Romeo and Juliet Mafia - Capulet Victory. +Paris+John

[dazza2008]

ok if you just read my psot and got confused,
in the paragraph beginning with "also", "last night" refered to N1, and "tonight" referred to N2.
in the following paragraph, "last night" refers to N2.
sorry for the confusion and double psot.

-SG7 ( )

last night was night 3, it's N1, D1, N2, D2, N3, D3. since we started with a night.

Maybe you should have started with night 0 to avoid confusion. Its cool though. Now you have explained it should be fine.

[dazza2008]

I targetted No Survivors since he has been quite quiet throughout. Bleed has too but I am sure he said he was away.

I also found out No's role. Is it worth sharing that info since he is not aligned to the families or not?

[edocsil]

If the role is vastly diminished by its reveal, you should tell us. Use your discretion.

[jgordon1111]

No dazza do not reveal it please, he is third party and it seems the WC's for third party are an overall win for everyone,much the same as yours By just surviving you are not a danger to anyone.

[edocsil]

No dazza do not reveal it please, he is third party and it seems the WC's for third party are an overall win for everyone,much the same as yours By just surviving you are not a danger to anyone.

We don't know what the orangish survivors WC is really. We also don't know much about the true setup and more info will give us more to talk about.

[new guy1]

im going to go with edoc on this one and say reveal his role. i dont see much harm in it, as the only threat may be that a vig would want him dead in which we could probably get protection for him or something like that if we found it was REALLY nessessary...

[edocsil]

im going to go with edoc on this one and say reveal his role. i dont see much harm in it, as the only threat may be that a vig would want him dead in which we could probably get protection for him or something like that if we found it was REALLY nessessary...

He needs some time to sort it out I guess. May as well give it to him.

[ghostly447]

im going to go with edoc on this one and say reveal his role. i dont see much harm in it, as the only threat may be that a vig would want him dead in which we could probably get protection for him or something like that if we found it was REALLY nessessary...

Agreed here and with edoc.

[jgordon1111]

do we have enough protective roles to cover edoc,dazza and now possibly no survivors if his role is needed? that was my reason for saying no to this. If it cant harm us then no need to know it,just to satisfy curiosity.

[new guy1]

that makes sense, if its something like a survivor role where they arent a harm to the town, i suppose for the sake of their win condition it could remain secretive.

[dazza2008]

No dazza do not reveal it please, he is third party and it seems the WC's for third party are an overall win for everyone,much the same as yours By just surviving you are not a danger to anyone.

We don't know what the orangish survivors WC is really. We also don't know much about the true setup and more info will give us more to talk about.

I do not think he is a threat to be honest due to the colour so I will keep his role a secret.

[jgordon1111]

yes dazza just in case no one else noticed his colour is the same as yours thats why I inferred about being like you as a no threat. his is to survive until the end.

[TheGeneral2112]

There may have been no kill if the vig targeted me to check my invincibility. Or the vig may have targeted a doc save.

[jgordon1111]

Hmm maybe general, but I think of the 2 possibilities it would have been you targeted to test,because unless the vig hasnt been reading they knew that dazza and edoc were going to be covered if everything went according to plan and if thats the case thank those of you that did, do it again just the same next round, cover the same players you did last night.

[TheGeneral2112]

LMFAO I found us an autowin here. Everyone claim with the name of your character. There are no fake claims and we will be able to find vig easy. THEN the two docs can cover Romeo and Juliet claims tonight. Either vig will be forced to cc a role or they will claim their real character name, which I know is vig. LMFAO So pro. I think Spartacus may be the other vig, but post your character name and we will get to the bottom of this.

[jgordon1111]

LOL good idea general,but I took a shot last night and blocked someone besides Edoc,might be the other reason that the vig didnt make it. Just waiting for him to post his thoughts on last night. Then again I might have went wrong and we can go your way.

[TheGeneral2112]

LOL good idea general,but I took a shot last night and blocked someone besides Edoc,might be the other reason that the vig didnt make it. Just waiting for him to post his thoughts on last night. Then again I might have went wrong and we can go your way.

Out who you blocked. We just have to ask for his character name. I am like 95% sure that we have this.

[jgordon1111]

well the person I blocked last night was Alt1978

[shieldgenerator7]

honestly I think the vigs alternate nights.

I think the no kill last night is due to the montague vig's death.

But I don't know this for sure, it's possible the vig just got blocked last night, but I think the vigs alternate nights like in CLUE.

-SG7 ( )

[chapcrap]

SG7, why would the vigs take turns? That doesn't even make sense. It seems like the vigs have either been trying to be careful, been blocked, or the doc(s) have saved people. I really, really doubt they alternate nights.

I agreed with edoc and ghostly and new guy1, dazza should reveal the role.

jgordon, every third party person probably has a different win condition. Third parties are not all aligned. They are probably all on their own.

jgordon, you already said that you were a Montague and your win condition was to have the capulets dead. How do you think that helping General win will make that happen for you? How do you think that you will win if you help General? Not everyone can win. Bottom line. Multiple people and factions might be able to win, but not everyone. What would be the point of the game then?

If everyone was going to mass claim, what is the point of the game? There is no reason for that at this stage.

[jgordon1111]

ok sg7 better safe than sorry so We start with Alt then everyone just says who they are until we get the vig,everyone but one person now wants to win so it shouldnt be a problem for anyone to claim. well everyone wants to win but I think you all know what I mean. So alt do you claim first or do we vote on it?

Fast posted by chap. I believe we came to this conclusion chap by reading Zimmahs scenarios and posts, he is attempting to rewrite history and says if we work together is the best way to accomplish this.

So the consensus was to work together. Its a game I am willing to gamble on it.

[TheGeneral2112]

It is a weird win condition that I will explain after we kill the last vig, but hopefully everything will become a little more clear when we can see all the roles and everything at the end.

[chapcrap]

jgordon, he isn't saying that if we work together, we can all win. He's saying that we will have to work together more than a normal game because there isn't an overwhelming majority of players who are "town" and looking for "scum" to lynch. Everyone has their own agenda in this game.

[TheGeneral2112]

jgordon, he isn't saying that if we work together, we can all win. He's saying that we will have to work together more than a normal game because there isn't an overwhelming majority of players who are "town" and looking for "scum" to lynch. Everyone has their own agenda in this game.

Chap, you are the only one getting mad at our objectives here. We are working towards a win condition that a majority of players share. Would you like to claim vig now?

[edocsil]

jgordon, he isn't saying that if we work together, we can all win. He's saying that we will have to work together more than a normal game because there isn't an overwhelming majority of players who are "town" and looking for "scum" to lynch. Everyone has their own agenda in this game.

Most of us just need to survive. For our purposes the survivors are town, however some survivors cannot win together likely. I can win with the families if my WC is met, so between me and a few other survivors who I speculate can win with me we can have a fair majority. After a mass claim then the game is actually going to begin, the first days are just deciding who the players are. Then we all get to play smoke and mirrors to convince each other that we are honest and on the same side.

For example is the Apothecary just another survivor, or is he a Poisoner, or perhaps a role similar to an arsonist? Can Romeo win if Paris is alive, can Juliet? What is the distinction between orange survivors and green survivors?

This is why I want a role out dazza, as it will be one less player who holds hidden cards, and one less player we have to worry about telling half truths.