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BGtheBrain wrote:lol
Hilarious how you want to get it moved to the suggestions forum and try to say not to make it personal. The comparison to the "law" is because on this site, the rules are the law. lol, " I am Spartacus!" f*ck you just because.
Its also funny how the players using the questionable tactics are fine, and you blame the game feature instead. (Who said anything about the players? I am sure that I did not say that. In fact, my discussion was on the actual problem and not focusing on shit that is irrelevant. Don't try to speak for me.
As for the 3 cases which I showed where this type of behavior can be punished, they are just facts. Not really open to your non-important opinion on the matter. (f*ck you if you think this is the case.) You must think your opinion is Godlike since everyone who disagrees with you is non-important. They are facts of how a someone played within the allowable rule of the site, but took advantage of it to create an unfair advantage. sniff... so what? Some things could have been handled better. Facts? Fact is that they happened. Were they handled in the best way? I don't think so , but time will tell if it matters enough...
It only seems simple to you, because you are taking a simple interpretation of the rules to conveniently remove any fault from your clan mates.(f*ck you if you think this is the case. The fact that they are my clan mates is irrelevant. You are truly a dickhead for posting this. My arguments are sound. And once again I wasn't arguing fault, I was simply stating that the problem lies in the way the gametype is run. )
Grow up and place blame where it should be placed.(f*ck you, I stated that the gametype is the problem and that the issue would be best resolved in suggestions instead of you being a dumbass and trying to twist my message around and try to piss me off....job well done btw...)
They know what they are doing, you know what they are doing.( They are playing the game.)
The rules only have to be as long as they need to be to prevent people like your clan mates from exploiting them. (Again f*ck you. Another flame referring to my clan mates. f*ck you for trying to make me needlessly repeat myself.![]()
Anyways, eventually someone will report them. I wish them luck. It may be cleared once, maybe twice, but like I said. Rules evolve, eventually they'll need to stop, or they'll end up in trouble like the rest of the players who find a way to do things like this.(f*ck your luck. I am assuming that you will try your best to flay anyone from my clan. lol, f*ck you for that too.
riskllama wrote:Koolbak wins this thread.
BGtheBrain wrote:lol
Just because I am a mod doesnt mean I cant have an opinion on something.
I havent baited or flamed or twisted your message, but whatever. All I did was counter your weak arguments.
I dont have anything personal against your clan, I actually havent met any of them (I dont think) All I know about them is the reputaiton of your clan.
Anyways, I have nothign else to say to you. Clearly you are not capable of having a calm discussion if people dont agree with you, you take it personal and over react.
betiko wrote:I got a solution: when both teams joined a freestyle, the game should not be able to start before 12 or 24h. like this there is no advantage into joining last and everyone is aware of the start time of the game. if you don't show up, well that's just too bad.
after don't blame a team to be more organized than the other, because isn't that the point of a team??
betiko wrote:Guys calm down; but as i said before; if we don't want all this to turn into a big C&A nightmare, because the GLG case...
we then need lackattack to create restrictions in games settings to cover those breaches. if things are not allowed to do, well then why are the settings possible to do?
...
most of the known CC players have their own little ranching techniques for points gathering. go look at the win rates on all the type of games mentioned above. these are clearly for points gathering and taking advantage of players.
Are we going to witch hunt all this too? are these players doing only this?? the answer is no; they are not 100% dedicated to these settings.
it's pocket money. do I give a f*ck of the noobs losing 10 points? no. you guys don't either. you just don't want players to win easy points.
jghost7 wrote:...If you would change it, then you must change the setup of freestyle and have the countdown as was suggested earlier. This would be a fine suggestion. Or even remove invites from freestyle as they do in speed games. I am not a fan of freestyle therefore I do not play it often. I suggest, if you are having a hard time with it, that you do the same. Move on over to the Suggestions forum and see if you can solve the problem in that venue. ...
L M S wrote: The big problem is that we have tied the hands of KA into a knot with the rules.
I say we use the old 'unwritten rules clause' and fix all this damn mess.
Sniper08 wrote:L M S wrote: The big problem is that we have tied the hands of KA into a knot with the rules.
