Romney Campaign: No Gays Allowed

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Seeing as Mitt Romney basically fired one of his foreign policy advisors for being gay (technically, he resigned, because he was gay, but it's not like Willard stood up for the dude), is Romney now caving to the homophobic far right?

Romney gay spokesman quit after he was ‘told to shut up’ in front of junior staff

Richard Grenell Flap Had 'Blown Over,' Mitt Romney Campaign Staff Thought

Disturbing stuff, and rightly condemned from everyone but the far right.

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[GabonX]

condemned from everyone but the far right.

That's a bit of a stretch, as is your dishonest title.

[Symmetry]

condemned from everyone but the far right.

That's a bit of a stretch, as is your dishonest title.

Would you care to explain your thinking? Or are you merely content with calling me dishonest without the courage or knowledge to back up your assertion?

[GabonX]

condemned from everyone but the far right.

That's a bit of a stretch, as is your dishonest title.

Would you care to explain your thinking? Or are you merely content with calling me dishonest without the courage or knowledge to back up your assertion?

It's not a matter of courage or knowledge and frankly I'm surprised that you'd even need to ask. Your thread title states the Romney campaign has a policy of "no gays allowed" when in reality they hired one and he left willingly because of disagreements with others in the campaign, hence you are a liar.

[Symmetry]

condemned from everyone but the far right.

That's a bit of a stretch, as is your dishonest title.

Would you care to explain your thinking? Or are you merely content with calling me dishonest without the courage or knowledge to back up your assertion?

It's not a matter of courage or knowledge and frankly I'm surprised that you'd even need to ask. Your thread title states the Romney campaign has a policy of "no gays allowed" when in reality they hired one and he left willingly because of disagreements with others in the campaign, hence you are a liar.

Interesting, what do you think I lied about? Clearly he was forced out for being gay, and for no other reason. I'm a little baffled as to your weird credulity on Romney's campaign. Do you really think he left willingly?

Do you honestly think Romney would hire another member of staff who is gay?

Do try to back up your assertions with evidence next time. It makes my counter arguments more interesting.

[bedub1]

condemned from everyone but the far right.

That's a bit of a stretch, as is your dishonest title.

Would you care to explain your thinking? Or are you merely content with calling me dishonest without the courage or knowledge to back up your assertion?

It's not a matter of courage or knowledge and frankly I'm surprised that you'd even need to ask. Your thread title states the Romney campaign has a policy of "no gays allowed" when in reality they hired one and he left willingly because of disagreements with others in the campaign, hence you are a liar.

Interesting, what do you think I lied about? Clearly he was forced out for being gay, and for no other reason. I'm a little baffled as to your weird credulity on Romney's campaign. Do you really think he left willingly?

Do you honestly think Romney would hire another member of staff who is gay?

Do try to back up your assertions with evidence next time. It makes my counter arguments more interesting.

Did they know he was gay when they hired him? I agree he was forced out for being gay. Thread title seems appropriate.

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Did they know he was gay when they hired him? I agree he was forced out for being gay. Thread title seems appropriate.

As far as I can tell, yes. I doubt Romney will hire any more openly gay staffers though. No gays on his campaign.

[saxitoxin]

I doubt Romney will hire any more openly gay staffers though. No gays on his campaign.

Okay, sounds like we've got that all sorted out then.





Next topic - what's your favorite ice cream?

Mine is orange sorbet. (Is that an ice cream or is sorbet not considered part of the ice cream family?)

[bedub1]

I doubt Romney will hire any more openly gay staffers though. No gays on his campaign.

Okay, sounds like we've got that all sorted out then.





Next topic - what's your favorite ice cream?

Mine is orange sorbet. (Is that an ice cream or is sorbet not considered part of the ice cream family?)

I don't think a sorbet is an icecream. Just like frozen yogurt isn't icecream.

I think it's funny to see how fast rMoney switched it up from republican primaries vs general election. The dude is such a lying sack of shit. It should be an executable offense for a presidential candidate to lie to the public.

[Symmetry]

I doubt Romney will hire any more openly gay staffers though. No gays on his campaign.

Okay, sounds like we've got that all sorted out then.

Next topic - what's your favorite ice cream?

Mine is orange sorbet. (Is that an ice cream or is sorbet not considered part of the ice cream family?)

Come on dude, you're not even slightly concerned that Willard caved this early to the far right?

