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Re: R.I.P. Andrew Brietbart

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:03 pm

ViperOverLord wrote:
Aradhus wrote:Andrew Breitbart was a dishonest despicable f*ck. HIs death doesn't change who he was, or my opinion of him.

Edit: I wonder how he died. which Liberal murdered him.


"The tolerant left loves to hate and demonize anyone that won't bow down their progressive or liberal agenda__ Exhibit A Andrew Breitbart." Thanks for giving us a first hand example.


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Re: R.I.P. Andrew Brietbart

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:04 pm

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Lootifer wrote:Isn't it ironic that the "home of freedom" (i.e. America) produces some of the least creative, mass produced, brainwashing crap in many of its industries. Good use of your freedom team! :lol:


How do you know you're not falling victim to your cognitive bias?

or

HOW DARE YOU INSULT AMERICA, YOU PINKO FASCIST!!!


(take your pick)


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Re: R.I.P. Andrew Brietbart

Postby Lootifer on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:12 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:How do you know you're not falling victim to your cognitive bias?

'course im suffering from cog bias. But the fact that I, and many around me, suffer from the same cog bias is a supporting argument in itself.
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Re: R.I.P. Andrew Brietbart

Postby Night Strike on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:12 pm

thegreekdog wrote:
Lootifer wrote:Isn't it ironic that the "home of freedom" (i.e. America) produces some of the least creative, mass produced, brainwashing crap in many of its industries. Good use of your freedom team! :lol:


Also, shouldnt of Mr Dodgy democrat been "free" to be as dodgey as he likes? Isn't what he does with his spare time on twitter none of "Dru's" business?


Breitbart was actually a pretty intelligent and funny guy. Of course he had a political agenda (although I believe he once worked for the Huffington Post). I mean, if you compare him to more popular alternatives (e.g. Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck) he comes out pretty favorably (although if you compare someone to shit, of course they are going to come out smelling better).

Anyway, I liked him.


From what I read, he was co-creator with Ariana Huffington, but chose to leave when she decided to run it as a far-left news site.
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Re: R.I.P. Andrew Brietbart

Postby Lootifer on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:13 pm

Also I can support this quote enough:
We live in a time of political and media demagoguery unparalleled since the 19th century. Many of our most important public figures have gained their influence and power by inciting and exploiting the ugliest of passions—by manipulating fears and prejudices—by serving up falsehoods as reported truth. In time these figures will one by one die. What are we to say of this cohort, this group, this generation? That their mothers loved them? That their families are bereaved? That their fans admired them and their employees treated generously by them? Public figures are inescapably judged by their public actions. When those public actions are poisonous, the obituary cannot be pleasant reading.
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Re: R.I.P. Andrew Brietbart

Postby Lootifer on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:16 pm

thegreekdog wrote:
Lootifer wrote:Isn't it ironic that the "home of freedom" (i.e. America) produces some of the least creative, mass produced, brainwashing crap in many of its industries. Good use of your freedom team! :lol:


Also, shouldnt of Mr Dodgy democrat been "free" to be as dodgey as he likes? Isn't what he does with his spare time on twitter none of "Dru's" business?


Breitbart was actually a pretty intelligent and funny guy. Of course he had a political agenda (although I believe he once worked for the Huffington Post). I mean, if you compare him to more popular alternatives (e.g. Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck) he comes out pretty favorably (although if you compare someone to shit, of course they are going to come out smelling better).

Anyway, I liked him.

Yeh but his whole life was a contradiction: Anti-brainwashing (fair enough), acomplished by self-same brainwashing technique.

It's almost as perfect as PS's love for tool.
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Re: R.I.P. Andrew Brietbart

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:18 pm

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thegreekdog wrote:
Lootifer wrote:Isn't it ironic that the "home of freedom" (i.e. America) produces some of the least creative, mass produced, brainwashing crap in many of its industries. Good use of your freedom team! :lol:


Also, shouldnt of Mr Dodgy democrat been "free" to be as dodgey as he likes? Isn't what he does with his spare time on twitter none of "Dru's" business?


Breitbart was actually a pretty intelligent and funny guy. Of course he had a political agenda (although I believe he once worked for the Huffington Post). I mean, if you compare him to more popular alternatives (e.g. Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck) he comes out pretty favorably (although if you compare someone to shit, of course they are going to come out smelling better).

Anyway, I liked him.

Yeh but his whole life was a contradiction: Anti-brainwashing (fair enough), acomplished by self-same brainwashing technique.

It's almost as perfect as PS's love for tool.


It's only brainwashing if the listener only listens to one person. People should try not to do that.

And Tool is awesome.
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Re: R.I.P. Andrew Brietbart

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:18 pm

Lootifer wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Lootifer wrote:Isn't it ironic that the "home of freedom" (i.e. America) produces some of the least creative, mass produced, brainwashing crap in many of its industries. Good use of your freedom team! :lol:


Also, shouldnt of Mr Dodgy democrat been "free" to be as dodgey as he likes? Isn't what he does with his spare time on twitter none of "Dru's" business?


