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Re: Sweden Adopts Gender Neutral Pronoun

Postby BigBallinStalin on Wed May 02, 2012 1:12 am

natty dread wrote:What strawman arguments where?

I haven't posted any strawman arguments. You can't refuse to characterize your argument clearly and then when someone tries to make some sense of your incoherent ramblings accuse them of strawmanning. Or you can but then you'd be a troll.

I'm not really demanding anything onerous of you - only that you make your arguments clear, and not refer to some vague youtube videos that may or may not contain footage of monkeys masturbating in a bucket...


If you read what I wrote, then you wouldn't write the following because it's not what I said.

- the gender wage gap doesn't exist OR the gender wage gap does exist but is actually caused by some mysterious market forces and not sexism
- any external measures that try to correct sexism or gender inequality are stupid, because they are external measures and external measures are bad always
- internal measures should be used instead, but what those internal measures are or how they could be implemented, no one knows


Obviously, you don't care to read what I write, nor do you care to spend 4 minutes watching a video, so what's the point? Ever since you left the Foundry team, is this what you've reduced yourself to? What else can we expect of the Finnish Boy Wonder?

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I picture you in your room, with the blue glow of a computer screen lighting up a narrow part of your life. As you pound out weak sauce on the internet, the empty beer cans quiver from your incessant pounding of the keyboard. Natty, come to the natural light. Enjoy some meat balls in cream sauce. I'm here for you.
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Re: Sweden Adopts Gender Neutral Pronoun

Postby BigBallinStalin on Wed May 02, 2012 1:13 am

army of nobunaga wrote:Seems like Bigballinstalin defended his position- like he usually does... and Natty attacked the argument and methods of argument then the person and resorted to a masturbating comment.... point to the balls.

On a serious note you people need to not confront the bigball personally because he usually rolls all of you.


And on another note... Doesn't Sweden still have the only ogres left in existence? Maybe not but they do have some good ass balls of meat in cream sauce.


I'm not sure, AoN, but there might be one in Finland that learned how to type in English. There are dark days ahead, and all the good ass balls of meat in cream sauce can't fix it.
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Re: Sweden Adopts Gender Neutral Pronoun

Postby army of nobunaga on Wed May 02, 2012 1:15 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:
natty dread wrote:What strawman arguments where?

I haven't posted any strawman arguments. You can't refuse to characterize your argument clearly and then when someone tries to make some sense of your incoherent ramblings accuse them of strawmanning. Or you can but then you'd be a troll.

I'm not really demanding anything onerous of you - only that you make your arguments clear, and not refer to some vague youtube videos that may or may not contain footage of monkeys masturbating in a bucket...


If you read what I wrote, then you wouldn't write the following because it's not what I said.

- the gender wage gap doesn't exist OR the gender wage gap does exist but is actually caused by some mysterious market forces and not sexism
- any external measures that try to correct sexism or gender inequality are stupid, because they are external measures and external measures are bad always
- internal measures should be used instead, but what those internal measures are or how they could be implemented, no one knows


Obviously, you don't care to read what I write, nor do you care to spend 4 minutes watching a video, so what's the point? Ever since you left the Foundry team, is this what you've reduced yourself to? What else can we expect of the Finnish Boy Wonder?


He left the foundry team and got really really really damn bitter... I liked the old natty. I use to follow his posts in a different forum.

This Natty now is a shell. He needs to take a break and find that core of man he was... a hellova man. Right now he is sullying his name in the worst way.


We will see the progression of "the natty" here.




edit and lest be honest all of you.. the foundry is a fucking joke. And the guy put in a TON of quality hours and work.. for what? to be shit on? But Natty.... take a break... CC is just a goddamn pastime.. not reallife.
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Re: Sweden Adopts Gender Neutral Pronoun

Postby BigBallinStalin on Wed May 02, 2012 1:20 am

army of nobunaga wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
natty dread wrote:What strawman arguments where?

I haven't posted any strawman arguments. You can't refuse to characterize your argument clearly and then when someone tries to make some sense of your incoherent ramblings accuse them of strawmanning. Or you can but then you'd be a troll.

I'm not really demanding anything onerous of you - only that you make your arguments clear, and not refer to some vague youtube videos that may or may not contain footage of monkeys masturbating in a bucket...


If you read what I wrote, then you wouldn't write the following because it's not what I said.

- the gender wage gap doesn't exist OR the gender wage gap does exist but is actually caused by some mysterious market forces and not sexism
- any external measures that try to correct sexism or gender inequality are stupid, because they are external measures and external measures are bad always
- internal measures should be used instead, but what those internal measures are or how they could be implemented, no one knows


Obviously, you don't care to read what I write, nor do you care to spend 4 minutes watching a video, so what's the point? Ever since you left the Foundry team, is this what you've reduced yourself to? What else can we expect of the Finnish Boy Wonder?


He left the foundry team and got really really really damn bitter... I liked the old natty. I use to follow his posts in a different forum.

This Natty now is a shell. He needs to take a break and find that core of man he was... a hellova man. Right now he is sullying his name in the worst way.


We will see the progression of "the natty" here.




edit and lest be honest all of you.. the foundry is a fucking joke. And the guy put in a TON of quality hours and work.. for what? to be shit on? But Natty.... take a break... CC is just a goddamn pastime.. not reallife.