[saxitoxin]

I doubt Romney will hire any more openly gay staffers though. No gays on his campaign.

Okay, sounds like we've got that all sorted out then.





Next topic - what's your favorite ice cream?

Mine is orange sorbet. (Is that an ice cream or is sorbet not considered part of the ice cream family?)

I don't think a sorbet is an icecream. Just like frozen yogurt isn't icecream.

You're right, I just wikipediaed it. Apparently I should have said orange sherbert, not sorbet. All these years I could never figure out why the taste differed so greatly from place to place!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorbet#Ame ... erminology

[saxitoxin]

I doubt Romney will hire any more openly gay staffers though. No gays on his campaign.

Okay, sounds like we've got that all sorted out then.

Next topic - what's your favorite ice cream?

Mine is orange sorbet. (Is that an ice cream or is sorbet not considered part of the ice cream family?)

Come on dude, you're not even slightly concerned that Willard caved this early to the far right?

Oh, sorry, I thought you'd finished your monologue; my mistake - please continue.

(Gang - please suspend the ice cream talk until Symm's speech is over. Thank you!)

[GabonX]

From your article:

Several top Romney campaign officials tried to persuade Grenell to stay on and enlisted former Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman, another openly gay GOP figure, to appeal to him as well, according to a source with knowledge of Mehlman's involvement. Mehlman declined to comment to HuffPost.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/0 ... 72188.html

I agree he was forced out for being gay. Thread title seems appropriate.

"Forced" is a strong word

condemned from everyone but the far right.

That's a bit of a stretch, as is your dishonest title.

Would you care to explain your thinking? Or are you merely content with calling me dishonest without the courage or knowledge to back up your assertion?

It's not a matter of courage or knowledge and frankly I'm surprised that you'd even need to ask. Your thread title states the Romney campaign has a policy of "no gays allowed" when in reality they hired one and he left willingly because of disagreements with others in the campaign, hence you are a liar.

Interesting, what do you think I lied about? Clearly he was forced out for being gay, and for no other reason. I'm a little baffled as to your weird credulity on Romney's campaign. Do you really think he left willingly?

Do you honestly think Romney would hire another member of staff who is gay?

Do try to back up your assertions with evidence next time. It makes my counter arguments more interesting.

Your questions have been answered and you're choosing to ignore those answers. At this point I'm not sure if you're dishonest or delusional, but frankly I'm not interested in carrying on a conversation like this with someone as radically far left as you seem to be.

[Symmetry]

Your questions have been answered and you're choosing to ignore those answers. At this point I'm not sure if you're dishonest or delusional, but frankly I'm not interested in carrying on a conversation like this with someone as radically far left as you seem to be.

How sweet of you. You almost make it seem like your inability to answer basic questions or provide evidence for your strange assertions are somehow my fault, and indeed that your cowardice and inability to admit your mistakes are a point of virtue, rather than you running away, scared, afraid, and ignorant.

A cute attempt, nonetheless. Maybe next time wear the big boy pants.

[saxitoxin]

Your questions have been answered and you're choosing to ignore those answers. At this point I'm not sure if you're dishonest or delusional, but frankly I'm not interested in carrying on a conversation like this with someone as radically far left as you seem to be.

How sweet of you. You almost make it seem like your inability to answer basic questions or provide evidence for your strange assertions are somehow my fault, and indeed that your cowardice and inability to admit your mistakes are a point of virtue, rather than you running away, scared, afraid, and ignorant.

Agree or disagree with him, GabonX answered your questions fairly succinctly and in a couple lines. Instead of rebutting his points or engaging him in conversation you started pounding out the following -

- scared
- afraid
- ignorant
- cute
- "wear the big boy pants"
- coward x 2
- unable x 2

- and it's still only page 1 of the thread! Your replies to GabonX were such bizarre non-sequiturs, in fact, it comes across as if you had a series of insults and ad hominem attacks pre-loaded, ready to cut-and-paste and flood out at whatever unsuspecting poster took the bait and ventured inside.

That's why I thought you were trying to make a speech, rather than trying to start a conversation. Your tone, language choice and style of composition doesn't really fit the template of how rational, even-tempered people initiate discussions, rather the template of how crazy men with wild hair scream about the end of the world on the street corner.

If you are looking for the opportunity to compose op-eds, you may find other outlets more satisfying than a discussion forum which, as the name implies, portends discussion.

