Of These Candidates, Who is A Massive, Proven Racist?

[thegreekdog]

Hi. Ron Paul supporter here - an actual Ron Paul supporter who wants cops to be videotaped and punished for excessive force, wants to stop the US from being world police, and wants a repeal of the Patriot Act. Don't be fooled by the others.

who else on this forum would you consider an "actual ron paul supporter"?

BBS maybe? I'm not sure.

It appears to me that most alleged Ron Paul supporters on this site only really support his fiscal plans, and not his social or international plans. That's fine I suppose, but one can support Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum and get similar fiscal plans (although not exactly the same - Romney, Gingrich, and Santorum's fiscal plans are closer to Obama's fiscal plan than Paul's I suppose).

When one is a fiscal and social conservative (under our current definition of conservative), one does not align with Ron Paul well.

[tkr4lf]

Hi. Ron Paul supporter here - an actual Ron Paul supporter who wants cops to be videotaped and punished for excessive force, wants to stop the US from being world police, and wants a repeal of the Patriot Act. Don't be fooled by the others.

who else on this forum would you consider an "actual ron paul supporter"?

BBS maybe? I'm not sure.

It appears to me that most alleged Ron Paul supporters on this site only really support his fiscal plans, and not his social or international plans. That's fine I suppose, but one can support Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum and get similar fiscal plans (although not exactly the same - Romney, Gingrich, and Santorum's fiscal plans are closer to Obama's fiscal plan than Paul's I suppose).

When one is a fiscal and social conservative (under our current definition of conservative), one does not align with Ron Paul well.

Then you should throw me in that exclusive group of yours. I've been a fan of Paul since the last election almost 4 years ago when the media all but ignored him. I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal, basically I'm a libertarian. All those things you listed as wanting to see from Paul, are all things I would like to see as well. And, I think there are more here who like the whole package as well.

Also, it's not that I don't care about the possibility of racism, it's more the way in which pimpdave brings it up which is ridiculous. He does things that he would consider simple mud slinging if done by the other side towards his candidate of choice.

Pimpdave is a massive hypocrite. He complains about right wing extremism on this website, and how everybody is out to get him, but then he does the same things as the people he hates, and pushes his left wing extremism onto others in much the same way.

It get's old, very quickly. It's no wonder most on this site see him as the massive troll that he is. And not a very good troll either. Good trolls are subtle, Pimpdave is obvious about it. Hmm, maybe everybody is out to get you dave...maybe they don't like you.

[BigBallinStalin]

Hey, man, why so serious? We're talking about pimpdave here.

[Woodruff]

Hi. Ron Paul supporter here - an actual Ron Paul supporter who wants cops to be videotaped and punished for excessive force, wants to stop the US from being world police, and wants a repeal of the Patriot Act. Don't be fooled by the others.

who else on this forum would you consider an "actual ron paul supporter"?

BBS maybe? I'm not sure.

It appears to me that most alleged Ron Paul supporters on this site only really support his fiscal plans, and not his social or international plans. That's fine I suppose, but one can support Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum and get similar fiscal plans (although not exactly the same - Romney, Gingrich, and Santorum's fiscal plans are closer to Obama's fiscal plan than Paul's I suppose).

When one is a fiscal and social conservative (under our current definition of conservative), one does not align with Ron Paul well.

I consider myself a pretty big Ron Paul fan, and have been for some time now. Of course, there are a very few individual positions I would contest, but I like his ideas very much.

[Nola_Lifer]

I like Paul and Mr. Schiff. I found this interesting also.

[pimpdave]

[thegreekdog]

Hey, man, why so serious? We're talking about pimpdave here.

Clearly pimpdave's TPDS threads are serious business.

[john9blue]

BBS maybe? I'm not sure.

It appears to me that most alleged Ron Paul supporters on this site only really support his fiscal plans, and not his social or international plans. That's fine I suppose, but one can support Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum and get similar fiscal plans (although not exactly the same - Romney, Gingrich, and Santorum's fiscal plans are closer to Obama's fiscal plan than Paul's I suppose).

When one is a fiscal and social conservative (under our current definition of conservative), one does not align with Ron Paul well.

you are not even close to being the only "true ron paul fan" on this forum, despite what you may like to think.

you see the occasional warhawkishness of night strike, or the occasional advocacy for civil liberties violations by phatscotty, and you think that most ron paul supporters are equally hypocritical. you are committing the same fallacy as those who think the tea party wasn't started by ron paul and is just a bunch of far-right neocons (who try to latch onto the movement but are ignorant of its roots)

[thegreekdog]

BBS maybe? I'm not sure.

It appears to me that most alleged Ron Paul supporters on this site only really support his fiscal plans, and not his social or international plans. That's fine I suppose, but one can support Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum and get similar fiscal plans (although not exactly the same - Romney, Gingrich, and Santorum's fiscal plans are closer to Obama's fiscal plan than Paul's I suppose).

When one is a fiscal and social conservative (under our current definition of conservative), one does not align with Ron Paul well.

you are not even close to being the only "true ron paul fan" on this forum, despite what you may like to think.

Are there others who are 100% aligned with Ron Paul's views? If so, who? I haven't really seen anyone else.

[john9blue]

you are not even close to being the only "true ron paul fan" on this forum, despite what you may like to think.

Are there others who are 100% aligned with Ron Paul's views? If so, who? I haven't really seen anyone else.

do you have to agree with someone 100% to be a "true fan"?

also, if i recall correctly, you disagreed with paul's immigration policies. have you changed your opinions about that?

personally i agree with at least 90% of what he says (which is significantly more than i agree with any other candidate) so i think that qualifies me as a "true fan"

[thegreekdog]

you are not even close to being the only "true ron paul fan" on this forum, despite what you may like to think.

Are there others who are 100% aligned with Ron Paul's views? If so, who? I haven't really seen anyone else.

do you have to agree with someone 100% to be a "true fan"?

also, if i recall correctly, you disagreed with paul's immigration policies. have you changed your opinions about that?

personally i agree with at least 90% of what he says (which is significantly more than i agree with any other candidate) so i think that qualifies me as a "true fan"

True, I did not think about the immigration policies and my disagreement with them. I suppose I'm a 90% fan.

And welcome to the club. I did not realize you were talking about yourself, so apologies.

As I indicated previously, the qualifications I use to determine whether one is a "true" Ron Paul supporter include more than just fiscal policies. What differentiates Ron Paul from the other candidates are his positions on things like the Patriot Act and foreign intervention. When a person who supports Ron Paul believes that we should have a Patriot Act, that we should have a war with Iran, I don't think that person is really a Ron Paul supporter.