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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby TheGeneral2112 on Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:14 pm

Symmetry wrote:
TheGeneral2112 wrote:Jesus, you are all incredibly misinformed. Have any of you read the police report? Do any of you understand the law when it comes to a clean shoot? Read the police report before you mouth off with your fucking opinion. This ****** was bashing Zimmerman's head against the curb when he drew his firearm with this punk ass on top of him, then shot. A witness didn't see the shot, but he saw Zimmerman on the bottom getting the shit beat out of him and ran upstairs to call the cops. The shot happened when the witness wasn't looking. Until you have read the police report and have heard from the FUCKING WITNESSES (THERE WERE THREE) THEN SHUT THE f*ck UP!


Wow, now given that you've provided no sources to back up your claims, and that even a casual search of google indicate that you're misinformed, what are you trying to say?


OMG GUYS GOOGLE SAYS I'M WRONG!! I'VE QUOTED NO SOURCES!! EXCEPT THE FUCKING POLICE REPORT!!!

Can I ask you where you're getting your information from when you say

TheGeneral2112 wrote: This ****** was bashing Zimmerman's head against the curb when he drew his firearm with this punk ass on top of him, then shot.


Symmetry wrote:I'd hate to be misinformed.


Again with this shit? Don't you listen?

And for all asking about height/weight, here you go.

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And for all of you who wonder why the video doesn't show injuries, here you go.

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For anyone wondering about what happened when the cops showed up, here you go.

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For anyone that still thinks Trayvon is innocent, reread that last sentence written by Officer Timothy Smith.
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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:34 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
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Phatscotty wrote:Some people do not like it because it does not paint Trayvon as innocent.


What specific elements of the photos paint him as guilty, do you feel?


I don't feel that a photograph makes someone guilty. These new photos are not as innocent looking as the ones the media used


When the media report on someone should they (a) show every photograph that was ever taken of that person in that person's entire life?, (b) show photographs that are representative of the general tone of photographs taken of that person?, (c) show photographs that only cast the person in a positive light?, (d) show photographs that only cast that person in a negative light?

I think "B." I assume, without delving deep into the subject, that self-pics Martin posted where he was mugging for his friends probably constituted a very tiny percentage of all the photos taken of him in his entire life.
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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby Night Strike on Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:45 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
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Phatscotty wrote:Some people do not like it because it does not paint Trayvon as innocent.


What specific elements of the photos paint him as guilty, do you feel?


I don't feel that a photograph makes someone guilty. These new photos are not as innocent looking as the ones the media used


When the media report on someone should they (a) show every photograph that was ever taken of that person in that person's entire life?, (b) show photographs that are representative of the general tone of photographs taken of that person?, (c) show photographs that only cast the person in a positive light?, (d) show photographs that only cast that person in a negative light?

I think "B." I assume, without delving deep into the subject, that self-pics Martin posted where he was mugging for his friends probably constituted a very tiny percentage of all the photos taken of him in his entire life.


I just ask that they post a recent picture. They posted a very young-looking picture of Martin and a semi-angry, almost-mug-shot picture of Zimmerman. Pictures can tell the story that the media wants to hint at.
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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby Phatscotty on Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:11 pm

Someone else tried the same tactic here
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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby natty dread on Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:23 pm

"Enhanced video" = "video we photoshopped to look like Zimmerman is wounded, because we're racists"
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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby Night Strike on Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:28 pm

natty dread wrote:"Enhanced video" = "video we photoshopped to look like Zimmerman is wounded, because we're racists"


For living across the pond, some of you really like to inject yourself into conversations about what's going on in the US. And what's worse is when you do so posting drivel like the above quote. This is ABC we're talking about....they're the ones that first aired the regular video and tried to use it as proof that there were no injuries. Furthermore, it would take a lot of work to fake an entire video segment and not just one little picture like the one Phatscotty posted.
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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:31 pm

natty dread wrote:"Enhanced video" = "video we photoshopped to look like Zimmerman is wounded, because we're racists"



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(assuming the above is true; it was originally posted by the General on the previous page)

So the officer lied on his report? How do you know?
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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby Baron Von PWN on Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:32 pm

TheGeneral2112 wrote:

Again with this shit? Don't you listen?

And for all asking about height/weight, here you go.

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And for all of you who wonder why the video doesn't show injuries, here you go.

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For anyone wondering about what happened when the cops showed up, here you go.

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For anyone that still thinks Trayvon is innocent, reread that last sentence written by Officer Timothy Smith.


All it shows is that they got in a fight. We have nothing but Zimmerman's word that Martin started it. Though it's interesting the police list 160 for martin. I had heard 140. Police just estimate weight right?
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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby Lootifer on Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:46 pm

No handgun = no dead dude? /shrug
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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby Phatscotty on Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:55 am

Lootifer wrote:No handgun = no dead dude? /shrug


You seem to suggest that a handgun is the only way someone can be killed?

