Romeo and Juliet Mafia - Capulet Victory. +Paris+John

[MoB Deadly]

Vote count

[1] Shieldgenerator7 - New Guy, [L-8]
[1] Edocsil - Sg7, [L-8]
[1] TheGeneral2112 - Leehar, [L-8]

[all those guys below have 0 votes but can be voted]
Victor Sullivan
new guy1
dazza2008
Some7hingCLEVER
ghostly447
eldario
Bleed_Green
chapcrap
alt1978
Leehar
NoSurvivors
SPARTACUS1974
jgordon1111

there's 16 alive so 9 votes are needed for a lynch

please make the votes in red, preferably bold and red just to make sure i see them.

[edocsil]

Ok I am lost already

Why is General claiming?

Because as I said before, I am looking for members of my faction. I can out because I am 100% invincible. I cannot be killed at night or lynched during the day. Would you like to test this? I would rather not waste the lynch, but if you all want to do that, I am game.

I'm a bit concerned there, are you also safe from poisoning? else you could be in trouble...
(if in fact there is a poisoner)

Take a look at Cait Sith from FFVII. Surviving was the easy part, winning was a good deal harder. Its not uncommon for a role like that to claim d1.

[SPARTACUS1974]

Should we test General or just believe him? He has lied already so I would like to test him.

where did the General lie?

He is saying that his role is the reason the edoc's faction was revealed but it is my role that does it.

Unless we both do and we both targetted edoc.

this seems highly unlikely that 2 roles do the same and target the same person on the same night .so which 1 of you is brother jon ?

[shieldgenerator7]

to me it seems brother jon is the one who reported on edoc.

me thinks thegeneral got blocked last night, thus no reporting (if his role reports things like that).
But didn't he say his role doesn't report players' roles?

And I would imagine that both sides have about the same kind of roles, and equal numbers. Thus, if there's ay third party, there would probably be an even amount of third party. So far it seems we have 2 third party, which means 14 others, so about 7 montague, 7 capulet. Not a bad sized force.

-SG7 ( )

[SPARTACUS1974]

ahh so if the general is third party and like he says we cant kill him , his role is just to give away info on both sides as with brother jon so is he invincible also ? this could be 1 of the twists the mod mentioned at the start.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

wow im already lost
but first i dont understand why he would claim i know you said its cause your invinsible but i think if i was i wouldnt say anything about it ...but thats just me...but then again i guess its cause he is trying to find his faction ...just so confused lol
and i know you have said you are invinsible alot but you said during night and day
so would that mean your invinsible in twilight to (never played with twilight so dont know exactly what happens during then)
once again im so lost lol
i feel like testing him just to be sure because i dont wanna find out later that it screws us over cause we didnt lol
vote General
and if he is telling the truth then i would have rather wasted a day 1 lynch than lose the game

[dazza2008]

I am very confused by General.

He said he is the third party who is revealing roles. Then he is looking for the other members of his faction. Is a third party in a faction? I always thought they were alone in games.

Vote General.

[SPARTACUS1974]

you do make a good point about the early claim and this invincibility because he has nio need to claim and with his claim how does it help him find the other members? so with this lets test him out .
[b][color=#FF0000]vote general

[SPARTACUS1974]

sorry no colour
vote general

[edocsil]

Christ. Revenge of the rookies. We don't know General's role, just his name. Someone needed to know who he was and there was little risk involved for him so he claimed. Unless I totally miss my guess he was looking for Romeo and Juliet. Now the know him, and frankly I am fine with that. The families are going to try to decimate each other while R and J try to survive with a few of the others. This isn't Scum vs Town, killing the third party is just stupid.

[dazza2008]

Christ. Revenge of the rookies. We don't know General's role, just his name. Someone needed to know who he was and there was little risk involved for him so he claimed. Unless I totally miss my guess he was looking for Romeo and Juliet. Now the know him, and frankly I am fine with that. The families are going to try to decimate each other while R and J try to survive with a few of the others. This isn't Scum vs Town, killing the third party is just stupid.

Not sure I understand this game at all then. I know nothing of Romeo and Juliet. I never thought it would be a problem but it seems it might. Maybe it would be better for me to be replaced here.

