Matrix Mafia Endgame, Town and Survivors win!

[betiko]

well I was one of the guys who voted for roussalier and during my sleep saf has replaced him by clever and invalidated the roussalier vote, so people are just not paying attention. we were like 4 voters on him so obviously that makes a few people who are counted as none voters.

Otherwise I think that iron butterfly still shows to be actively submarining. I don't know yet about neb, so I'd rather try this new case out, there is already a few votes on IB.

Vote Iron butterfly

[thehippo8]

well I was one of the guys who voted for roussalier and during my sleep saf has replaced him by clever and invalidated the roussalier vote, so people are just not paying attention. we were like 4 voters on him so obviously that makes a few people who are counted as none voters.

Otherwise I think that iron butterfly still shows to be actively submarining. I don't know yet about neb, so I'd rather try this new case out, there is already a few votes on IB.

Vote Iron butterfly

Oh yeah, I remember that now! Sorry mod!

I don't like the BWon Neb, but see no reason not to pressure IB some more, so ... unvote vote IB.

[dazza2008]

Unvote I belive the claim.

Not sure why Milkshake is playing mod here. He says the role should be a mason. That is crazy thinking. What is the mod did not want mason's in the game or there are other characters who fitted the mason role better in the mods mind.

Also what are you asking for Jak? You say he needs to speak soon or you will lynch him. He has claimed VT so what other info do you think he could give.

We have time to pressure someone else here, it seems stupid to lynch him just because he claimed VT. Too often in games it is just decided that VT's are useless so we kill them. That is stupid play. VT's can still catch scum and soak up som night kills.

I would like to pressure Jak or milkshake here.

[betiko]

Unvote I belive the claim.

Not sure why Milkshake is playing mod here. He says the role should be a mason. That is crazy thinking. What is the mod did not want mason's in the game or there are other characters who fitted the mason role better in the mods mind.

Also what are you asking for Jak? You say he needs to speak soon or you will lynch him. He has claimed VT so what other info do you think he could give.

We have time to pressure someone else here, it seems stupid to lynch him just because he claimed VT. Too often in games it is just decided that VT's are useless so we kill them. That is stupid play. VT's can still catch scum and soak up som night kills.

I would like to pressure Jak or milkshake here.

are you asking for permission? why don't you vote for either one then?

[dazza2008]

Unvote I belive the claim.

Not sure why Milkshake is playing mod here. He says the role should be a mason. That is crazy thinking. What is the mod did not want mason's in the game or there are other characters who fitted the mason role better in the mods mind.

Also what are you asking for Jak? You say he needs to speak soon or you will lynch him. He has claimed VT so what other info do you think he could give.

We have time to pressure someone else here, it seems stupid to lynch him just because he claimed VT. Too often in games it is just decided that VT's are useless so we kill them. That is stupid play. VT's can still catch scum and soak up som night kills.

I would like to pressure Jak or milkshake here.

are you asking for permission? why don't you vote for either one then?

I want to see what both of them have to say first. I will vote when I want to mate.

[DoomYoshi]

Yea, I think jak's problem right now is that he is just in a habit of using certain bromides and now can't stop. There is no other information we can get.

Likewise, playing the mod is stupid, but not enough to warrant voting crazy (I don't see anything scummy about it).

@Neb: Do you realize that if you are a VT, part of what you need to do now is die? A VT is most useful if he draws the mafia kill, but equally useful as a day 1 BW/lynch. So, if we do kill you (and we probably will) you shouldn't have any hard feelings, this is part of VT play.

The entire voting for people who haven't voted and waiting for after 4 players had their votes wiped off is weird; although I think it may be just due to the pressure of L-2.

I am interested to see Iron post, but I think he has enough votes on him for now.

Eldario's play seems pretty cautious. I am sure of my townishness and therefore I can throw caution to the wind.

vote eldario

[dazza2008]

Likewise, playing the mod is stupid, but not enough to warrant voting crazy (I don't see anything scummy about it).

I see it as scummy. To me he is trying to make the claim not be believed and pushing the lynch. We have time so why not find more info?