I say we use the old 'unwritten rules clause' and fix all this damn mess.
the problem with that is what if someone is punished by the mods in a borderline case that people liked then there would be mass uproar demanding KA be restricted in what he can do.
jghost7 wrote:I really don't think that it should really be that difficult to tweak the freestyle format so that this is not an issue anymore. The first turn timer, or even the removal of invites from freestyle, or another easy tweak should not be that complicated. Then the freestyle issue goes away.
I don't think I like the idea of being judged by unwritten rules. It allows for wide interpretations of what someone can and can't do. Plus, I think someone should know what they should or shouldn't do prior to being penalized for it. I do understand what LMS is saying, but if we went that route, then the possibilities for abuse or even judgement calls to vary on the same issues will likely occur. Like Sniper was saying, cries of favoritism would arise and it would still be a mess.
It is just a game. I think that perhaps we may need to try this viewpoint and not take ourselves too seriously. Let us look if there is a way to fix the game so that these types of discussions can be obsolete and we can focus on ways to improve everyone's game experience by improving the site rather than focusing on rules and finding ways to get players banned.
thanks,
J
tsioumiou wrote:jghost7 wrote:I really don't think that it should really be that difficult to tweak the freestyle format so that this is not an issue anymore. The first turn timer, or even the removal of invites from freestyle, or another easy tweak should not be that complicated. Then the freestyle issue goes away.
I don't think I like the idea of being judged by unwritten rules. It allows for wide interpretations of what someone can and can't do. Plus, I think someone should know what they should or shouldn't do prior to being penalized for it. I do understand what LMS is saying, but if we went that route, then the possibilities for abuse or even judgement calls to vary on the same issues will likely occur. Like Sniper was saying, cries of favoritism would arise and it would still be a mess.
It is just a game. I think that perhaps we may need to try this viewpoint and not take ourselves too seriously. Let us look if there is a way to fix the game so that these types of discussions can be obsolete and we can focus on ways to improve everyone's game experience by improving the site rather than focusing on rules and finding ways to get players banned.
thanks,
J
You really dont understand the point of this. I dont even think you understand the kind of abuse we are talking about.
You are talking about freestyle in general. We are talking about something very specific.
Open a new thread if you want to complain about freestly in general
riskllama wrote:Koolbak wins this thread.
jghost7 wrote:I really don't think that it should really be that difficult to tweak the freestyle format so that this is not an issue anymore. The first turn timer, or even the removal of invites from freestyle, or another easy tweak should not be that complicated. Then the freestyle issue goes away.
I don't think I like the idea of being judged by unwritten rules. It allows for wide interpretations of what someone can and can't do. Plus, I think someone should know what they should or shouldn't do prior to being penalized for it. I do understand what LMS is saying, but if we went that route, then the possibilities for abuse or even judgement calls to vary on the same issues will likely occur. Like Sniper was saying, cries of favoritism would arise and it would still be a mess.
It is just a game. I think that perhaps we may need to try this viewpoint and not take ourselves too seriously. Let us look if there is a way to fix the game so that these types of discussions can be obsolete and we can focus on ways to improve everyone's game experience by improving the site rather than focusing on rules and finding ways to get players banned.
thanks,
J
betiko wrote:jghost7 wrote:I really don't think that it should really be that difficult to tweak the freestyle format so that this is not an issue anymore. The first turn timer, or even the removal of invites from freestyle, or another easy tweak should not be that complicated. Then the freestyle issue goes away.
I don't think I like the idea of being judged by unwritten rules. It allows for wide interpretations of what someone can and can't do. Plus, I think someone should know what they should or shouldn't do prior to being penalized for it. I do understand what LMS is saying, but if we went that route, then the possibilities for abuse or even judgement calls to vary on the same issues will likely occur. Like Sniper was saying, cries of favoritism would arise and it would still be a mess.
It is just a game. I think that perhaps we may need to try this viewpoint and not take ourselves too seriously. Let us look if there is a way to fix the game so that these types of discussions can be obsolete and we can focus on ways to improve everyone's game experience by improving the site rather than focusing on rules and finding ways to get players banned.
thanks,
J
+1.
team freestyle is just silly and needs a time to start round 1, that's it. it's abuse or be abused. in that case, just technically change the way a game starts.
also freestlye and sequential are 2 different games, and if people care so much about the scoreboard, well just seperate both rankings!!
freestyle has so many loopholes in which people get into...
for example, i m sure the acuser in this thread would never be a brig if it wasn't for freestyle games and that simmons, sweeney and tec kick his ass everyday in a sequential team game. they are just ahead of him in the ranking so he's not happy; but all his freestyle games that braught him up there on the scoreboard are ok for him.