[SPARTACUS1974]

so the 3rd party must have a endgame as the other factions?
and the name general said i have not seen on any character lists at all on any R&J plays

[dazza2008]

To me when we first started talking about a third party revealing the faction of players. General said "I am that third party". Now he is saying different.

What is it and what the f*ck should we be doing?

[jgordon1111]

Ok everyone steady, dont have to know romeo and juliet to play just use some sense here. It would fit that romeo and juliet are third party and if the general is telling the truth,his endgame would be to insure they survive he loses if they die, and it would be acceptable for him to be invincible and claim to let them know. now the problem if he is a different faction trying to draw them out that doesnt make sense,they dont have to claim to be safe and they know who he is now. So that leaves the 2 families killing each other off and possibly them as well to win.

If romeo dies I believe juliet might as well therefore the general loses. So to keep the game even there is probably a fourth third party a protective role.

that player now knows he doesnt have to protect the general maybe so putting the general to the vote will only be a problem if you think about it for a minute.

[SPARTACUS1974]

unvote general that does make sense so R&J have to stay alive to win and the CAPULETS and MONTAGUES have to kill each other to win so its looking like 6capulets ,6montagues and 4 3rd party
BUT there could also be a forth group who win if R&J die.these could be COUNT PARIS .

[shieldgenerator7]

so if R&J need to stay alive in order for the third party to win, then that means it conflicts with the montague/capulet fuedal win condition of destroying the other side. So this means third party can't win with either side.

But they are no threat to us, besides, they help expose sides like they did with edoc, and it'll help us unite our brethren.

I wonder if each side got equal roles...

-SG7 ( )

[Eldario]

unvote general that does make sense so R&J have to stay alive to win and the CAPULETS and MONTAGUES have to kill each other to win so its looking like 6capulets ,6montagues and 4 3rd party
BUT there could also be a forth group who win if R&J die.these could be COUNT PARIS .

if this is true then there is likely a 8 3-party players Mercrucio, John, Paris, Escalus,Lorenzio,Romeo,Juliet and the Apothecary
I personaly think Romeo and Juliet are still in their familys so, 5 capulets 5 montagues and 6 3-party I would say


copied of Wikipedia:

House of Capulet
Capulet
Capulet's wife
Juliet
Tybalt - capulet vig
The Nurse / (Peter, Sampson or Gregory)

House of Montague
Montague
Montague's wife
Romeo
Benvolio - montague vig? does not quit fit his role but the most likely
Abram or Balthasar

[Leehar]

Christ. Revenge of the rookies. We don't know General's role, just his name. Someone needed to know who he was and there was little risk involved for him so he claimed. Unless I totally miss my guess he was looking for Romeo and Juliet. Now the know him, and frankly I am fine with that. The families are going to try to decimate each other while R and J try to survive with a few of the others. This isn't Scum vs Town, killing the third party is just stupid.

Not sure I understand this game at all then. I know nothing of Romeo and Juliet. I never thought it would be a problem but it seems it might. Maybe it would be better for me to be replaced here.

Nah, I think it's the point that we all get confused here Zimmah did say he'd explain the setup if there are enough newbs, but I think staying in the dark doesn't hurt.

General, would you like to unmuddy the waters on whether you're 3rd party or a 'green' I think it was? Or something else entirely?

so if R&J need to stay alive in order for the third party to win, then that means it conflicts with the montague/capulet fuedal win condition of destroying the other side. So this means third party can't win with either side.

But they are no threat to us, besides, they help expose sides like they did with edoc, and it'll help us unite our brethren.

I wonder if each side got equal roles...

-SG7 ( )

How do you know what win conditions people have?

[Eldario]

unvote general that does make sense so R&J have to stay alive to win and the CAPULETS and MONTAGUES have to kill each other to win so its looking like 6capulets ,6montagues and 4 3rd party
BUT there could also be a forth group who win if R&J die.these could be COUNT PARIS .

if this is true then there is likely a 8 3-party players Mercrucio, John, Paris, Escalus,Lorenzio,Romeo,Juliet and the Apothecary
I personaly think Romeo and Juliet are still in their familys so, 5 capulets 5 montagues and 6 3-party I would say


copied of Wikipedia:

House of Capulet
Capulet
Capulet's wife
Juliet
Tybalt - capulet vig
The Nurse / (Peter, Sampson or Gregory)

House of Montague
Montague
Montague's wife
Romeo
Benvolio - montague vig? does not quit fit his role but the most likely
Abram or Balthasar

I would also guess that either the servants or the wives are the doctors, most likely the servants

[TheGeneral2112]

Should we test General or just believe him? He has lied already so I would like to test him.

where did the General lie?

