Of These Candidates, Who is A Massive, Proven Racist?

[thegreekdog]

I think there must be some misunderstanding on your part, thegreekdog.

I'm glad we've conducted this poll though. This thread will be useful to cite in future arguments about whether or not Ron Paul is a massive, proven racist.

Like when other users change polls after 50 pages of discussion to attempt to prove a point?

[pimpdave]

Nope

[comic boy]

Wow 89% , thats pretty conclusive , another supposed messiah bites the dust....

[AAFitz]

long-term?

because a few of those guys would send our country on the path to getting destroyed/economic collapse/overtaken by china. meaning our military would suck and be quite small.

Do I sense a complex about shrinking and being small?

Ron Paul is in fact the least likely on the grounds that he has next to no chance of becoming President.
Latest odds ;
Obama : 4-6
Romney : 13-8
Gingrich: 14-1
Paul: 50-1

You always take the fun out of it with your god-damned reason.

your posts sound reasonable and not at all retarded and baselessly biased.

if i posted comic's post and he posted my post, would you have responded in the same way?

no, you would not have.

Well, maybe the "taking the fun out of it" part, because clearly, it was just a joke.

I wouldn't have posted that you always do it with reason though, because quite simply...I havent found that to be the case.

As far as making fun of comics shrinkage, Im sure I have already.

[comic boy]

Its true , the mental scars have barely healed....

[pimpdave]

It fills my heart with sorrow to know that you have mental scars, comic boy. I hope they fade in time, unlike the possibility of quelling the burning fire of racism which continues unabated in Ron Paul's heart of darkness.

[Nola_Lifer]

It fills my heart with sorrow to know that you have mental scars, comic boy. I hope they fade in time, unlike the possibility of quelling the burning fire of racism which continues unabated in Ron Paul's heart of darkness.

I don't understand. What do you have against Ron Paul? Or is there another underlying reason why you dislike Ron that has nothing to do with the Republican candidate?

[pimpdave]

Do you mean aside from his massive, proven racism?

[Woodruff]

It fills my heart with sorrow to know that you have mental scars, comic boy. I hope they fade in time, unlike the possibility of quelling the burning fire of racism which continues unabated in Ron Paul's heart of darkness.

I don't understand. What do you have against Ron Paul? Or is there another underlying reason why you dislike Ron that has nothing to do with the Republican candidate?

He's a Republican, duh?

[pimpdave]

I support the idea of at least 1/3 of all Republicans writing in Ron Paul in the actual election.

[john9blue]

i think the people who will fall for dave's trick here are the same people who fall for his tea party death squad troll threads: namely, nobody at all.

[pimpdave]

I had no idea that being a massive, proven racist included any trickery at all.

[Symmetry]

I had no idea that being a massive, proven racist included any trickery at all.

To be fair, most of the sources reporting on Ron Paul's racist newsletters say that he is not a racist.

Of course they also say that he was encouraging racism (also anti-semitism and homophobia) to earn money and political support from libertarians. So there was trickery, albeit on the part of Ron Paul.

[Nola_Lifer]

It fills my heart with sorrow to know that you have mental scars, comic boy. I hope they fade in time, unlike the possibility of quelling the burning fire of racism which continues unabated in Ron Paul's heart of darkness.

I don't understand. What do you have against Ron Paul? Or is there another underlying reason why you dislike Ron that has nothing to do with the Republican candidate?

He's a Republican, duh?

But why not trick other about Mitt or Newt? Why Ron? It can't just be because he is a Republican. There has to be some other underlying motivation and trickery here.

[Symmetry]

It fills my heart with sorrow to know that you have mental scars, comic boy. I hope they fade in time, unlike the possibility of quelling the burning fire of racism which continues unabated in Ron Paul's heart of darkness.

I don't understand. What do you have against Ron Paul? Or is there another underlying reason why you dislike Ron that has nothing to do with the Republican candidate?

He's a Republican, duh?

But why not trick other about Mitt or Newt? Why Ron? It can't just be because he is a Republican. There has to be some other underlying motivation and trickery here.

Possibly because he's generally presented as a truth teller, and this an obvious instance where he lied. Possibly because Paul supporters often portray him as the saviour of American politics, when this shows he'll approve anything for political gain. Possibly because he's associated with libertarianism, and libertarians aren't particularly comfortable talking about some of the racist stuff within their movement.

[Nola_Lifer]

You only see part of the quote. Someone who is for states rights and against federal powers would seem like a racist.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... rights-act

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[Woodruff]

It fills my heart with sorrow to know that you have mental scars, comic boy. I hope they fade in time, unlike the possibility of quelling the burning fire of racism which continues unabated in Ron Paul's heart of darkness.

I don't understand. What do you have against Ron Paul? Or is there another underlying reason why you dislike Ron that has nothing to do with the Republican candidate?

He's a Republican, duh?

But why not trick other about Mitt or Newt? Why Ron? It can't just be because he is a Republican. There has to be some other underlying motivation and trickery here.

