Why Are Conservatives Misogynists?

[AAFitz]

America, the land of the free unless you're female, black, hispanic, catholic, disadvantaged, poor, handicapped, atheist or a visible minority.

Your country is moving backwards....rapidly.

Actually, conservatives don't look at people using any of those descriptors. Conservatives look at people and judge them based on the content of their character, not the color of their skin or whichever other group they can be sub-set into. It's the liberal policies that are designed to cater to specific groups, foster resentment towards others, etc. Conservatives want ALL people to be free regardless of their stature or appearance, yet a big government prevents that from happening.

That is absolutely the funniest thing you ever have said, or ever will say.

[oVo]

Actually, conservatives don't look at people using any of those descriptors.Conservatives look at people and judge them based on the content of their character, not the color of their skin or whichever other group they can be sub-set into. It's the liberal policies that are designed to cater to specific groups, foster resentment towards others, etc. Conservatives want ALL people to be free regardless of their stature or appearance,
yet a big government prevents that from happening.

That is absolutely the funniest thing you ever have said, or ever will say.

+1

[Woodruff]

DUDE WTF

WHY OH WHY

Did you post the lightest-skinned women of each race? You look just as bad as NS now. The Indian looks like a typical woman from Des Moines.

I should've grown up in Des Moines.

[pimpdave]

Yeah, but seriously, all of those images were women who had some European in them, the thin noses, the high cheekbones. Weird post to say the least.

[natty dread]

Plastic surgery.

Everyone wants to look caucasian these days. For example, people in india are paying huge amounts for nose jobs etc. that make them look more "western". Especially those who are looking for jobs in western countries like america.

It's a sick reflection of the inherent racism in western culture.

[pimpdave]

Or just a reflection of the cultural dominance of the West.

[pimpdave]

Back on topic. Why do Conservatives hate women? Is it because so many of them are closeted homosexuals who are just one trip to the airport bathroom away from being exposed?

[natty dread]

Back on topic. Why do Conservatives hate women? Is it because so many of them are closeted homosexuals who are just one trip to the airport bathroom away from being exposed?

No, I think that's a stupid argument to make. That would imply that homosexuality would lead to misogyny, which it doesn't.

I already posted why I think conservatives (and people in general) are misogynist, maybe you missed the post.

[pimpdave]

Sounds like you've never seen Reality Bites.

[the carpet man]

natty, when a man does not wish for women to gain more power in society it is not because he is a sexist.

at present, men enjoy more power. in particular, the white man enjoys most power (across the world).

any giving of power to women, other ethnicities etc. will cause the white man to lose power. the white man, obviously, does not want to lose power. so he tries to stop power going to women, blacks, others. it is not because he 'hates women', it is because he wants to preserve his dominance.

[sundance123]

That The Priest Magically Turns Wine and Crackers into actual Blood and Flesh.

Crackers? WTF man those things are wafers not crackers. You known as much about biscuits as you do catholicism.
Why would anybody turn a cracker into flesh? It would be way too dry . . . .

[notyou2]

That The Priest Magically Turns Wine and Crackers into actual Blood and Flesh.

Crackers? WTF man those things are wafers not crackers. You known as much about biscuits as you do catholicism.
Why would anybody turn a cracker into flesh? It would be way too dry . . . .

Does BBQ sauce help?

[natty dread]

natty, when a man does not wish for women to gain more power in society it is not because he is a sexist.

Quote of the year.

[tkr4lf]

DUDE WTF

WHY OH WHY

Did you post the lightest-skinned women of each race? You look just as bad as NS now. The Indian looks like a typical woman from Des Moines. This race - baiting has got to stop.

Sorry, I just googled "hot white woman", "hot black woman", "hot hispanic woman", "hot japanese woman", etc., etc. I just picked the one with the best body from the first page. So blame google, not me.

[tkr4lf]

I think any guy who wouldn't have sex with any of these women is either gay, incredibly racist, or a liar.

Or has erectile dysfunction or no penis at all.

Or he is in a committed monogamous relationship
Or he is asexual
Or he likes kinky sex and all those girls are too vanilla
Or he wants to get to know his partner first and isn't interested in one-night stands

Or a million other very legitimate reasons why a man might not want to have sex with any conventionally attractive woman that "lets him".

Seriously guys, stop perpetuating the stereotype that all men are mindless horndogs whose brains turn off the minute they see T&A. It's these "if you don't tap that you must be gay, hur hur" memes that are the reason why men who get raped by women do not get taken seriously, and why asexual or low-libido men are either treated like they don't exist or else treated like some kind of freaks.

