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oVo wrote:Why does Sandra Fluke have to be "sold" by the left
or considered a Democrat plant?
Both of those are useless labels and irrelevant.
oVo wrote:I don't think it was even an issue until the Republicans declared that Obama was attacking American's religious rights. It's all political BS that backfired and should not even be a "presidential issue."
ViperOverLord wrote:oVo wrote:I don't think it was even an issue until the Republicans declared that Obama was attacking American's religious rights. It's all political BS that backfired and should not even be a "presidential issue."
Silly Republicans defending the Bill Of Rights.
oVo wrote:ViperOverLord wrote:oVo wrote:I don't think it was even an issue until the Republicans declared that Obama was attacking American's religious rights. It's all political BS that backfired and should not even be a "presidential issue."
Silly Republicans defending the Bill Of Rights.
That's all well and good, except there was no such attack. The silly Republicans
are all busy saying anything while attempting to sway voters and win primaries.
Activist Plant: requires full exposure + occasional feeding
ViperOverLord wrote:Freedom of religion dude?
oVo wrote:ViperOverLord wrote:Freedom of religion dude?
Nobody is stopping anyone from practicing their religion,
but you can't inflict your beliefs on others.
Catholics can go to confession to absolve their sins and in the USA
that must happen a lot with 90% using birth control.
Man dates are also problematic for Catholics, but that's a totally different issue.
Maybe if the Catholic Church was tolerant of man dates they wouldn't be paying
out absurd amounts of money to the victims of their priest's sexual desires.
oVo wrote:ViperOverLord wrote:Freedom of religion dude?
Nobody is stopping anyone from practicing their religion,
but you can't inflict your beliefs on others.
Symmetry wrote:oVo wrote:ViperOverLord wrote:Freedom of religion dude?
Nobody is stopping anyone from practicing their religion,
but you can't inflict your beliefs on others.
Catholics can go to confession to absolve their sins and in the USA
that must happen a lot with 90% using birth control.
Man dates are also problematic for Catholics, but that's a totally different issue.
Maybe if the Catholic Church was tolerant of man dates they wouldn't be paying
out absurd amounts of money to the victims of their priest's sexual desires.
It's worth noting that the vast vast majority of Catholics practicing Catholicism oppose the Church hierarchy's take on paedophilia, just as most practicing Catholics seem generally in favour of contraception. That's worth bearing in mind when people talk about Catholic beliefs being protected. In reality, it's merely about protecting a small group of men, unelected by practitioners of the faith they claim to represent, arguing that they should maintain unpopular practices under the guise of freedom of religion.
In my personal experience it seems to be a weird alliance between evangelical (or maybe simply more conservative) Protestantism, which usually rails against Catholic Church authority, weirdly allying itself with certain elements of the Catholic hierarchy. Meanwhile most Catholics just seem to want the Church to carry on with normal life and not get so entangled in the sex stuff, again.
oVo wrote:All Catholics personal freedoms are untouched in America
and they should feel pretty smug knowing everyone else
on the planet is going to hell.
They are also free to be as hypocritical as anyone else.
Juan_Bottom wrote:Well I like her. I think she's cute.
Phatscotty wrote:Just like Democrats are free to plant an activist hack
oVo wrote:Phatscotty wrote:Just like Democrats are free to plant an activist hack
You do realize that activists are not all leftist, pinko commie, radical, socially deviant,
anti-establishment, tree hugging hippies who are politically motivated and self centered
atheist Democrats. Right?
Phatscotty wrote:where the hell does this argument come from?
oVo wrote:Phatscotty wrote:where the hell does this argument come from?
It emerges from the unsubstantiated, stereotypical, generalizations, hearsay and extrapolations presented here expecting your fellow bitches to just accept as fact.
How do you explain this note I discovered while researching your covert posting activities on this forum Scotty?
oVo wrote:So... no denial that you have hopes of ruling the World eh?