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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby Army of GOD on Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:07 am

Just ONCE I want a typical leftist to agree with the rights or a typical rightist to agree with the lefts.

I feel like all of you guys are mentally incapable of seeing arguments from different points of view.


also, this is my take on it: none of us were there. We can only imagine what the f*ck really happened between the Zimmerman telegram and Steve Martin. I'm not going to sit here and pretend like I know one was in the wrong, because I wasn't fucking there. Yes, the US has a massive race problem (both whites and blacks are at fault), but it's perpetuated when we have idiots who go back and forth continuously (enter New Black Panthers, Spike Lee being an idiot, etc.).
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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:36 am

Army of GOD wrote:Just ONCE I want a typical leftist to agree with the rights or a typical rightist to agree with the lefts.

I feel like all of you guys are mentally incapable of seeing arguments from different points of view.


also, this is my take on it: none of us were there. We can only imagine what the f*ck really happened between the Zimmerman telegram and Steve Martin. I'm not going to sit here and pretend like I know one was in the wrong, because I wasn't fucking there. Yes, the US has a massive race problem (both whites and blacks are at fault), but it's perpetuated when we have idiots who go back and forth continuously (enter New Black Panthers, Spike Lee being an idiot, etc.).


NO! NO! Steve Martin was killed? WHEN!?! WHENNN!!?
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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby Army of GOD on Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:56 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:Just ONCE I want a typical leftist to agree with the rights or a typical rightist to agree with the lefts.

I feel like all of you guys are mentally incapable of seeing arguments from different points of view.


also, this is my take on it: none of us were there. We can only imagine what the f*ck really happened between the Zimmerman telegram and Steve Martin. I'm not going to sit here and pretend like I know one was in the wrong, because I wasn't fucking there. Yes, the US has a massive race problem (both whites and blacks are at fault), but it's perpetuated when we have idiots who go back and forth continuously (enter New Black Panthers, Spike Lee being an idiot, etc.).


NO! NO! Steve Martin was killed? WHEN!?! WHENNN!!?


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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby natty dread on Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:04 am

Night Strike wrote:
natty dread wrote:"Enhanced video" = "video we photoshopped to look like Zimmerman is wounded, because we're racists"


For living across the pond, some of you really like to inject yourself into conversations about what's going on in the US. And what's worse is when you do so posting drivel like the above quote. This is ABC we're talking about....they're the ones that first aired the regular video and tried to use it as proof that there were no injuries. Furthermore, it would take a lot of work to fake an entire video segment and not just one little picture like the one Phatscotty posted.


Pffthaha.

You can not "enhance" a video, that's bullshit. A video contains a certain amount of data. There's no way to somehow make it contain more data, by doing some weird "enhance" thing that just sort of magically makes it better. It's fixed resolution. You zoom in, all you see is huge pixels.

The "enhanced" video just looks like someone airbrushed a red blot on zimmerman's head in each frame. It's so obviously fake it's not even funny.
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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:20 am

Night Strike wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Some people do not like it because it does not paint Trayvon as innocent.


What specific elements of the photos paint him as guilty, do you feel?


I don't feel that a photograph makes someone guilty. These new photos are not as innocent looking as the ones the media used


When the media report on someone should they (a) show every photograph that was ever taken of that person in that person's entire life?, (b) show photographs that are representative of the general tone of photographs taken of that person?, (c) show photographs that only cast the person in a positive light?, (d) show photographs that only cast that person in a negative light?

I think "B." I assume, without delving deep into the subject, that self-pics Martin posted where he was mugging for his friends probably constituted a very tiny percentage of all the photos taken of him in his entire life.


I just ask that they post a recent picture. They posted a very young-looking picture of Martin and a semi-angry, almost-mug-shot picture of Zimmerman. Pictures can tell the story that the media wants to hint at.


I can't think of a single other time in recent memory when the MSM has posted a photo of someone flipping off the camera. Unless you can, you're essentially asking they adopt a more critical standard of photo selection just for Treyvon Martin.
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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:23 am

natty dread wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
natty dread wrote:"Enhanced video" = "video we photoshopped to look like Zimmerman is wounded, because we're racists"


For living across the pond, some of you really like to inject yourself into conversations about what's going on in the US. And what's worse is when you do so posting drivel like the above quote. This is ABC we're talking about....they're the ones that first aired the regular video and tried to use it as proof that there were no injuries. Furthermore, it would take a lot of work to fake an entire video segment and not just one little picture like the one Phatscotty posted.


Pffthaha.

You can not "enhance" a video, that's bullshit. A video contains a certain amount of data. There's no way to somehow make it contain more data, by doing some weird "enhance" thing that just sort of magically makes it better. It's fixed resolution. You zoom in, all you see is huge pixels.

The "enhanced" video just looks like someone airbrushed a red blot on zimmerman's head in each frame. It's so obviously fake it's not even funny.