I do not approve.

Would you have sex with any of those women?

I mean, if one of those women came up to you and said, "Hey, I want you to f*ck me right here, right now.", would you do it? I think you would. Or, at the very least, I think you would want to very badly.

Also, it was all a kind of a joke based off of one statement out of JB's post...my post wasn't a statement about how all men are horndogs or whatever your latest soapbox is. It was more of a statement that a person would have to be extremely fucking racist to think that one of those women are unfuckable due their skin color.

[natty dread]

Would you have sex with any of those women?

I mean, if one of those women came up to you and said, "Hey, I want you to f*ck me right here, right now.", would you do it? I think you would. Or, at the very least, I think you would want to very badly.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Why do you assume that I would? Why do you assume that I would want to? Because I'm a man, and men always want sex all the time?

Also, it was all a kind of a joke based off of one statement out of JB's post...my post wasn't a statement about how all men are horndogs or whatever your latest soapbox is.

Maybe not, but it certainly had the implication. You don't have to purposefully perpetuate a stereotype to perpetuate a stereotype - often, these things are so ingrained in our culture, that we're not even aware of them until they are pointed out to us. I don't blame you for that.

Kind of like how you just assumed that I would have sex with a random woman I don't know if she just came up to me and said "let's have sex". I'm sure you didn't mean to be purposefully misandrist, but the idea is just so prevalent that you've come to regard it as an "obvious" thing. I mean, just try to find any piece of popular culture that doesn't in some way perpetuate the stereotype of men as the "active" party and women as the "passive" party in sexual relationships... music, sitcom tv-shows, advertising... it's everywhere.

[tkr4lf]

Would you have sex with any of those women?

I mean, if one of those women came up to you and said, "Hey, I want you to f*ck me right here, right now.", would you do it? I think you would. Or, at the very least, I think you would want to very badly.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Why do you assume that I would? Why do you assume that I would want to? Because I'm a man, and men always want sex all the time?

I assume that you would because as you say, it is the stereotype that most men would. You are right, it is a cultural stereotype, but not one that isn't rooted in reality. From what I understand, it's an evolutionary trait for men to want to and try to spread their seed amongst as many different women as possible, as this leads to the greatest possibility of successfully carrying on your genes.

Does it hold true for every single man? No, it probably doesn't. But I think that for the majority, it does. I guess people like you (Apparently? I'm not sure, you never gave an answer.) would be the exception to the rule. Or, it could be as you say, and I'm just unconsciously perpetuating a false/negative stereotype.

Also, it was all a kind of a joke based off of one statement out of JB's post...my post wasn't a statement about how all men are horndogs or whatever your latest soapbox is.

Maybe not, but it certainly had the implication. You don't have to purposefully perpetuate a stereotype to perpetuate a stereotype - often, these things are so ingrained in our culture, that we're not even aware of them until they are pointed out to us. I don't blame you for that.

Kind of like how you just assumed that I would have sex with a random woman I don't know if she just came up to me and said "let's have sex". I'm sure you didn't mean to be purposefully misandrist, but the idea is just so prevalent that you've come to regard it as an "obvious" thing. I mean, just try to find any piece of popular culture that doesn't in some way perpetuate the stereotype of men as the "active" party and women as the "passive" party in sexual relationships... music, sitcom tv-shows, advertising... it's everywhere.

You are correct here, as well. Popular media depicts men as always wanting sex and aggressively seeking it. Occasionally women are depicted that way, but then they are called sluts. It is an unfair double standard.

I guess I just assume that most guys would jump at the opportunity to sleep with a woman that looks like the above women, considering many of us (and I suspect most on this site ) wouldn't be able to land that in a million years.

Anyway, no, I didn't mean to be purposefully misandrist. But, I can see how it would come across as seeming like that. Truth be told, I kind of am. I'm also racist, sexist, ageist, pretty much everything -ist. But that's just because I'm a misanthrope. So it's nothing personal to any of these groups. It's not because you're black or white or a woman or a man or gay or straight or short or tall or fat or skinny or popular or a loser that I don't like you. It's because you're a human being that I don't like you. (Not you in particular, just speaking in generalities here.) There's some individuals that I like, but for the most part, all you people can take a flying leap into a burning pile of shit for all I care.

I'm not sure what the purpose of that last paragraph was, since it doesn't really relate to your post much. I guess I just wanted you guys to know. I'm a nice guy like that.

[natty dread]

I assume that you would because as you say, it is the stereotype that most men would. You are right, it is a cultural stereotype, but not one that isn't rooted in reality. From what I understand, it's an evolutionary trait for men to want to and try to spread their seed amongst as many different women as possible, as this leads to the greatest possibility of successfully carrying on your genes.