Breitbart was actually a pretty intelligent and funny guy. Of course he had a political agenda (although I believe he once worked for the Huffington Post). I mean, if you compare him to more popular alternatives (e.g. Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck) he comes out pretty favorably (although if you compare someone to shit, of course they are going to come out smelling better).

Anyway, I liked him.

Yeh but his whole life was a contradiction: Anti-brainwashing (fair enough), acomplished by self-same brainwashing technique.

It's almost as perfect as PS's love for tool.


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Andrew Breitbart Assassinated by Obama Drones!

Postby pimpdave on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:19 pm

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Re: Andrew Breitbart Assassinated by Obama Drones!

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:20 pm

pimpdave wrote:COMING SOON TO A CONSPIRACY FORUM NEAR YOU


I think one Breitbart thread is more than enough.
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Re: R.I.P. Andrew "Achilles" Brietbart

Postby pimpdave on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:20 pm

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Re: R.I.P. Andrew "Achilles" Brietbart

Postby pimpdave on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:26 pm

Calling Breitbart "Achilles" is not the nickname I would give the man, therefore this thread is trolling.
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Re: R.I.P. Andrew "Achilles" Brietbart

Postby Lootifer on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:27 pm

Haha, well in your defense PS, one of their key messages is to interpret the songs yourself, and personally derive your own meanings from them... :lol:
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Re: R.I.P. Andrew "Achilles" Brietbart

Postby Symmetry on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:33 pm

pimpdave wrote:Calling Breitbart "Achilles" is not the nickname I would give the man, therefore this thread is trolling.


He's saying the dude was a bit of a heel, and that he died early and famous. Pretty much the most important parts of the Achilles story.
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Re: R.I.P. Andrew Brietbart

Postby Lootifer on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:33 pm

thegreekdog wrote:It's only brainwashing if the listener only listens to one person. People should try not to do that.

I was referring to the demagogy as mentioned in that review of his life Sym linked, and the evidence of this demagogy (sorry for thrashing this word, but it's a good one i've only just learned, but felt the need for an equivilent for a long time) in his most well known piece. And how much alternate world views do the PS/NS's of this world genuinely listen too?

And Tool is awesome.

But of course, it's just PS's use of their symbology that makes me giggle.
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Re: R.I.P. Andrew "Achilles" Brietbart

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:38 pm

those at the rostrum are always heard more than those who are not. It's how many people they speak for that can bolster influence.
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Re: R.I.P. Andrew "Achilles" Brietbart

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:39 pm

Lootifer wrote:I was referring to the demagogy as mentioned in that review of his life Sym linked, and the evidence of this demagogy (sorry for thrashing this word, but it's a good one i've only just learned, but felt the need for an equivilent for a long time) in his most well known piece. And how much alternate world views do the PS/NS's of this world genuinely listen too?


I don't know what Phatscotty or Night Strike read or listen to.

That being said, these kinds of guys are in it for the money. Rush Limbaugh is trying to make money. Keith Olbermann is trying to make money. Once people realize that, they understand those guys' motivations and it's easier to care only about the facts behind the message rather than the message itself.
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Re: R.I.P. Andrew "Achilles" Brietbart

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:40 pm

Symmetry wrote:
pimpdave wrote:Calling Breitbart "Achilles" is not the nickname I would give the man, therefore this thread is trolling.


He's saying the dude was a bit of a heel, and that he died early and famous. Pretty much the most important parts of the Achilles story.


Thanks Symm! Right you are. Achilles was also short tempered and known for legendary tantrums. ;) I was going to ask TGD for an honorary opinion on honoring him with the name Achilles, (his Greek ancestor), but it's a solid comparison all the way through. I dub thee a Modern Day Achilles!

I bet you a billion Pimpdavid does not think it's trolling now

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Re: R.I.P. Andrew "Achilles" Brietbart

Postby pimpdave on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:42 pm

Symmetry wrote:
pimpdave wrote:Calling Breitbart "Achilles" is not the nickname I would give the man, therefore this thread is trolling.


He's saying the dude was a bit of a heel, and that he died early and famous. Pretty much the most important parts of the Achilles story.


I like your spin, I'm just on a kick lately to apply the definition of "trolling" that these guys use towards me back on them, in hopes that they come to realize that in fact none of us are trolling and they need to cool it with the constant, unending accusations of such towards me.

In practical terms, they haven't stopped posting threads expressing political opinions, so I won't either.
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Re: R.I.P. Andrew "Achilles" Brietbart

Postby Lootifer on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:45 pm

thegreekdog wrote:
Lootifer wrote:I was referring to the demagogy as mentioned in that review of his life Sym linked, and the evidence of this demagogy (sorry for thrashing this word, but it's a good one i've only just learned, but felt the need for an equivilent for a long time) in his most well known piece. And how much alternate world views do the PS/NS's of this world genuinely listen too?