Possibly, he sees Ron Paul as the most dangerous one as regards pushing Obama out of the White House. A point on which I strongly would agree.

[BigBallinStalin]

It fills my heart with sorrow to know that you have mental scars, comic boy. I hope they fade in time, unlike the possibility of quelling the burning fire of racism which continues unabated in Ron Paul's heart of darkness.

I don't understand. What do you have against Ron Paul? Or is there another underlying reason why you dislike Ron that has nothing to do with the Republican candidate?

He's a Republican, duh?

But why not trick other about Mitt or Newt? Why Ron? It can't just be because he is a Republican. There has to be some other underlying motivation and trickery here.

Possibly because he's generally presented as a truth teller, and this an obvious instance where he lied. Possibly because Paul supporters often portray him as the saviour of American politics, when this shows he'll approve anything for political gain. Possibly because he's associated with libertarianism, and libertarians aren't particularly comfortable talking about some of the racist stuff within their movement.

"So, you were fired from Ron Paul's crew, eh?"

"Yeah..."

"Well, what if I gave you some money to say some things about him?"

"Sounds good."

[Symmetry]

Urgh, I actually told Nola Lifer I'd stay out of this thread.

Of course the sources are pretty extensive by now rather than a single source, and certainly not simply those who no longer support Paul back this up. This is about as thorough as you can get unless your particular definition of proof is "I'll deny it until Paul himself tells me it's true".

At which point you have to accept that you're into kool aid territory. And not the good kind.

Of kool aid.

The bad kind of kool aid. Where you won't believe it unless the leader tells you so.

[tkr4lf]

Wow, pimpdave, that was a really cool trick you did there. I like how you had a poll asking one question, and then once everybody had voted for the person you wanted them to, you changed the poll to ask something entirely different that would make that person look bad. You're a really cool guy. I only hope I can be as cool as you when I grow up.

[BigBallinStalin]

Urgh, I actually told Nola Lifer I'd stay out of this thread.

Of course the sources are pretty extensive by now rather than a single source, and certainly not simply those who no longer support Paul back this up. This is about as thorough as you can get unless your particular definition of proof is "I'll deny it until Paul himself tells me it's true".

At which point you have to accept that you're into kool aid territory. And not the good kind.

Of kool aid.

The bad kind of kool aid. Where you won't believe it unless the leader tells you so.

I already looked at your sources. It doesn't support the extent of your claim, so I dismissed your stance as unfounded.

You didn't wish to answer my questions. You posted a link to the sources which I already read, but you failed to defend your case as relevant to my questions, so whatever, Sym. Have fun strutting around, big guy!

(0.5/10 on the kool aid bit, +0.5 for the effort though! If at first you don't succeed, troll harder try try and try again!*

Just kidding on that trolling allegation. I only do it for teh lulz.

[Phatscotty]

Yeah Symm you been barkin up the wrong trees here and in the piggy thread.

If nobody cares about what president Obama wrote in his thesis papers at Harvard and Columbia, why the f*ck does anyone care what some person (who is not Ron Paul) wrote about something 30 years ago?

It's dumb, dishonest, and disingenuous. But what the hell this is a troll thread...

[comic boy]

It fills my heart with sorrow to know that you have mental scars, comic boy. I hope they fade in time, unlike the possibility of quelling the burning fire of racism which continues unabated in Ron Paul's heart of darkness.

I don't understand. What do you have against Ron Paul? Or is there another underlying reason why you dislike Ron that has nothing to do with the Republican candidate?

He's a Republican, duh?

But why not trick other about Mitt or Newt? Why Ron? It can't just be because he is a Republican. There has to be some other underlying motivation and trickery here.

Possibly, he sees Ron Paul as the most dangerous one as regards pushing Obama out of the White House. A point on which I strongly would agree.

I cant really see the logic in your reasoning , he is not going to get the Republican nomination and if he runs as an independent then Obama is going to win without breaking sweat.

[thegreekdog]

Hi. Ron Paul supporter here - an actual Ron Paul supporter who wants cops to be videotaped and punished for excessive force, wants to stop the US from being world police, and wants a repeal of the Patriot Act. Don't be fooled by the others.

I do care that Ron Paul's newsletter had racist and bigoted statements. I also care that Ron Paul (in 2004) repudiated the statements made in the newsletter, apologized for them, and indicated he was unaware of their content. I believe him. If you don't believe him that's fine (perhaps I'm just a Kool-Aid drinker). However, nothing he's said or done in his public history, apart from these newsletters published with his name on them, has led me to believe he's a racist or bigot. So that's where I come out. If he gets elected president (he won't) and he starts doing things that lead me to believe he's a racist or bigot, I will be the first to criticize him.

[john9blue]

Hi. Ron Paul supporter here - an actual Ron Paul supporter who wants cops to be videotaped and punished for excessive force, wants to stop the US from being world police, and wants a repeal of the Patriot Act. Don't be fooled by the others.

who else on this forum would you consider an "actual ron paul supporter"?