@Neb: Do you realize that if you are a VT, part of what you need to do now is die? A VT is most useful if he draws the mafia kill, but equally useful as a day 1 BW/lynch. So, if we do kill you (and we probably will) you shouldn't have any hard feelings, this is part of VT play.

I agree he may have to die. But it depends on the next claim. I see no point in lynching him just because he is a VT.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

my thoughts.

neb-he was pushed to a claim didnt wanna claim at first but then he did. he claims vt and then i guess thats were everyone unvotes. but i guess noone believes it. and i dont see why what evidence says he is lieing? none really your playing the mod and that will screw up the game. so until otherwise proven of his innocence i will unvote

IB-ok i didnt really get if there was a case on him? is it just inactive hunting?

and i think someone has me voted me and i dont know why (i replaced Rossalier if thats how its spelt) so if someone had something on him can i be told so i can try to defend against it.

[DoomYoshi]

Oh, one more thing. I am putting this on the record books as a success for the yoshi rollcall. We didn't even get to the first person and it generated a lot of activity and discussion.

[Eldario]

unvote

[Eldario]

my thoughts.

neb-he was pushed to a claim didnt wanna claim at first but then he did. he claims vt and then i guess thats were everyone unvotes. but i guess noone believes it. and i dont see why what evidence says he is lieing? none really your playing the mod and that will screw up the game. so until otherwise proven of his innocence i will unvote

IB-ok i didnt really get if there was a case on him? is it just inactive hunting?

and i think someone has me voted me and i dont know why (i replaced Rossalier if thats how its spelt) so if someone had something on him can i be told so i can try to defend against it.

the rules clearly states that votes and unvotes must be bold to count, so redo and do right, if your unvote were sincere

[dazza2008]

my thoughts.

neb-he was pushed to a claim didnt wanna claim at first but then he did. he claims vt and then i guess thats were everyone unvotes. but i guess noone believes it. and i dont see why what evidence says he is lieing? none really your playing the mod and that will screw up the game. so until otherwise proven of his innocence i will unvote

IB-ok i didnt really get if there was a case on him? is it just inactive hunting?

and i think someone has me voted me and i dont know why (i replaced Rossalier if thats how its spelt) so if someone had something on him can i be told so i can try to defend against it.

the rules clearly states that votes and unvotes must be bold to count, so redo and do right, if your unvote were sincere

I am pretty sure Saf will count it like that. He is not a dickhead.

Is this your contribution to the discussion. Nice.

[Eldario]

my thoughts.

neb-he was pushed to a claim didnt wanna claim at first but then he did. he claims vt and then i guess thats were everyone unvotes. but i guess noone believes it. and i dont see why what evidence says he is lieing? none really your playing the mod and that will screw up the game. so until otherwise proven of his innocence i will unvote

IB-ok i didnt really get if there was a case on him? is it just inactive hunting?

and i think someone has me voted me and i dont know why (i replaced Rossalier if thats how its spelt) so if someone had something on him can i be told so i can try to defend against it.

the rules clearly states that votes and unvotes must be bold to count, so redo and do right, if your unvote were sincere

I am pretty sure Saf will count it like that. He is not a dickhead.

Is this your contribution to the discussion. Nice.

I know, I tried to be funny but I'm very tired, sorry if I offended someone

[Leehar]

1. freezie
2. edocsil
3. jak111
4. DoomYoshi
5. Iron Butterfly
6. MoB Deadly
7. crazymilkshake5
8. Leehar
9. skillfusniper33
10. thehippo8
11. betiko
12. Eldario
13. SPARTACUS1974
14. Djfireside
15. dazza2008
16. Nebuchadnezer
17. jonty125
18. everywhere116
19. Roussallier replaced by Some7hingClever
20. cowboyz
21. shieldgenerator7
22. thechuck51
23. ghostly447
24. soundman

So first you don't include me in your list of 9 that haven't voted, and then you make a completely different list on inactives?

Busy the last few days but I'm caught up now. Who do I think the scummiest is? Hippo. Look back at his posts. They have all been pretty much fluff posts with him jumping around with his votes without any real reason. Though CMS brings up a good point about Neb's claim. I don't really see Tank as being a VT either. Though with him being "pure human" with no special powers (so to speak) I can also see him possibly being a VT. I'm just not sure. So I'll go with my original thought and Vote Hippo.

