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		sniper wrote:damnit TG even small things like that are spoilers use the tags ffs.





		TA1LGUNN3R wrote:As the Brits say, Joffrey is a right little cunt. He's 12 or 13 iirc. Sansa is a year or two older than he is. Yeah tkr, Tyrion is awesome, and Peter Dinklage owns that role. As the story progresses, Jaimie and Cersei do have some chapters, and Jaimie actually turns out to be pretty cool (no spoiler but he changes a little, or at least you're given a better view of him in another light). You're also given some back story on Twyin and why he's such a hardass.
And yeah, last night's ep. was great. Looking forward to the next.
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Timminz wrote:By that logic, you eat babies.










		spurgistan wrote:Was it me not having read Clash of Kings in a bit, or did a lot of scenes in the opener not appear in the book? I'm not complaining, at all, but I'm wondering if and when we're gonna start to deviate from the books. Awesome way to start the season off, though. I'm hoping someday they go back and make the direwolves look proper badass.



		tkr4lf wrote:As for Joffrey, I see him as drunk on power. I mean, earlier in the first season, he was actually nice to what's-her-face. It wasn't until he became King that he became a royal douche. But, combine that with his spoiled upbringing, his very feminine looks (this is probably not a valid reason for disliking someone, especially since I don't even know if that's how he looks in the books, that could just be bad casting for all I know), and his general attitude (which could well be a result of youthful inexperience) towards everybody else, and he makes for an extremely unlikable character (at least to me).
Perhaps with more experience, he would grow into a king that values his subjects, recognizes and utilizes the experience and collective wisdom of his advisers, etc. For now, it seems he would merely blow them off with a "A King takes orders from no one!" shrug. But for now, he comes off as a spoiled little brat who got some power and has gone mad with it.
As for why he's being a douche to what's-her-face, I think a lot of it has to do with her father.
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:He's 12 or 13 iirc. Sansa is a year or two older than he is.


















		Symmetry wrote:spurgistan wrote:Was it me not having read Clash of Kings in a bit, or did a lot of scenes in the opener not appear in the book? I'm not complaining, at all, but I'm wondering if and when we're gonna start to deviate from the books. Awesome way to start the season off, though. I'm hoping someday they go back and make the direwolves look proper badass.
Nah, you're right at least as far as my memory serves. The series started deviating from the books in the first season though.
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		spurgistan wrote:Symmetry wrote:spurgistan wrote:Was it me not having read Clash of Kings in a bit, or did a lot of scenes in the opener not appear in the book? I'm not complaining, at all, but I'm wondering if and when we're gonna start to deviate from the books. Awesome way to start the season off, though. I'm hoping someday they go back and make the direwolves look proper badass.
Nah, you're right at least as far as my memory serves. The series started deviating from the books in the first season though.
Was anything different in the first season, thematically? I read that after watching the series, so I mighta imagined the book as the show. I do hear somebody dies in season 2 that didn't die in Clash.



		Symmetry wrote:Not much with the first book, I think, but that bard who gets punished in the last episode, is kind of important later on.


















		Bones2484 wrote:Symmetry wrote:Not much with the first book, I think, but that bard who gets punished in the last episode, is kind of important later on.
Which is strange since he is not the bard who is punished by Joffrey in the books. He should still be in the Eyrie.
edit: I guess that's what you were implying by the question of "What is different?". Got it.



		

















		tkr4lf wrote:I found all 5 books packaged together in a torrent, so I downloaded them. I've been reading the first book. While it sucks reading a book in PDF format, it is a great read. I owe this website thanks for exposing me to this series.













		







		
















		







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