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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby Swimmerdude99 on Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:57 pm

pimpdave wrote:
swimmerdude99 wrote:My 3 cousins in the Marines... my uncle... my grandfather... my best friends sister is in the military...? I'm not sure what you are getting at here, that post made no point, and addressed nothing I said.


So that makes you an expert? What does your best friend's sister say?


What is your military experience?
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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby oVo on Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:48 pm

There is a risk when you enter this world. There is a risk when you go to war.
There should be no risk for a woman who joins the army, just because she is
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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby Aradhus on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:02 pm

the carpet man wrote:okay hippys maybe you did not read: i am not saying that it is okay for the women to be raped. i am saying that there is a risk when the woman joins the army. think: it recruits people who can't find employment anywhere else (low intelligence) and how want to kill people (vicious nature)

there is obviously danger there, same as walking through the favelas


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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:31 pm

Men are not the same as women. There are immense differences and if you ignore that basic reality you do so at your own peril.

Imagine for a second, a woman plays on a team in the NBA. Do you think the team really wants that kind of circus? How can you not understand that something like that will take a lot of focus off of the game, the strategy, the locker room, the media, the attention, team chemistry. Oh but it's a good idea because it will sell a lot of jerseys/voters.

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Plus, I know plenty of ladies who have went into the military only to get knocked up in the first 2 months and come back home.

In order to ensure that a military member’s pregnancy does not have a negative impact on military operations, the Department of Defense (DoD) and the individual military services should ensure that they have robust training programs in place to educate both men and women on their responsibilities as potential parents, the options to prevent unplanned pregnancies, and their obligations to meet their service commitments. Additionally, each Service must prepare assignment policies that will allow quick filling of billets, including for reasons of pregnancy.


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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby Lootifer on Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:58 pm

Phatscotty wrote:Men are not the same as women. There are immense differences and if you ignore that basic reality you do so at your own peril.

Few of which have much of a bearing on their capacity as a soldier; if they can pass the tests, accept the culture and get on with the job there's no reason for any kind of inequality. I'd hazard to guess that most annoyance in front line woman soldiers is caused, not by sexual advances but, by idiots like you with outdated opinions on "where woman belong"

Imagine for a second, a woman plays on a team in the NBA. Do you think the team really wants that kind of circus? How can you not understand that something like that will take a lot of focus off of the game, the strategy, the locker room, the media, the attention, team chemistry. Oh but it's a good idea because it will sell a lot of jerseys/voters.

Yes but were talking about soldiering here; to convert this into your analogy, all that matters (at the end of the day) is what happens on the court. If she performs at the expected NBA level then good on her.
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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby natty dread on Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:26 am

Phatscotty wrote:Men are not the same as women.


Yeah, the BIBLE says so.
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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:48 am

natty dread wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Men are not the same as women.


Yeah, the BIBLE says so.


Natty, I have some stuff you should check out



nothing about the Bible, but plenty about Columbia University professors and P.H.D's, and how proud Darwin would be

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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby the carpet man on Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:17 am

exactly phatscotty. people are too concerned with 'it is everyone's right to do everything all of the time'

they turn this into an issue of oppression or inequality when really it is not
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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:45 am

So, you guys saying women should be banned from the army/police/firefighters?
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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby oVo on Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:58 am

You should probably enlist carpet man, you seem to have the proper military aptitude. Of course a soldier's military status should be achieved on merit only and not simply advanced to meet desired squad numbers. That being said, NOBODY ESCAPES BASIC TRAINING or boot camp without meeting specific requirements and no woman should have to worry about being sexually assaulted by the goons she serves with regardless of rank.
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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby natty dread on Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:06 am

Phatscotty wrote:nothing about the Bible, but plenty about Columbia University professors and P.H.D's, and how proud Darwin would be


Oh wait, is that an appeal to authority I see hanging from your metaphorical shoe like a soggy piece of metaphorical toilet paper?

Phatscotty wrote:Why men never remember and why women never forget


Scotty, here's something I really think you should read. It's a pretty objectively written piece about all of these popular studies that purport to find some "hard-wired" differences between men and women, and also why a lot of these studies are methodologically flawed.

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/gue ... me-planet/
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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby Swimmerdude99 on Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:46 am

Haggis_McMutton wrote:So, you guys saying women should be banned from the army/police/firefighters?


