Golden Pantheon - Japanese - Endgame

[freezie]

Yea..my case isn't awesome..but if anyone has anything better..go on and show it

[soundman]

Well I'm stumped. You sure you don't want to give us your investigation results General?

[jonty125]

Well I'm stumped. You sure you don't want to give us your investigation results General?

If you die, they are of no value

[safariguy5]

Well I'm stumped. You sure you don't want to give us your investigation results General?

If you die, they are of no value

Ok, I might have something that will get some discussion going.

Who/what are the anti town factions in this game?

1. Cult only
2. Cult and Mafia
3. Cult and SKer
4. All three

I think 4 is extremely unlikely. I'm leaning towards 3, but the lack of a NK on Night 1 makes me less sure.

What does everyone think?

[MeDeFe]

3 is a possibility with a lucky roleblock or save by the doc. Such things do happen from time to time. I actually think it's more like than your first scenario, these GP games have been pretty advanced, so I wouldn't be surprised if there are three factions in this one, small as it is.

[jonty125]

3 sounds likely. Edoc commented he could only find one maliciously aligned God.

[safariguy5]

3 sounds likely. Edoc commented he could only find one maliciously aligned God.

Possible, but then that calls into question the purpose of the cult. Would the malicious god be more appropriate as Cult Recruiter or as SKer?

[soundman]

Is it possible to have a Poisoner instead of an SKer? The scene seems to indicate that. I think it would make sense that there is a Cult faction and a lone Poisoner. At this point I don't see a Mafia faction in the game.

[freezie]

FoS: everyone

for scumarrining.



I don't know what to add when NO ONE is even bothering to talk. I'll try something, even though it's pure meta..:

Strike's behavious is quite strange. Normally, he's the first one to jump and find out (good) cases about just anyone. especially on day 3.

All he did here is follow the leads and pop up a few times to say he's here.....


Granted, you ALL did that, nearly..-.-

[pancakemix]

Vote strike

It's the best lead at the moment. At least it's something. And his response that he's "spent all day defending himself" actually means he quoted all of it but responded to about half of it and didn't really do anything to counteract said points.

[pancakemix]

Vote strike

It's the best lead at the moment. At least it's something. And his response that he's "spent all day defending himself" actually means he quoted all of it but responded to about half of it and didn't really do anything to counteract said points.

EBWOP: Wanted to add that I want to add to this, but I have papers to write an such. Perhaps tomorrow.

[strike wolf]

I had a whole post listed out of the ridiculous nature of some of the votes on me. but considering I'm at L-2, I don't think I have much choice now.

I am Tsukuyomi, Town Doc. I am the Moon God, son of Izanagi.

I protected thegeneral both nights. Mostly because there isn't one single unclaimed character in this game that I trust and I didn't want to wifom who mafia may try to kill.

So I doubt that I would be put in this game just to protect against vig kills. So I strongly believe that the cult/SK option is the most likely. Cult/mafia is possible but in a non-vanilla game (I assume based on the previous two games) that seems over powered against town. Poisoner is possible assuming I can protect against poisonings otherwise I doubt it

As far as me "acting strangely", the only thing I can say is that this is the only role in mafia that I frankly just don't know how to play. Being the doc I couldn't be too out forward in front of things but the last time I played the role my passive play earned me almost getting lynched so i tried to be a bit more up front than the first time...and I failed...

[edocsil]

Vote Count

Strike (4) ~ Jonty, Victor, Freezie, Pancakemix

[Victor Sullivan]

Meh. If Cult is the only faction, Doc is an easy fake-claim. I'm hesitant to retract my vote.

-Sully

[freezie]

As far as me "acting strangely", the only thing I can say is that this is the only role in mafia that I frankly just don't know how to play. Being the doc I couldn't be too out forward in front of things but the last time I played the role my passive play earned me almost getting lynched so i tried to be a bit more up front than the first time...and I failed...

After we knew there was a cult...I don't know why you'd hold back. Yet, you kept doing it even on day 3.

My vote stays.

[strike wolf]

As far as me "acting strangely", the only thing I can say is that this is the only role in mafia that I frankly just don't know how to play. Being the doc I couldn't be too out forward in front of things but the last time I played the role my passive play earned me almost getting lynched so i tried to be a bit more up front than the first time...and I failed...

After we knew there was a cult...I don't know why you'd hold back. Yet, you kept doing it even on day 3.

My vote stays.

Please inform me why cult should change my attitude? I still have the Sk to worry about and the only cases I have are on Thegeneral which other than being mostly wifom would have him as recruited cult (low proiority) and safariguy which is based pretty much solely on gut feeling. I've taken the time to attempt to defend myself (I don't know what Pancakemix feels I haven't responded to. I responded to everything that seemed relevant and that could be answered. I did not respond to the acting strangely comments...too vague to really give a good reply to and the only way I could think of was to give out information on my role.) which personally took a lot of my priority away from finding cases and I've seen it too many times where the person under speculation has their cases dismissed because it was seen as dodging. I've done it myself there's nothing wrong with it but I'm not going through the trouble of creating a case that won't work when I could be attempting to defend myself.