He's pretty much always like that tho. After the first 3 or 4 times he got lynched for the same thing and never learned anything, we just stopped trying.

Unvote Looks like we're finally getting serious so time to take off the jokevote on IB.
Was pretty nice to see some good activity as well tho from the last night and a bit. Was that over 5 pages?!

But I'm inclined to just go for anyone who's still inactive after all this. The only ones I don't remember sticking out over the last readthrough are djfireside and cowboyz?

[dazza2008]

my thoughts.

neb-he was pushed to a claim didnt wanna claim at first but then he did. he claims vt and then i guess thats were everyone unvotes. but i guess noone believes it. and i dont see why what evidence says he is lieing? none really your playing the mod and that will screw up the game. so until otherwise proven of his innocence i will unvote

IB-ok i didnt really get if there was a case on him? is it just inactive hunting?

and i think someone has me voted me and i dont know why (i replaced Rossalier if thats how its spelt) so if someone had something on him can i be told so i can try to defend against it.

the rules clearly states that votes and unvotes must be bold to count, so redo and do right, if your unvote were sincere

I am pretty sure Saf will count it like that. He is not a dickhead.

Is this your contribution to the discussion. Nice.

I know, I tried to be funny but I'm very tired, sorry if I offended someone

You never offended. I just expected more input. Sorry I should have known you were tired.

[Djfireside]

Yeah that definately ended the joke vote stage quickly. Nothing like rule pumping to move stages. On to the game

[crazymilkshake5]

ok guys, slightly noob question, what does OMGUS mean? oh my gosh you serious?

[dazza2008]

ok guys, slightly noob question, what does OMGUS mean? oh my gosh you serious?

Oh My God U Suck.

It is used when someone votes the player who voted them.

[jonty125]

unvote vote thehippo. His vote is flip-flopping worse than a wet flip-flop. He votes edoc, next post unvotes. And then the pressure moves on to IB and he votes IB.

[SPARTACUS1974]

sorry for not posting been busy at sea will post after i have had some food

[Leehar]

unvote vote thehippo. His vote is flip-flopping worse than a wet flip-flop. He votes edoc, next post unvotes. And then the pressure moves on to IB and he votes IB.

Skim much?

[jonty125]

unvote vote thehippo. His vote is flip-flopping worse than a wet flip-flop. He votes edoc, next post unvotes. And then the pressure moves on to IB and he votes IB.

Skim much?

No, he decides to vote edoc, edoc posts once and he immediately retreats.

[Leehar]

I know he does that. I just explained earlier in the page about that just apparently being his default game play and it's not worth getting on him because the real worry would be if he actually did change his gamestyle, but I guess this could all just be me meta-gaming

[jonty125]

I know he does that. I just explained earlier in the page about that just apparently being his default game play and it's not worth getting on him because the real worry would be if he actually did change his gamestyle, but I guess this could all just be me meta-gaming

I know, that hippo's vote flips a lot but this is extreme, even for hippo.

[soundman]

Busy the last few days but I'm caught up now. Who do I think the scummiest is? Hippo. Look back at his posts. They have all been pretty much fluff posts with him jumping around with his votes without any real reason. Though CMS brings up a good point about Neb's claim. I don't really see Tank as being a VT either. Though with him being "pure human" with no special powers (so to speak) I can also see him possibly being a VT. I'm just not sure. So I'll go with my original thought and Vote Hippo.

He's pretty much always like that tho. After the first 3 or 4 times he got lynched for the same thing and never learned anything, we just stopped trying.

Thinking back I do remember him playing like this. However what do you make of this?

Anyway, it's either lynch Neb or follow his suggestions for the good of town!

I don't like the BW on Neb, but see no reason not to pressure IB some more, so ... unvote vote IB.

These two quotes are two posts apart. I don't know what you think but it look like he's contradicting himself. And then he's going against what he said in the first quote by going after IB because betiko is voting for him for active submarining. Maybe this is all nothing but it just struck me funny.