TOMBSTONE MAFIA *Day 7* MAFIA WIN!!!!!!

[The1exile]

Possibly we lost the cop and hider the first night to choosing a paranoid gun owner?

[wicked]

Possibly we lost the cop and hider the first night to choosing a paranoid gun owner?

huh???

[XenHu]

That is possible but why would the vig take his one and only shot on night one when almost no info was to be had? My hope is the vig is just thinking more and will make a more informed decision next time.

Trigger-happy/Noob Vig?


-X

[Syzygy]

That's interesting. I wonder why it took AK so long to be killed.


-X

Maybe we have a noob mafia?

[got tonkaed]

i would find it somewhat unlikely that in an nearly all invite game that we have a noob mafia. I would think its just as likely that the mafia knows that everyone knows Ak is an early target so they tried to buy some credibility by going after a less obvious target off the bat, which was probably blocked.

[Syzygy]

i would find it somewhat unlikely that in an nearly all invite game that we have a noob mafia. I would think its just as likely that the mafia knows that everyone knows Ak is an early target so they tried to buy some credibility by going after a less obvious target off the bat, which was probably blocked.

Too many mafia games at once. They're all blending into one another.

What you're saying seems far more plausible.

[The1exile]

Possibly we lost the cop and hider the first night to choosing a paranoid gun owner?

huh???

Paranoid gun owner - if you target it for a night action, it kills you. that goes for cop, doc, mafia - anything but roleblocker.

PM aimless for a couple of good stories about how that role's played out in the past.

[wicked]

exile I'm saying "huh" b/c we would've known if we lost a cop - as the roles are revealed upon death.

[wicked]

strike that last. I see the cop's dead. d'oh! multiple games are hard to keep track of! my bad.

[MountainLion]

So either Mafia or SK was blocked last night? We finally got something going are way. Maybe the blocker has some valuable info now.

[AK_iceman]

Bah! Whatever... good luck townies.

[wicked]

So long? It's only night two! lol

[Aimless]

Trigger-happy/Noob Vig?

-X[/quote]

If we have a vig, this is my guess.

If we have an SK or a second mafia, then it's more likely that they were blocked, or that AK managed to protect someone before he died.

Based on the theme, I'm not sure which is more likely. I'd actually be willing to bet that we have both an SK and a vig, and that the night 1 kill was the SK's work.

[MountainLion]

Actually it seems like Doc Holliday would be the Vigilante. He's a "good guy" who's not a cop, and he killed Johnny Ringo in the movie.

[Aimless]

Mmmm. That's probably Mod's License on AD's part; there isn't really a doc in the movie, at least not anyone who'd be a main character.

[MountainLion]

Although Holliday did kind of protect Wyatt by going after Ringo before he could. But that really doesn't matter. If there's a Vig or not, we need to get a Mafia kill today or this is going no where fast.

I don't think Iceman's death tells us much. He went after Hitman on Day 2 and Hitman was a townie. We'll probably have to start pointing fingers again and hope someone slips up.

I think the mafia are experienced players who are just watching the less experienced get lynched.

[MountainLion]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

(9) Hitman079 - AK_iceman, Unriggable, the1exile, Syzygy, I GOT SERVED, Got Tonkaed, Moz976, Mandolorian2298
(3) I GOT SERVED - Wicked, Fircoal

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch!!!!

I count 8 votes on Hitman and two on IGS

[MountainLion]

So far the only people we've lynched were townies. Mafia know who other mafia are, so whoever they are they would be comfortable voting on Sheep and Hitman. Perhaps we should look at those who've voted on both of them.

[mandalorian2298]

So far the only people we've lynched were townies. Mafia know who other mafia are, so whoever they are they would be comfortable voting on Sheep and Hitman. Perhaps we should look at those who've voted on both of them.

That is a good plan, but futile in this case. The reason is: ALL the people who voted Hitman had also voted sheep (although my vote was slow posted.

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT FOR DAY #1
(11) Sheepisdumb - AK_iceman, Wicked, Got Tonkaed, Moz976, Xenhu, Syzygy, Colaalone, Unriggable, Aimless, the1exile, I GOT SERVED

I should be also added to the list of people who voted for sheep, athough my vote was slow posted. (since intention to vote him is what matters in this case)

(9) Hitman079 - AK_iceman, Unriggable, the1exile, Syzygy, I GOT SERVED, Got Tonkaed, Moz976, Mandolorian2298

The problem we are facing here is: on both Day 1 and Day 2, we lynched people because of their poor performance and not because of actual evidence that pointed their way. On Day 1 sheep pulled the now-legendary "Master sheep" stunt after wich most of the people wanted to get rid of him more then they wanted to hunt scum. On Day 2, Hitman got voted of mostly because of his inactivity. We invested much more time to constructive argument during Day 2, but in the end Hitman got killed because he didn't roleclaim, even though he was given more then enough time to do so.
Since the idea behind your post was (I assume) to FOS all the people who voted sheep & Hitman, I will give you my reason reasons for both votes. On Day 1 I voted sheep because it was obvious that he is going to be lynched and that he should be lynched if for no other reason then for the fact that many players were so angry with him that they focused most of their attention on telling him off. It was obvious that the gameplay could continue only after sheep was lynched (or worst, killed by an vigilante who couldn't help himself ). So, I voted for him to complete the lynch and (hopefully) bring everyone's attention back to the game.
As for Hitman, I droped the hammer on him to avoid No Lynch, pure and simple. Although Aimless's words about not voting for the sake of "lynching somebody" have found the way to a (non-bloodthirsty and thus small ) part of my heart, IMO that rule onyl applies to people who defend themselves and participate in the game. If you check my posts prior to the lynch, I informed him that I am going to drop the hammer unless he roleclaims and I waited 'till 15 minutes before deadline to cast my vote. It seemed (and still seems) to me pretty pointless to allow a No Lynch and spare a guy who isn't even bothering to show up.

[wicked]

I started to look at the vote records too, but then realized it didn't look like they would tell us much.

[mafia] tried to buy some credibility by going after a less obvious target off the bat, which was probably blocked.

whaddaya mean blocked? you expected MORE deaths?

[Aimless]

Well, the good news is that we've gotten rid of some deadwood. The bad news is, we've lost two power roles, and haven't learned much.

So, for now, I'm going to treat this as if it were day one all over again. The town is at a bit of a disadvantage, but I can't think of a good way to sift through this mess of data to find any suspects. Thus, time to start making a new voting record.

Random Vote: mandalorian

Why aren't you scum?

[wicked]

your actions seem random aim. even if you're too lazy to go reading through it all, doesn't mean the rest of us can't glean useful info from it.

FOS Aim

[got tonkaed]

I dont disagree with your idea here aimless to start things over as if it was day 1, however im going to start with you sir,


Why exactly arent you scum?

[Aimless]

I'm not too lazy; I just didn't see anything terribly useful when I did go through it.

As has been said, the voting record is basically useless. I'll go through everything else one more time, but, really, I want to start random voting to see if we can generate some new, potentially useful data.

So, my vote was random, but my intentions aren't. Let's see who votes for whom for day three (and try to get as much data as possible before night), and compare with the record on Hitman's lynch.

[Aimless]

Why exactly arent you scum?

Hmmm. The only thing of note I've done so far this game was ask that we not lynch solely for the sake of lynching, and give everyone a chance to roleclaim before we drop the hammer.

Other than that, I'm pretty much in the dark as to who is what role this game. Hence, the reason I want to try to generate new data.

That satisfactory, or do you have any other questions?