From what I understand, 99% of popular evo-psych is pure bollocks. Trying to explain complex human behaviour with "evolutionary traits" or comparing humans to lower mammals is overly simplistic and fallacious. We don't have sex because we're subconsciously yearning to spread our genes, we have sex because it feels good, and that applies to all genders.

The funny thing is, anyone who keeps their eyes open can see that this stereotype isn't rooted in reality. Women and men both have varying libidos. Some women want sex all the time, and some men never want sex. It's only because our culture expects men to want sex and women to not want sex, that most conform to that ideal.

Does it hold true for every single man? No, it probably doesn't. But I think that for the majority, it does.

I don't think it does. I think most people who behave like that just do it because it's what they think is expected from them. And who can blame them? In our culture, the cultural narrative about sex is entirely performance-centric. You're not a "real man" if you can't satisfy a woman. You have to be able to perform intercourse for at least X minutes or you're a loser. And of course, the more you have sex, the more your masculinity is validated.

And similarly, women are expected to be passive, and never show any active interest towards sex, and never initiate a relationship or even sex. Even though it's clear that most women have very active sex drives and do find sex enjoyable.

I guess people like you (Apparently? I'm not sure, you never gave an answer.) would be the exception to the rule.

Actually, I have a very active libido, but I live in a stable monogamous relationship with my gf, so I'm not interested in banging other women. Do I feel attracted to other women, sure, occasionally. But not in a way that would make me want to have sex with them.

You are correct here, as well. Popular media depicts men as always wanting sex and aggressively seeking it. Occasionally women are depicted that way, but then they are called sluts. It is an unfair double standard.

I guess I just assume that most guys would jump at the opportunity to sleep with a woman that looks like the above women, considering many of us (and I suspect most on this site ) wouldn't be able to land that in a million years.

Ok, I'm sure you're not doing it on purpose, again... but... "land that"? When you say it like that, you make it sound like it's some kind of achievement or a badge of honour to have sex with a woman who is conventionally attractive... That's just another ugly stereotype, seeing women as "conquests", or like achievements in a video game... the more conventionally attractive woman you can trick into your bed, the more "points" you get.

That aside, there's an awful lot of assumptions there... How do you know anyone on this site couldn't have sex with a woman that looks like those in those pictures? Heck, you don't know anything about those women, their preferences, what kind of men they like. You only assume because of their appearance that they would only have sex with a certain type of man, and then you assume that no one on this site is that type of man.

Anyway, no, I didn't mean to be purposefully misandrist. But, I can see how it would come across as seeming like that. Truth be told, I kind of am. I'm also racist, sexist, ageist, pretty much everything -ist. But that's just because I'm a misanthrope.

Well, at least you admit it. That's very good, actually. We all have some prejudices and stereotypes. The ones who try to claim that they don't have any prejudices or are unaffected by stereotypes are the ones who won't even notice their own prejudices, and thus can't help them. But if you admit that you do have some prejudices, or stereotypical thought patterns, then you can work towards not letting them affect your judgement.

[Juan_Bottom]

Wow this thread got gay.

[natty dread]

Are you feeling fabulous today, Juan?

[ViperOverLord]

^^^Gay ^^^

Why, congratulations Juan, you've just reached the level of humour of a 3-year old.

Gosh Juan. I mean gee whiz.

[ViperOverLord]

That ad is gay.

This seems like a hypocritical statement given how much you've protested alleged homophobic slurs by conservatives.

--Yes, PD pulled this quote before I countered.

[pimpdave]

Haha, that's a funny response to post right after someone posted that ad.

I think it's clever that you ascribed it to me, cause then you can get the joke out while avoiding any potential "Imperial entanglements" from hypersensitive mods with an itchy trigger finger for a bigotry ban. But I never said it, so nice try.

[ViperOverLord]

Haha, that's a funny response to post right after someone posted that ad.

I think it's clever that you ascribed it to me, cause then you can get the joke out while avoiding any potential "Imperial entanglements" from hypersensitive mods with an itchy trigger finger for a bigotry ban. But I never said it, so nice try.

I ascribed it to you b/c you said it liar. Perhaps others saw it too. But this is not the first time I've caught you bold faced lying.

As for the joke, I have no interest in putting out lame witticisms for the sake of it.

[the carpet man]

natty, when a man does not wish for women to gain more power in society it is not because he is a sexist.

Quote of the year.

and i suppose you win the award for deliberately ignoring my justification of that statement