[safariguy5]

When someone changes their playstyle, I take that as a possible scumtell. strike seems to have been rather disconnected from the discussion this game, and I don't buy the idea that being doc should change your playstyle. It's not like strike's regular playstyle tended to draw a lot of heat anyways.

vote strike wolf

[safariguy5]

When someone changes their playstyle, I take that as a possible scumtell. strike seems to have been rather disconnected from the discussion this game, and I don't buy the idea that being doc should change your playstyle. It's not like strike's regular playstyle tended to draw a lot of heat anyways.

vote strike wolf

EBWOP to add the Bold

[strike wolf]

When someone changes their playstyle, I take that as a possible scumtell. strike seems to have been rather disconnected from the discussion this game, and I don't buy the idea that being doc should change your playstyle. It's not like strike's regular playstyle tended to draw a lot of heat anyways.

vote strike wolf

It doesn't? I've actually been getting killed a lot lately or at least was leading into the Hectic Eclectic game (where apparently Chap wanted me killed Night 1). I realize a couple of those kills came after I had claimed but there were others where I hadn't claimed not to mention I was almost killed twice in the Futurama mafia game and only escaped that one alive because of a busdrive and a CPR doc who took a gamble that I would be the kill selection that night.

I would expect you know me better than this anyways Saf. I've never changed my play style drastically when I am mafia or SK or even just a third party. The only time I've made a major change in my playstyle was Buffy mafia. Anyone want to take a stab at what role I was in that game?

[freezie]

My posts may be herratic for a little while..got many problems needed clearing in my live first..I'll pop my head in but may not spend as much time as I want...

[jonty125]

unvote We don't need to lynch him yet, we've got six days until deadline so lets use that time to find future lynch targets.

[TheGeneral2112]

Popping in to say hi! I'm drunk right now, so no long post. Serious fucking FOS on safguy for voting the uncc'd doc after claiming. That is some bullshit. If we don't have a cc, we can move on from there. If we do have a cc, we are lynching strike.

[safariguy5]

Popping in to say hi! I'm drunk right now, so no long post. Serious fucking FOS on safguy for voting the uncc'd doc after claiming. That is some bullshit. If we don't have a cc, we can move on from there. If we do have a cc, we are lynching strike.

Again, read my justification. If we assume cult and SKer (which seems more likely to me due to no NK on Night 1) then doc loses a good amount of his usefulness. Our number 1 priority is looking for the cult leader, and if we use the power role recruitment WIFOM, strike would be high on the recruitment list now anyways.

Of course, if someone has information that we may have an SKer (roleblock on Night 1) then I'm definitely going to reconsider my vote, but the night actions seem to point towards cult only more than both.

[strike wolf]

Popping in to say hi! I'm drunk right now, so no long post. Serious fucking FOS on safguy for voting the uncc'd doc after claiming. That is some bullshit. If we don't have a cc, we can move on from there. If we do have a cc, we are lynching strike.

Again, read my justification. If we assume cult and SKer (which seems more likely to me due to no NK on Night 1) then doc loses a good amount of his usefulness. Our number 1 priority is looking for the cult leader, and if we use the power role recruitment WIFOM, strike would be high on the recruitment list now anyways.

Of course, if someone has information that we may have an SKer (roleblock on Night 1) then I'm definitely going to reconsider my vote, but the night actions seem to point towards cult only more than both.

From the protection stand point there is no difference between an SK kill or a Mafia kill so neither would affect the chance a doctor was in the game. Remember there was some kind of struggle depicted night 1 and a kill night 2. Do you want to chalk the Night 2 kill down as a vig and the Night 1 as something else?

[strike wolf]

Popping in to say hi! I'm drunk right now, so no long post. Serious fucking FOS on safguy for voting the uncc'd doc after claiming. That is some bullshit. If we don't have a cc, we can move on from there. If we do have a cc, we are lynching strike.

Again, read my justification. If we assume cult and SKer (which seems more likely to me due to no NK on Night 1) then doc loses a good amount of his usefulness. Our number 1 priority is looking for the cult leader, and if we use the power role recruitment WIFOM, strike would be high on the recruitment list now anyways.

Of course, if someone has information that we may have an SKer (roleblock on Night 1) then I'm definitely going to reconsider my vote, but the night actions seem to point towards cult only more than both.

Forgot to mention. The recruitment wifom is questionable. If the cult could recruit without the recruit losing ability (Everywhere's just said cultist did not say if he had any ability) than yeah I'd be pretty much at the top of the recruit list (only thing that would stop them is worry over a watcher and the killing role taking me out because I'm the doc). However if getting recruited to cult means you lose your ability than I'd have to imagine I'm pretty low on the list as cult would just as soon have me unwittingly protecting them as they would want me a nerfed cult who's likely to be killed because I had an important role. End WIFOM.