Romeo and Juliet Mafia - Capulet Victory. +Paris+John

[pmchugh]

If you are telling the truth how would a claim endanger yourself?

We should just have a mass claim in every game then! Especially with 14 people left!! The games would be sooo fun!!

We didn't ask for a mass claim, only a claim from you.

Personally I think that the mods words can be re-interpreted to make it sound like he was meaning something else but that doesn't really matter. My family cannot win unless this is true, killing every second night would run out well before our vig was lynched. And right now you are the number one suspect for vig from me.

The vigs don't kill every other night. That's a ridiculous theory. I already addressed that. First night, why would a vig try to kill anyone? They could easily mislynch someone from their own family. Second night, one (Benvolio) is still unsure because it has only been Montagues that have been revealed, along with third party's and the other tries for a lynch of Eldario because he thinks that Eldario is Romeo. Night three, there is only one vig left and he gets role blocked or chooses not to kill or the person he chooses gets saved by the doctor. Likely either the first or third choice. Highly unlikely that the Capulet vig (Tybalt) decides not to lynch when there are so many Montagues claimed.

I'm sorry I don't buy this, the remaining vig is a Capulet. On night 3 he would have plenty of targets so the question is why would it not have been mentioned in the scene on night 3? It even says it was a quiet night in the scene. Even if you were right it still would not absolve you of any blame either.

[jgordon1111]

No chap we pretty much knew that edoc was romeo from when he got outted by dazza N1,and mine and his fight ensued with him repeatedly saying he wasnt aligned with me, then eldario drew fire by claiming romeo,when At least I was sure he wasnt, and tried to point it out to everyone. Then of course I reread zimmahs posts and changed my mind on my game strategy.Vote Chap

[jgordon1111]

dang been to long unvote vote chap

[chapcrap]

Is my role reporter?

I was a reporter in another game and I got to target 1 player each night and found out if the left home(had an action). Thats not what I claimed here. Is reporter one of those sort of roles that can be different?

I am a survivor and can target 1 player and their alignment is revealed. Sorry if it is the same thing just making sure everyone knows.

I would call your role reporter.

I would call the role you're describing from another game a watcher.

Well, it looks like dazza evened it up and revealed a Capulet now. If the deadline had not run out, I wanted to test General's claim of invincibility, because I find that really hard to believe. He must be able to be killed. There is no way a role is made that can not be killed in some way. Perhaps he has to be poisoned or something else, but for it to be truly invincible doesn't make sense to me. I almost thought he was a jester and he would win by being a martyr or something religious, but I never said it because I don't think that would be the most feasible.

edoc, how do you propose we work together? I find your WC difficult to believe. If you are aligned with the Montaguesm but not one, you're probably Mercutio. In the play, Mercutio died defending Romeo from Tybalt when Romeo wouldn't fight him. His dying words were 'A plague on both your houses.' I think that Mercutio is probably a body guard for Romeo because of that scene. If someone targets Romeo, Mercutio dies instead. I also think that Mercutio didn't really care that much about peace. So, in short, I think you're Mercutio and I think you're lying.

This is post I made where I said that I thought he was Mercutio and no one ever said anything to the contrary. In fact, this was your next post:

well I roleblocked Edoc last night,so that eliminates him from killing eldario.

Eldario died I believe because for some reason he claimed to be Romeo, I didnt believe him But one of the vigs apparently did.

So with that much known,what do we really have?

You never said anything about edoc not being Mercutio.

[TheGeneral2112]

Chap, if my count is correct, you may be at L-2 or L-3 now. Are you going to name claim? You don't even have to say your role, man. We just need a name so we can find the last vig.

[TheGeneral2112]

Correction, Chap is at L-2.

[jgordon1111]

Chap that would be because from the very begining I was pretty sure he was Romeo,granted for a while got my families crossed up and thought he was juliet.

But I dont know what reason general would have for covering for him but he has from almost the start.

We only have one vig left, so it wouldnt make sense for those 2 to stick together like that, unless you have a different scenario?

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[TheGeneral2112]

Chap that would be because from the very begining I was pretty sure he was Romeo,granted for a while got my families crossed up and thought he was juliet.

But I dont know what reason general would have for covering for him but he has from almost the start.

We only have one vig left, so it wouldnt make sense for those 2 to stick together like that, unless you have a different scenario?

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Edoc and I share the same win condition.

[safariguy5]

Confirm!

I believe people wanted my name and alignment.

I am Count Paris, Survivor. I redirect targets, so sort of like a one-way busdriver. I could ask the mod for my night actions if you guys would like.

[shieldgenerator7]

yeah sure go ahead. It's not necessary to reveal them right now but it would be good for you to know them

Welcome to the game!

And since you're Count Paris, that means the apothecary could still be the poisoner, (although it seems its pure speculation), so we might need to still find him?

-SG7 ( )

[TheGeneral2112]

Confirm!

I believe people wanted my name and alignment.

I am Count Paris, Survivor. I redirect targets, so sort of like a one-way busdriver. I could ask the mod for my night actions if you guys would like.

And now it all falls together. Spartacus is the Apothecary. We will take care of this tomorrow.