For some reason I feel like this isn't a solid statement because nobody said that... You have inferred that and stated it in a way that makes people sound like idiots. Great argument right here. I'll add:

So you guys are saying you hate women and think they should be slaves?

Seriously dude, take what is said, not reform it :)
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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:28 am

swimmerdude99 wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:So, you guys saying women should be banned from the army/police/firefighters?


For some reason I feel like this isn't a solid statement because nobody said that... You have inferred that and stated it in a way that makes people sound like idiots. Great argument right here. I'll add:

So you guys are saying you hate women and think they should be slaves?

Seriously dude, take what is said, not reform it :)


That isn't a solid statement because it's a question not a statement.

I was trying to get them to clarify their bullshit so it could then be thoroughly busted, while they stay up in the air with "Hey women are different than men, I'll just leave this video here but I won't actually take a stance on the issue" you can't really touch the nonsense.

So please make a statement, what does this difference between men and women entail? How should government act based on this difference?
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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby pimpdave on Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:31 am

Conservatives hate women.

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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:33 pm

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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:42 pm

natty dread wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Men are not the same as women.


Yeah, the BIBLE says so.



natty dread wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:nothing about the Bible, but plenty about Columbia University professors and P.H.D's, and how proud Darwin would be


Oh wait, is that an appeal to authority I see hanging from your metaphorical shoe like a soggy piece of metaphorical toilet paper?


No, it's just the opposite of the authority you originally introduced, out of left field... kind of like your response here.
I will take a leap of faith here and guess you reject the Bible. If no, why did you bring the Bible up? I certainly didn't.


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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby natty dread on Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:16 pm

Phatscotty wrote:No, it's just the opposite of the authority you originally introduced


Oh wait, the bible is an "authority" now?

Phatscotty wrote:out of left field... kind of like your response here.


But unlike your response where you only quote part of my post and disregard the actual content of the post?

Are you dodging, Scotty?

Are you?

Phatscotty wrote:I will take a leap of faith here and guess you reject the Bible. If no, why did you bring the Bible up? I certainly didn't.


Do you refute the fact that the bible says men are superior to women?

Phatscotty wrote:Try to keep it together


Try to be honest for once, Scotty.
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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby the carpet man on Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:05 pm

all i am saying is that women obviously face the risk. same as the woman who gets drunk and leaves a club alone faces a risk. bad if it happens to them but not anything you can really stop.

they can still enlist if they want to but, be realistic about the risk. do not act all suprise when a woman surrounded by trained killing men is attacked.
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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby natty dread on Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:10 pm

the carpet man wrote:all i am saying is that women obviously face the risk. same as the woman who gets drunk and leaves a club alone faces a risk. bad if it happens to them but not anything you can really stop.

they can still enlist if they want to but, be realistic about the risk. do not act all suprise when a woman surrounded by trained killing men is attacked.


Nice victim-blaming.
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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby the carpet man on Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:14 pm

if i walk through a favela of rio de janeiro waving my wallet around going 'i have money', was there not a risk i took as well as a robber who did a nasty thing to rob me?

do not join the military if you do not want things to be tough. that is the nature of military. go and do a civilian job. you can not shoot men in the head and occupy foreign lands and then be timid about personal matters.
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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby Woodruff on Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:14 pm

the carpet man wrote:all i am saying is that women obviously face the risk. same as the woman who gets drunk and leaves a club alone faces a risk. bad if it happens to them but not anything you can really stop.

they can still enlist if they want to but, be realistic about the risk. do not act all suprise when a woman surrounded by trained killing men is attacked.


As someone who served in the military for 23 years, this is a load of horseshit.
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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby the carpet man on Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:15 pm

what branch of military were you? the branch that talks about its feelings?
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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby Woodruff on Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:16 pm

the carpet man wrote:what branch of military were you? the branch that talks about its feelings?


Is there a branch that talks about it's feelings? I'm unaware of that one.
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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby natty dread on Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:18 pm

the carpet man wrote:if i walk through a favela of rio de janeiro waving my wallet around going 'i have money',


Oh, I see. You equate women who drink alcohol with waving your wallet in a favela?

In other words... women who drink are inviting rape by being drunk? And women who go to military are inviting rape by... serving their country?
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Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!

Postby natty dread on Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:20 pm

the carpet man wrote:what branch of military were you? the branch that talks about its feelings?


What's wrong about talking about feelings?
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