I don't know what Phatscotty or Night Strike read or listen to.

That being said, these kinds of guys are in it for the money. Rush Limbaugh is trying to make money. Keith Olbermann is trying to make money. Once people realize that, they understand those guys' motivations and it's easier to care only about the facts behind the message rather than the message itself.

So that makes it ok for the messaging to [sometimes] be batshit insane and further develop this demagogy?

I personally don't like what i've learned about him because of his messages, if he was truely a good investigative journalist worthy of an RIP thread then he should have been politically neutral. But he wasn't so he was a dick.
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Re: R.I.P. Andrew "Achilles" Brietbart

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:50 pm

Lootifer wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Lootifer wrote:I was referring to the demagogy as mentioned in that review of his life Sym linked, and the evidence of this demagogy (sorry for thrashing this word, but it's a good one i've only just learned, but felt the need for an equivilent for a long time) in his most well known piece. And how much alternate world views do the PS/NS's of this world genuinely listen too?


I don't know what Phatscotty or Night Strike read or listen to.

That being said, these kinds of guys are in it for the money. Rush Limbaugh is trying to make money. Keith Olbermann is trying to make money. Once people realize that, they understand those guys' motivations and it's easier to care only about the facts behind the message rather than the message itself.

So that makes it ok for the messaging to [sometimes] be batshit insane and further develop this demagogy?

I personally don't like what i've learned about him because of his messages, if he was truely a good investigative journalist worthy of an RIP thread then he should have been politically neutral. But he wasn't so he was a dick.


Demagougery only occurs if there are people to make the speaker a demagogue.

He was a good journalist. Just because you don't agree with his message or his tone, does not change that.
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Re: R.I.P. Andrew Brietbart

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:52 pm

Lootifer wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:It's only brainwashing if the listener only listens to one person. People should try not to do that.

I was referring to the demagogy as mentioned in that review of his life Sym linked, and the evidence of this demagogy (sorry for thrashing this word, but it's a good one i've only just learned, but felt the need for an equivilent for a long time) in his most well known piece. And how much alternate world views do the PS/NS's of this world genuinely listen too?

And Tool is awesome.

But of course, it's just PS's use of their symbology that makes me giggle.


Dave Frum is a progressive spin-master. He can also seem to be okay sometimes. I'm also certain he is grooming Megan Mccain. That is all I will say about him.

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Re: R.I.P. Andrew "Achilles" Brietbart

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:59 pm

I wonder what Alex Jones is saying?

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Re: R.I.P. Andrew "Achilles" Brietbart

Postby Lootifer on Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:01 pm

thegreekdog wrote:
Lootifer wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Lootifer wrote:I was referring to the demagogy as mentioned in that review of his life Sym linked, and the evidence of this demagogy (sorry for thrashing this word, but it's a good one i've only just learned, but felt the need for an equivilent for a long time) in his most well known piece. And how much alternate world views do the PS/NS's of this world genuinely listen too?


I don't know what Phatscotty or Night Strike read or listen to.

That being said, these kinds of guys are in it for the money. Rush Limbaugh is trying to make money. Keith Olbermann is trying to make money. Once people realize that, they understand those guys' motivations and it's easier to care only about the facts behind the message rather than the message itself.

So that makes it ok for the messaging to [sometimes] be batshit insane and further develop this demagogy?

I personally don't like what i've learned about him because of his messages, if he was truely a good investigative journalist worthy of an RIP thread then he should have been politically neutral. But he wasn't so he was a dick.


Demagougery only occurs if there are people to make the speaker a demagogue.

He was a good journalist. Just because you don't agree with his message or his tone, does not change that.

But there are people, are there not? Or you think fanatic/irrational individuals only listen to true propaganda stright from the horses mouth?

His tone was fine, though not something i'd bother with. I will, however, never label ANY bias figure in the media as good. You immediatly lose your B or higher grade as soon as you dismiss neutrality in my opinion.
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Re: R.I.P. Andrew Brietbart

Postby Symmetry on Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:01 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Lootifer wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:It's only brainwashing if the listener only listens to one person. People should try not to do that.

I was referring to the demagogy as mentioned in that review of his life Sym linked, and the evidence of this demagogy (sorry for thrashing this word, but it's a good one i've only just learned, but felt the need for an equivilent for a long time) in his most well known piece. And how much alternate world views do the PS/NS's of this world genuinely listen too?

And Tool is awesome.

But of course, it's just PS's use of their symbology that makes me giggle.


Dave Frum is a progressive spin-master. He can also seem to be okay sometimes. I'm also certain he is grooming Megan Mccain. That is all I will say about him.

Loot: I said I auto-rolled it!


His article is worth a read in full. Like I said, not portraying him as a saint, or a demon.
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