[saxitoxin]

Here's a newspaper in Peru looking for submissions. This could be a possible opportunity:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=170042

[Symmetry]

[Agree or disagree with him, GabonX answered your questions fairly succinctly and in a couple lines. Instead of rebutting his points or engaging him in conversation you started pounding out the following -

- scared
- afraid
- ignorant
- cute
- "wear the big boy pants"
- coward x 2
- unable x 2

- and it's still only page 1 of the thread! Your replies to GabonX were such bizarre non-sequiturs, in fact, it comes across as if you had a series of insults and ad hominem attacks pre-loaded, ready to cut-and-paste and flood out at whatever unsuspecting poster took the bait and ventured inside.

That's why I thought you were trying to make a speech, rather than trying to start a conversation. Your tone, language choice and style of composition doesn't really fit the template of how people initiate discussions, rather the template of how crazy men with wild hair scream about the end of the world on the street corner.

If you are looking for the opportunity to compose op-eds, you may find other outlets more satisfying than a discussion forum which, as the name implies, portends discussion.

So, getting back on topic, what's your take on Romney kicking out homosexuals from his campaign?

[saxitoxin]

[Agree or disagree with him, GabonX answered your questions fairly succinctly and in a couple lines. Instead of rebutting his points or engaging him in conversation you started pounding out the following -

- scared
- afraid
- ignorant
- cute
- "wear the big boy pants"
- coward x 2
- unable x 2

- and it's still only page 1 of the thread! Your replies to GabonX were such bizarre non-sequiturs, in fact, it comes across as if you had a series of insults and ad hominem attacks pre-loaded, ready to cut-and-paste and flood out at whatever unsuspecting poster took the bait and ventured inside.

That's why I thought you were trying to make a speech, rather than trying to start a conversation. Your tone, language choice and style of composition doesn't really fit the template of how people initiate discussions, rather the template of how crazy men with wild hair scream about the end of the world on the street corner.

If you are looking for the opportunity to compose op-eds, you may find other outlets more satisfying than a discussion forum which, as the name implies, portends discussion.

So, getting back on topic, what's your take on Romney kicking out homosexuals from his campaign?

Why don't you save me the trouble of typing a response and just go ahead and post the rant you have primed to go?

[Phatscotty]

I'm sure Romney is going to take a HUGE pounding for this...

[Phatscotty]

condemned from everyone but the far right.

That's a bit of a stretch, as is your dishonest title.

He learned it from watching the Pimp-Father

[saxitoxin]

condemned from everyone but the far right.

That's a bit of a stretch, as is your dishonest title.

He learned it from watching the Pimp-Father

[Symmetry]

The idea that simply being gay disqualifies a person from a conservative position is just wrong. Conservatism shoukd primarily concern issues of governance, fiscal responsibility, and responsibility. Romney, in firing this man, or if your prefer, forcing him to resign, has caved to far-right influences.

The man had no say over over issues that conservatives find controversial concerning gay rights- his prerogative was foreign policy.By all accounts he was good at his job, and solidly conservative. He was kicked out because he was gay.

How's that?

[GabonX]

I've said what I have to say and I'm not playing this game where everything leads to irrelevant questions that only serve to divert attention from the original point, that being that you lied by saying this guy was "forced out" of the Romney campaign for being gay when in fact senior campaign officials pleaded with him to stay and went as far as to seek council from another openly gay Republican party member.


Let this thread be a reminder to all honest and true minded people that the foundations of the radical left's strategy are diversion, disinformation and defamation of character.

[saxitoxin]

The idea that simply being gay disqualifies a person from a conservative position is just wrong. Conservatism shoukd primarily concern issues of governance, fiscal responsibility, and responsibility. Romney, in firing this man, or if your prefer, forcing him to resign, has caved to far-right influences.

The man had no say over over issues that conservatives find controversial concerning gay rights- his prerogative was foreign policy.By all accounts he was good at his job, and solidly conservative. He was kicked out because he was gay.

How's that?

Like I said, I think you've never failed to impress us all with your ability to hold very detailed conversations with yourself.

If it helps your imaginative process to pretend various people are participating on the other side of the discussion, go for it! If you'd like to make a cardboard cutout of me to put in your foyer and enhance the experience I have no problem with that either and I'm sure neither would Gabby! Have fun today, Symm, this sounds like a fun little project for you.