I believe that is parallel to the lack of corroborated evidence
that Sandra is indeed a Democratic plant. Still iffy at best.
She graduated from Cornell University in 2003 and spent five years working for Sanctuary for Families, a New York-based nonprofit aiding victims of domestic violence, where she launched the agency's pilot Program Evaluation Initiative. She co-founded the New York Statewide Coalition for Fair Access to Family Court, which successfully advocated for legislation granting access to civil orders of protection for unmarried victims of domestic violence, including LGBTQ victims and teens. Fluke was also a member of the Manhattan Borough President's Taskforce on Domestic Violence and numerous other New York City and New York State coalitions that successfully advocated for policy improvements impacting victims of domestic violence.
ViperOverLord wrote:Symmetry wrote:oVo wrote:ViperOverLord wrote:Freedom of religion dude?
Nobody is stopping anyone from practicing their religion,
but you can't inflict your beliefs on others.
Catholics can go to confession to absolve their sins and in the USA
that must happen a lot with 90% using birth control.
Man dates are also problematic for Catholics, but that's a totally different issue.
Maybe if the Catholic Church was tolerant of man dates they wouldn't be paying
out absurd amounts of money to the victims of their priest's sexual desires.
It's worth noting that the vast vast majority of Catholics practicing Catholicism oppose the Church hierarchy's take on paedophilia, just as most practicing Catholics seem generally in favour of contraception. That's worth bearing in mind when people talk about Catholic beliefs being protected. In reality, it's merely about protecting a small group of men, unelected by practitioners of the faith they claim to represent, arguing that they should maintain unpopular practices under the guise of freedom of religion.
In my personal experience it seems to be a weird alliance between evangelical (or maybe simply more conservative) Protestantism, which usually rails against Catholic Church authority, weirdly allying itself with certain elements of the Catholic hierarchy. Meanwhile most Catholics just seem to want the Church to carry on with normal life and not get so entangled in the sex stuff, again.
The state of the Catholic church or any church is irrelevant. We have the right of freedom of religion and the govt. should not be making undue restrictions on it. That's why we made the Bill Of Rights; to limit the power of government and guarantee personal freedoms.
Symmetry wrote:ViperOverLord wrote:Symmetry wrote:oVo wrote:ViperOverLord wrote:Freedom of religion dude?
Nobody is stopping anyone from practicing their religion,
but you can't inflict your beliefs on others.
Catholics can go to confession to absolve their sins and in the USA
that must happen a lot with 90% using birth control.
Man dates are also problematic for Catholics, but that's a totally different issue.
Maybe if the Catholic Church was tolerant of man dates they wouldn't be paying
out absurd amounts of money to the victims of their priest's sexual desires.
It's worth noting that the vast vast majority of Catholics practicing Catholicism oppose the Church hierarchy's take on paedophilia, just as most practicing Catholics seem generally in favour of contraception. That's worth bearing in mind when people talk about Catholic beliefs being protected. In reality, it's merely about protecting a small group of men, unelected by practitioners of the faith they claim to represent, arguing that they should maintain unpopular practices under the guise of freedom of religion.
In my personal experience it seems to be a weird alliance between evangelical (or maybe simply more conservative) Protestantism, which usually rails against Catholic Church authority, weirdly allying itself with certain elements of the Catholic hierarchy. Meanwhile most Catholics just seem to want the Church to carry on with normal life and not get so entangled in the sex stuff, again.
The state of the Catholic church or any church is irrelevant. We have the right of freedom of religion and the govt. should not be making undue restrictions on it. That's why we made the Bill Of Rights; to limit the power of government and guarantee personal freedoms.
And yet those personal freedoms are being impeded, with regard to the actual practice of the majority of the Catholic Church within the US. Taking a minority view of what constitutes Catholic practice as representative of Catholicism seems a big part of the problem. Presumably you wouldn't justify exemption from laws regarding paedophilia on the same grounds as protecting this same tiny, unelected, unrepresentative minority?
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