I agree, and I do miss the old natty.
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Re: Sweden Adopts Gender Neutral Pronoun

Postby natty dread on Wed May 02, 2012 2:47 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:
natty dread wrote:What strawman arguments where?

I haven't posted any strawman arguments. You can't refuse to characterize your argument clearly and then when someone tries to make some sense of your incoherent ramblings accuse them of strawmanning. Or you can but then you'd be a troll.

I'm not really demanding anything onerous of you - only that you make your arguments clear, and not refer to some vague youtube videos that may or may not contain footage of monkeys masturbating in a bucket...


If you read what I wrote, then you wouldn't write the following because it's not what I said.

- the gender wage gap doesn't exist OR the gender wage gap does exist but is actually caused by some mysterious market forces and not sexism
- any external measures that try to correct sexism or gender inequality are stupid, because they are external measures and external measures are bad always
- internal measures should be used instead, but what those internal measures are or how they could be implemented, no one knows


Obviously, you don't care to read what I write, nor do you care to spend 4 minutes watching a video, so what's the point? Ever since you left the Foundry team, is this what you've reduced yourself to? What else can we expect of the Finnish Boy Wonder?


Ok, non sequitur ad hominems aside, if my characterization of your arguments is inaccurate, why don't you just clarify them and tell me, in your own words, what your arguments are?

Obviously, if you had bothered reading my posts, you'd notice I never claimed those were your arguments. I made a summary of how I perceived your arguments, and asked you if it was accurate, as a way of prompting you to clarify your points, but instead you found it more reasonable to go on a tangent and accuse me of strawmanning...

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I picture you in your room, with the blue glow of a computer screen lighting up a narrow part of your life. As you pound out weak sauce on the internet, the empty beer cans quiver from your incessant pounding of the keyboard. Natty, come to the natural light. Enjoy some meat balls in cream sauce. I'm here for you.


Really? The old "you have no life because you're on the internet" cliche? Yawn. I always find it funny how guys who spend their time on the internet accuse other guys who spend time on the internet of spending time on the internet... :lol:

ps, I don't like beer. You wouldn't either if you lived in finland, our beer tastes like piss.
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Re: Sweden Adopts Gender Neutral Pronoun

Postby BigBallinStalin on Wed May 02, 2012 9:45 am

natty dread wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
natty dread wrote:What strawman arguments where?

I haven't posted any strawman arguments. You can't refuse to characterize your argument clearly and then when someone tries to make some sense of your incoherent ramblings accuse them of strawmanning. Or you can but then you'd be a troll.

I'm not really demanding anything onerous of you - only that you make your arguments clear, and not refer to some vague youtube videos that may or may not contain footage of monkeys masturbating in a bucket...


If you read what I wrote, then you wouldn't write the following because it's not what I said.

- the gender wage gap doesn't exist OR the gender wage gap does exist but is actually caused by some mysterious market forces and not sexism
- any external measures that try to correct sexism or gender inequality are stupid, because they are external measures and external measures are bad always
- internal measures should be used instead, but what those internal measures are or how they could be implemented, no one knows


Obviously, you don't care to read what I write, nor do you care to spend 4 minutes watching a video, so what's the point? Ever since you left the Foundry team, is this what you've reduced yourself to? What else can we expect of the Finnish Boy Wonder?


Ok, non sequitur ad hominems aside, if my characterization of your arguments is inaccurate, why don't you just clarify them and tell me, in your own words, what your arguments are?

Obviously, if you had bothered reading my posts, you'd notice I never claimed those were your arguments. I made a summary of how I perceived your arguments, and asked you if it was accurate, as a way of prompting you to clarify your points, but instead you found it more reasonable to go on a tangent and accuse me of strawmanning...

EDIT:
I picture you in your room, with the blue glow of a computer screen lighting up a narrow part of your life. As you pound out weak sauce on the internet, the empty beer cans quiver from your incessant pounding of the keyboard. Natty, come to the natural light. Enjoy some meat balls in cream sauce. I'm here for you.


Really? The old "you have no life because you're on the internet" cliche? Yawn. I always find it funny how guys who spend their time on the internet accuse other guys who spend time on the internet of spending time on the internet... :lol:

ps, I don't like beer. You wouldn't either if you lived in finland, our beer tastes like piss.


I didn't say that. I just think you need to take a break.
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Re: Sweden Adopts Gender Neutral Pronoun

Postby laughingcavalier on Wed May 02, 2012 11:13 am

Is hen really gender neutral?
I guess it looks different in the Swedish alphabet.
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Re: Sweden Adopts Gender Neutral Pronoun

Postby natty dread on Wed May 02, 2012 12:32 pm

laughingcavalier wrote:Is hen really gender neutral?
I guess it looks different in the Swedish alphabet.


The finnish word for ass (as in the body part) is "perse", so it sounds really weird to me whenever people use the latin phrase "per se"... but I'm still not going around thinking people who don't speak finnish are talking about assholes whenever they use the phrase.

Similarly, you shouldn't assume that the entire world revolves around you and your culture - people who speak other languages don't really care how their words sound or look in your language.
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