Also, night actions would be useful in seeing if Dazza's results were affected or if a vig kill was changed.

[Bleed_Green]

So I have been sitting here pretty slightly and just following along waiting for a slip up... Sorry I will just have to confirm my notes tomorrow at work but Chap if you do not name claim you will pretty much force my hand to vote for you

[TheGeneral2112]

Confirm!

I believe people wanted my name and alignment.

I am Count Paris, Survivor. I redirect targets, so sort of like a one-way busdriver. I could ask the mod for my night actions if you guys would like.

Saf, what is your real win condition?

[safariguy5]

Confirm!

I believe people wanted my name and alignment.

I am Count Paris, Survivor. I redirect targets, so sort of like a one-way busdriver. I could ask the mod for my night actions if you guys would like.

Saf, what is your real win condition?

My win condition is to be alive at the end of the game. That's it.

[TheGeneral2112]

Chap, you're at L-2. You Tybalt?

[SPARTACUS1974]

Confirm!

I believe people wanted my name and alignment.

I am Count Paris, Survivor. I redirect targets, so sort of like a one-way busdriver. I could ask the mod for my night actions if you guys would like.

And now it all falls together. Spartacus is the Apothecary. We will take care of this tomorrow.

Also, night actions would be useful in seeing if Dazza's results were affected or if a vig kill was changed.

general look into this a little more insted of guessing first i was a count now i am a apothecary who will i be later today lol, again i am neither and yes i am a family member

[TheGeneral2112]

Confirm!

I believe people wanted my name and alignment.

I am Count Paris, Survivor. I redirect targets, so sort of like a one-way busdriver. I could ask the mod for my night actions if you guys would like.

And now it all falls together. Spartacus is the Apothecary. We will take care of this tomorrow.

Also, night actions would be useful in seeing if Dazza's results were affected or if a vig kill was changed.

general look into this a little more insted of guessing first i was a count now i am a apothecary who will i be later today lol, again i am neither and yes i am a family member

I had no idea what you were until now, spartacus. Now I know. I was just baiting you into giving me more information.

[TheGeneral2112]

Now in my chart I have figured out all Montagues, all but one or one Capulet depending on Chap, half of the survivors. AWESOME!

[TheGeneral2112]

Now in my chart I have figured out all Montagues, all but one or all Capulets depending on Chap, half of the survivors. AWESOME!

EBWOP

[Leehar]

Do I have to bothering saying who I am or have you already figured that bit out as well Gen?

[TheGeneral2112]

Do I have to bothering saying who I am or have you already figured that bit out as well Gen?

I don't have you pegged yet. Are you survivor or Capulet?

[pmchugh]

I think I know who the apothecary was but I am not liking the fact that spartacus claimed Cap as I already knew that.

I have a question for edoc and gen and co. Do you guys need romeo and juliet alive to win the game?

unvote until I hear the answer.

[TheGeneral2112]

I think I know who the apothecary was but I am not liking the fact that spartacus claimed Cap as I already knew that.

I have a question for edoc and gen and co. Do you guys need romeo and juliet alive to win the game?

unvote until I hear the answer.

Yea................... We actually need Romeo, Juliet, AND myself alive in order to preserve our win condition. That is why we need the vig dead today. Especially since I was forced to out my non invincibility due to the death of Prince Esc...

PMC, there is no way of knowing the Apoth for sure. We have 4 survivors and only 2 of them are known right now. Also, don't be too hard on Spartacus as I was baiting him to fill a little more in my chart.

[TheGeneral2112]

I think I know who the apothecary was but I am not liking the fact that spartacus claimed Cap as I already knew that.

I have a question for edoc and gen and co. Do you guys need romeo and juliet alive to win the game?

unvote until I hear the answer.

Yea................... We actually need Romeo, Juliet, AND myself alive in order to preserve our win condition. That is why we need the vig dead today. Especially since I was forced to out my non invincibility due to the death of Prince Esc...

PMC, there is no way of knowing the Apoth for sure. We have 4 survivors and only 2 of them are known right now. Also, don't be too hard on Spartacus as I was baiting him to fill a little more in my chart.

Otherwise the alternate win condition is no longer possible and a feud ending in a bloodbath is the only way for the families to win. :/ So now you see why Edoc didn't claim and why I hid the info about Prince Esc making me non invincible.

[pmchugh]

I am staying on no vote. I think that general and co have duped us. Why would the general be needed alive? It makes no sense, you are lying. The only reason people believe it is because the mods words have been twisted.

You clearly have your own agenda and that is Romeo and Juliet must survive and nothing else. There WC as either peace as they say, or survival for Romeo and Juliet which thegeneral just confirmed.

By the way the remaining Capulets are Peter and Lord Capulet, lets stop chap from claiming as now it is pointless. He will claim one of these names and then we will have no idea whether he is telling the truth because the Capulets are removing support from r&j and co. Instead I offer everyone else a truce, until we get rid of romeo and juliet. Remember montegues that the apothecary is still out there and could kill, this means that you have not necessarily lost which is definitely true if you play along to the Green factions plans. Think about it, this is a game of deceit why would your stated WC not be your actual WC?