It looks like they just increased the brightness and lowered the noise, neither of which is magic but are terms that won't be understood by the general public, whereas "enhance" is a more commonly understood word.

There's all sorts of room for media bias but to suggest the oldest broadcaster on the planet Earth is amateurishly airbrushing in red spots kind of leaves you sharing a straight-jacket with people who claim ...

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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby oVo on Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:35 am

TheGeneral2112 wrote:Again with this shit? Don't you listen?
Does the Police report or any of the "witnesses" know who started it?

TheGeneral2112 wrote:For anyone wondering about what happened when the cops showed up, here you go.
Everyone has read what happened when the cops showed up, what isn't known is what happened before the cops showed up.
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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby natty dread on Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:17 am

saxitoxin wrote:It looks like they just increased the brightness and lowered the noise, neither of which is magic


Indeed they aren't.

De-noising isn't an exact science, it's based on frequency analysis - basically just smoothing out certain frequencies of the image... it doesn't make wounds magically appear where none were visible before.

The "wound" is obviously photoshopped. It doesn't even look real.
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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby Borderdawg on Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:11 am

natty dread wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:It looks like they just increased the brightness and lowered the noise, neither of which is magic


Indeed they aren't.

De-noising isn't an exact science, it's based on frequency analysis - basically just smoothing out certain frequencies of the image... it doesn't make wounds magically appear where none were visible before.

The "wound" is obviously photoshopped. It doesn't even look real.


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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby thegreekdog on Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:20 am

Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:http://www.theblaze.com/stories/abc-new-enhanced-video-seems-to-show-injuries-on-zimmermans-head/

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ABC released new, “enhanced” video on Monday that appears to show injuries on George Zimmerman’s head, possibly adding to his defense that he was attacked before shooting Trayvon Martin.


Careful dude, you're posting about the Trayvon Martin thing, TGD will explain why you shouldn't post.


Yeah, he shouldn't post either.
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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby natty dread on Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:30 am

Borderdawg wrote:
natty dread wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:It looks like they just increased the brightness and lowered the noise, neither of which is magic


Indeed they aren't.

De-noising isn't an exact science, it's based on frequency analysis - basically just smoothing out certain frequencies of the image... it doesn't make wounds magically appear where none were visible before.

The "wound" is obviously photoshopped. It doesn't even look real.


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She does? Nice.

I suppose you're the father then? I can't imagine how else you'd know about her progeny...
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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:44 am

natty dread wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:It looks like they just increased the brightness and lowered the noise, neither of which is magic


Indeed they aren't.

De-noising isn't an exact science, it's based on frequency analysis - basically just smoothing out certain frequencies of the image... it doesn't make wounds magically appear where none were visible before.

The "wound" is obviously photoshopped. It doesn't even look real.


LOL, I don't even know where to go with this.

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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby Nola_Lifer on Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:17 am

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Nola_Lifer wrote:I can't believe yall are supporting a person who killed a man unless there was evidence that the other had a weapon. So far, there was no report about Martin having a weapon, yet Zimmerman did have a gun. Who was acting in self-defense first? Martin? Guess we won't get his half of the story seeing he was killed.


The Stand Your Ground law includes NO requirement that the other person must have a weapon for you to stand your ground. Furthermore, a person could fight well enough to incapacitate the person who does have a weapon and then use that weapon to kill them, so a lack of a weapon does not automatically indicate innocence.


Look at how skinny Martin is compared to Zimmerman. You gonna tell me that that young man would be able to take on Zimmerman and beat him to death without help from others. This kid isn't a trained fighter.
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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby Borderdawg on Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:45 pm

natty dread wrote:
Borderdawg wrote:
natty dread wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:It looks like they just increased the brightness and lowered the noise, neither of which is magic


Indeed they aren't.

De-noising isn't an exact science, it's based on frequency analysis - basically just smoothing out certain frequencies of the image... it doesn't make wounds magically appear where none were visible before.

The "wound" is obviously photoshopped. It doesn't even look real.


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She does? Nice.

I suppose you're the father then? I can't imagine how else you'd know about her progeny...


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Re: Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman

Postby natty dread on Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:50 pm

Borderdawg wrote:
natty dread wrote:
Borderdawg wrote:
natty dread wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:It looks like they just increased the brightness and lowered the noise, neither of which is magic


Indeed they aren't.

De-noising isn't an exact science, it's based on frequency analysis - basically just smoothing out certain frequencies of the image... it doesn't make wounds magically appear where none were visible before.

The "wound" is obviously photoshopped. It doesn't even look real.


....who knew PLAYER57832 had a bastard kid in Finland.......


She does? Nice.

I suppose you're the father then? I can't imagine how else you'd know about her progeny...


........well, I've been with some real skanky bitches in my day, and you're what, 28, 29? So it is quite possible you could be one of my demon spawn..........


Who, me? Nah. I'm too good looking to be related to you.
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