He is saying that his role is the reason the edoc's faction was revealed but it is my role that does it.

Unless we both do and we both targetted edoc.

Stop fucking skimming you retards...

sorry for the double post, Ok edoc then whoever reveals the roles that is their action then,still could be third party highlighting players to be targeted.

I am that third party. I am doing nothing of the sort.

To be very clear, I am Brother Lor.

But nice job on outting your role while thinking I was claiming it. I figured you all would want to test me, but you do understand you may waste your day/lynch by doing so, right?

[TheGeneral2112]

unvote general that does make sense so R&J have to stay alive to win and the CAPULETS and MONTAGUES have to kill each other to win so its looking like 6capulets ,6montagues and 4 3rd party
BUT there could also be a forth group who win if R&J die.these could be COUNT PARIS .

How do you know about the Count?

[shieldgenerator7]

Christ. Revenge of the rookies. We don't know General's role, just his name. Someone needed to know who he was and there was little risk involved for him so he claimed. Unless I totally miss my guess he was looking for Romeo and Juliet. Now the know him, and frankly I am fine with that. The families are going to try to decimate each other while R and J try to survive with a few of the others. This isn't Scum vs Town, killing the third party is just stupid.

Not sure I understand this game at all then. I know nothing of Romeo and Juliet. I never thought it would be a problem but it seems it might. Maybe it would be better for me to be replaced here.

Nah, I think it's the point that we all get confused here Zimmah did say he'd explain the setup if there are enough newbs, but I think staying in the dark doesn't hurt.

General, would you like to unmuddy the waters on whether you're 3rd party or a 'green' I think it was? Or something else entirely?

so if R&J need to stay alive in order for the third party to win, then that means it conflicts with the montague/capulet fuedal win condition of destroying the other side. So this means third party can't win with either side.

But they are no threat to us, besides, they help expose sides like they did with edoc, and it'll help us unite our brethren.

I wonder if each side got equal roles...

-SG7 ( )

How do you know what win conditions people have?

For one: being it's the feuded Romeo and Juliet theme, it's quite obvious the two families' win conditions are to destroy each other. Two: about third party, I don't know. It's mere speculation based on what others have said.

[Leehar]

unvote general that does make sense so R&J have to stay alive to win and the CAPULETS and MONTAGUES have to kill each other to win so its looking like 6capulets ,6montagues and 4 3rd party
BUT there could also be a forth group who win if R&J die.these could be COUNT PARIS .

How do you know about the Count?

Because he's in the actual play, unlike your Brother Lor, duh!

And it's not a waste to test you, since at least that way what you say is confirmed, instead of just an elaborate scheme with how scummy you're seemingly acting.

and sg, where's the mention of feuded r&j?
All I remember about the play is that they both suicide for each other, so I'm just interested on how that'll pan out.

[dazza2008]

Should we test General or just believe him? He has lied already so I would like to test him.

where did the General lie?

He is saying that his role is the reason the edoc's faction was revealed but it is my role that does it.

Unless we both do and we both targetted edoc.

Stop fucking skimming you retards...

Is it skimming or misunderstanding what you said? No need to be a complete fucking cock about it is there?

[shieldgenerator7]

unvote general that does make sense so R&J have to stay alive to win and the CAPULETS and MONTAGUES have to kill each other to win so its looking like 6capulets ,6montagues and 4 3rd party
BUT there could also be a forth group who win if R&J die.these could be COUNT PARIS .

How do you know about the Count?

Because he's in the actual play, unlike your Brother Lor, duh!

And it's not a waste to test you, since at least that way what you say is confirmed, instead of just an elaborate scheme with how scummy you're seemingly acting.

and sg, where's the mention of feuded r&j?
All I remember about the play is that they both suicide for each other, so I'm just interested on how that'll pan out.

well the play is about two families that are in a big feud. With two big "equal" factions liek that, what elsecould their win condition be?