FREESTYLE BY ITSELF IS GROSS ABUSE.
codeblue1018 wrote:Really???? You honestly think this thread is about a Player that is bitter because other people are higher in rank? Cmon man; do you honestly think it's hard to club the scoreboard mate? You are seriously mistaken if this is your thought process. Fact is; it's easy to rank up on freestyle games, trust me. If ALOT of freestyle players played as Tec currently is, for example, the 20th spot on the scoreboard would be 4000 points, lol. When freestyle wasn't an option here, you never saw scores like they are today; what does that tell you? This thread was made due soley to the cheap ways Tec and team uses on freestyle trips, dubs or whatever that causes the opposing team to lose almost immediately not jealousy mate. I sound like a broken record, but what is it that you fail to grasp here?
jghost7 wrote:codeblue1018 wrote:Really???? You honestly think this thread is about a Player that is bitter because other people are higher in rank? Cmon man; do you honestly think it's hard to club the scoreboard mate? You are seriously mistaken if this is your thought process. Fact is; it's easy to rank up on freestyle games, trust me. If ALOT of freestyle players played as Tec currently is, for example, the 20th spot on the scoreboard would be 4000 points, lol. When freestyle wasn't an option here, you never saw scores like they are today; what does that tell you? This thread was made due soley to the cheap ways Tec and team uses on freestyle trips, dubs or whatever that causes the opposing team to lose almost immediately not jealousy mate. I sound like a broken record, but what is it that you fail to grasp here?
I don't think it has much to do with a single disgruntled player. And, I also understand the players who feel that this is a cheap method. I just don't agree with their way of solving the problem. They would prefer to yank the players down for doing this rather than looking at the bigger picture and making the fix that will keep this issue from being an issue at all.
Thanks,
J
jghost7 wrote:codeblue1018 wrote:Really???? You honestly think this thread is about a Player that is bitter because other people are higher in rank? Cmon man; do you honestly think it's hard to club the scoreboard mate? You are seriously mistaken if this is your thought process. Fact is; it's easy to rank up on freestyle games, trust me. If ALOT of freestyle players played as Tec currently is, for example, the 20th spot on the scoreboard would be 4000 points, lol. When freestyle wasn't an option here, you never saw scores like they are today; what does that tell you? This thread was made due soley to the cheap ways Tec and team uses on freestyle trips, dubs or whatever that causes the opposing team to lose almost immediately not jealousy mate. I sound like a broken record, but what is it that you fail to grasp here?
I don't think it has much to do with a single disgruntled player. And, I also understand the players who feel that this is a cheap method. I just don't agree with their way of solving the problem. They would prefer to yank the players down for doing this rather than looking at the bigger picture and making the fix that will keep this issue from being an issue at all.
Thanks,
J
betiko wrote:jghost7 wrote:codeblue1018 wrote:Really???? You honestly think this thread is about a Player that is bitter because other people are higher in rank? Cmon man; do you honestly think it's hard to club the scoreboard mate? You are seriously mistaken if this is your thought process. Fact is; it's easy to rank up on freestyle games, trust me. If ALOT of freestyle players played as Tec currently is, for example, the 20th spot on the scoreboard would be 4000 points, lol. When freestyle wasn't an option here, you never saw scores like they are today; what does that tell you? This thread was made due soley to the cheap ways Tec and team uses on freestyle trips, dubs or whatever that causes the opposing team to lose almost immediately not jealousy mate. I sound like a broken record, but what is it that you fail to grasp here?
I don't think it has much to do with a single disgruntled player. And, I also understand the players who feel that this is a cheap method. I just don't agree with their way of solving the problem. They would prefer to yank the players down for doing this rather than looking at the bigger picture and making the fix that will keep this issue from being an issue at all.
Thanks,
J
exactly jghost.
also codeblue i think you don't get my point and you are saying something about freestyle games that basically rejoins what i posted, but my thought process is flawed. whatever!
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