spiesr wrote:thehippo8 wrote:Well, well, well. I waited to see what wonders would happen and the wonder is why I wondered at all!! So, yes MC you are quite right to say kill Spart. Now we can do that tomorrow. Today is your lucky day ... unvote (if required): vote MC
So, I think this vote puts us back to L-1. I personally think that it would be a mistake to end the day before we can wring more information out of Spartacus. So, mc05025, you might want to take your extra vote off of yourself to get a little breathing room back. On the other hand, the results of this lynch should more or less confirm him one way or the other.
The flip side to that though is that I currently feel like I believe mc05025's current claim more than I believe Spartacus2. A lynch of Spartacus2 has the same confirm/deny effect on mc05025, so I feel that we should give this some serious thought here. I mean, aren't we going to have to lynch Spartacus at some point no matter what?
Anyhow, I suppose that if I am going to officially come down on mc05025's side I might as well try to cobble together some sort of defense for him. One thing that comes to mind off hand is that mc05025's insistence that people remove their votes from him immediately without any reason makes a little more sense when now that you can see that his plan for his defense was to add another vote to himself. It's somewhat more reasonable, but still poorly handled, that he would want the extra room before adding another vote to himself. (Why he thought he needed to vote himself is still beyond me...)
And then of course there is the big point of why did Spartacus2 not see mc05025's double voting power. I can only think of two options that make sense right now.
1. Spartacus lied.
2. mc05025 has a scum mate double voter who is helping him out.
The second option certainly can't be ruled out, but I think the first is more likely. This raises the question of why Spartacus would claim this action that would certainly result in him getting caught after we lynch mc05025. The answer: hell if I know. He hasn't been terribly logical so far, why start now? The best theory I can come up with is that he was screwed over by a claim that he can't back up anyway so he thought he might as well claim a result that would get somebody lynched. (Thus forcing a mislynch and letting him live one more day.) The only other option that I could see being available to him in his position would be to claim to have had his power target safariguy and just tell us stuff we already knew.
So,
Vote Spartacus Jr.And yeah, I echo the sentiments of frustration with this game/day that others have expressed. I feel that we are going to make the "wrong" lynch today. And that I won't really be able to hold that mistake against any of the people who vote for it due to the circumstances leading up to it. The blame here pretty much all falls on mc05025 for the way he handled his own defense. (And also those who screwed us out of our chance to lynch Spartacus2 yesterday...)
Okay, I'm coming around here to spiesr's view. Let's look...
SPARTACUS1974 wrote:ok here is the info i got last night my path was crossed by Fenrir greyback , his power works every other night when he turns from human to werewolf so for this
vote mc025
His power works every other night.
SPARTACUS1974 wrote:everywhere116 wrote:thehippo8 wrote:Ok Everywhere ... what happened with Survivor?
Well the tribe voted out Jonas, blindsiding him. This despite the fact that he was the best cook they had. I'm not sure what this has to do with the game though.
Sparty, you're going to have to clarify. You got MC's role PM, right? Who is Fenrir, what is his power, and why should we vote for him?
yes that is mc role his power is every other night not sure which he can attack sometimes they die other times the survive but are stoped from using there powers due to being injured . not sure if he is a deatheater or allied to them ?
SPART is clearly saying that his role is a werewolf with power every other night...blah, blah, blah.
I don't know why I didn't see it earlier, but the fact that MC was confident to prove his role is a daytime power, and then proved it with a double vote makes sense. Yes, there could be a mafia double voter out there covering for him...but unlikely. MC was too cocky and confident to prove his power was during the day, not night. If he would have just come out and said it, it would have been much clearer. I think his lying and beating around the bush distracted me.
So, with that in mind, SPART's disjointed explanations start to be clearer as to why they are disjointed and terrible. I don't think he's getting shiznit from the mod. I think he's made it all up, and I wish I could go back to yesterday and lynch him.
UNVOTE VOTE SPARTACUSTo further my point, SPART states below (very clearly, actually) that he gets moved around randomly with another wizard, and that if the wizard he is moved around with is visited by a night action, he will know. That means that Fenrir would have visited someone else last night and most likely killed or blocked that person. Unless someone got blocked last night, then MC was paired with Safariguy, who died. However, seems odd that Fenrir would be the only kill...unless he was the mafia agent. I would almost expect two kills with a Fenrir in the game. Okay, now I'm getting into mod=-land...but those are my thoughts, and my new vote.
SPARTACUS1974 wrote:You are Severus Snape ( Wizard Hunter )
You always had a fond for dark magic, soon recruited to the deatheaters in your youth,but you came to realize the true side you needed to be on when you joined Albus who had no respect for such magic.
So now you follow Albus' wishes and fight against the dark lord and his deatheaters.
green part.
my power is every other night i get moved around randomly with another wizard good and bad so if a deatheater tries to block us ,bus us , well any night activity i find out there roles.
the downside is as im using dark magic this is not good i can only use this info for a few times before i turn and go back to the dark side and rejoin the deatheaters.
the role can be very usefull to town if only for the first couple of nights to get info then after that before i turn you have to kill me i do not know the exact amount of times i can use this power but im guessing not to many between 2or3.
thats all i can say about my role without getting mod killed lol.
i suggest taking a look at the ones who are still screaming for a lynch.
. In addition I wanted to make a bit more spicy. Any tawny that is going to die just say his truth identity and the mafia know exactly what to do at night.
trust me I will take no more offense to anything. You can all hate me, feel bad, adore me, blame me, insult me, respect me, idolize me....I am enjoying watching you guys. That is all.
