world around us.

[ViperOverLord]

If this article is on the money, then I'd say that Middle East concerns may even trump the inevitable free market vs. wealth distribution issue come election time.

If that happens, there will be no sanctuary for anyone.

.....At least not on this Earth.

Somebody upped the dosage on their fatality pills....

[PLAYER57832]

If this article is on the money, then I'd say that Middle East concerns may even trump the inevitable free market vs. wealth distribution issue come election time.

If that happens, there will be no sanctuary for anyone.

.....At least not on this Earth.

Somebody upped the dosage on their fatality pills....

I see. So you thinkt he Middle East will just stand by if Israel attacks? I don't. It will simply make the push for nuclear increase.

Also, Pakistan already has the bomb. And, while they are not part of the Middle East, I have a hard time believing they would remain out of such a situation entirely.

[pimpdave]

More Dealbreakers:

Roots for the New England Patriots
Roots for a football team he grew up nowhere near (like weirdos from the East coast who root for the 49ers cause they were great in the 80s when they were kids)

[john9blue]

Someone who will go out of his/her way to get advisors with differing expertise, backgrounds and opinions. Someone who will actually listen to varying viewpoints, who welcomes intelligent disagreement in order to better be aware of options, but who also understands that when decisions need to be made, the person at the top makes them.


I deally, I woud like someone who has basic integrity. I really don't care what the religion, what the personal life the person has. I care that in public life, if they say they will do something.. they try to do it. BUT... that person also has to be flexible enough to know when they have been wrong OR simply cannot get all they want and compromise is necessary to get the job done! I see compromise as a strength, not a weakness of character, when compromise means listening to others and working with variuos ways of doing things.


However... I will take someone who simply will do less to put more power in the hands of big business and who will do more to protect the world around us.

this is pretty accurate for me

it's unrealistic to expect someone who has all the answers. the most we can hope for is someone who knows that they don't have all the answers and is willing to listen to others

[ViperOverLord]

If this article is on the money, then I'd say that Middle East concerns may even trump the inevitable free market vs. wealth distribution issue come election time.

If that happens, there will be no sanctuary for anyone.

.....At least not on this Earth.

Somebody upped the dosage on their fatality pills....

I see. So you thinkt he Middle East will just stand by if Israel attacks? I don't. It will simply make the push for nuclear increase.

Also, Pakistan already has the bomb. And, while they are not part of the Middle East, I have a hard time believing they would remain out of such a situation entirely.

If war breaks out in that extremely corrupt part of the world then the consequences will be world wide. Odds are though that there would be plenty of sanctuary inside of the United States.

[Aradhus]

Here comes the theocrat.

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Theocrats ho!


Pros:
speech impediment
history of alcohol abuse
low self esteem
short attention span
is suicidal
cons:
An intellectual with a backbone and a super bitch for a wife
fluctuating ego, manipulated at will by the mrs
competent(I wave witnessed that the american public never vote in a competent candidate, I have faith in the american public, therefore, competency must be a bad thing) - NOoooooo!, you can't put a con in the con list you stupid whorebag, now you've fucked up the whole thing -

[rockfist]

Someone who does not go on ESPN and talk endlessly about their stupid ass NCAA tournament brackets while the economy is failing and a nuclear reactor is melting down in an important US ally and world economy. The NCAA tournament makes me puke, but excepting that as a matter of personal taste, if you take the job even remotely seriously you would not do that.

[ViperOverLord]

Someone who does not go on ESPN and talk endlessly about their stupid ass NCAA tournament brackets while the economy is failing and a nuclear reactor is melting down in an important US ally and world economy. The NCAA tournament makes me puke, but excepting that as a matter of personal taste, if you take the job even remotely seriously you would not do that.

LOL - I'm an avid Obama opponent but I don't put too much stock into the concept that his recreational activities is affecting his job performance. He fails b/c he doesn't have a backbone, nor does he regard sound economics. It's that simple.

[PLAYER57832]

If this article is on the money, then I'd say that Middle East concerns may even trump the inevitable free market vs. wealth distribution issue come election time.

If that happens, there will be no sanctuary for anyone.

.....At least not on this Earth.

Somebody upped the dosage on their fatality pills....

I see. So you thinkt he Middle East will just stand by if Israel attacks? I don't. It will simply make the push for nuclear increase.

Also, Pakistan already has the bomb. And, while they are not part of the Middle East, I have a hard time believing they would remain out of such a situation entirely.

If war breaks out in that extremely corrupt part of the world then the consequences will be world wide. Odds are though that there would be plenty of sanctuary inside of the United States.

Not if it goes nuclear. And, this scenario is leading to that. People who feel they have nothing to lose don't often care much about consequences to others. And that mindset is building both in Israel, the Middle East and even here to some extent (to a small extent, but still there).

[rockfist]

Someone who does not go on ESPN and talk endlessly about their stupid ass NCAA tournament brackets while the economy is failing and a nuclear reactor is melting down in an important US ally and world economy. The NCAA tournament makes me puke, but excepting that as a matter of personal taste, if you take the job even remotely seriously you would not do that.

LOL - I'm an avid Obama opponent but I don't put too much stock into the concept that his recreational activities is affecting his job performance. He fails b/c he doesn't have a backbone, nor does he regard sound economics. It's that simple.

You may be correct, but perceptions define reality.

[notyou2]

Honesty, integrity and willing to do what's needed.

Gee, those sound like Obama traits. If only the rest of them had them too. Alas.

[ViperOverLord]

Honesty, integrity and willing to do what's needed.

Gee, those sound like Obama traits. If only the rest of them had them too. Alas.

That was good one.