Skyrim Mafia Endgame: Hail Sithis! (3/18) Skyrim Wins!

[dazza2008]

So because I don't know anything about the game or whether it is better played on PC or one of the consoles I must be scum?

I still don't see what I did wrong. Everyone here knows I have not played the game so I can't join in the discussion. I can play mafia so when we get to that it will be fine.

I see all the talk of flavour and the PC/console debate as a great way for scum to appear active while really contributing f*ck all to the game.

@CLEVER. Oh I see now what you mean. Sorry I think i misunderstood you to start with.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

So because I don't know anything about the game or whether it is better played on PC or one of the consoles I must be scum?

I still don't see what I did wrong. Everyone here knows I have not played the game so I can't join in the discussion. I can play mafia so when we get to that it will be fine.

I see all the talk of flavour and the PC/console debate as a great way for scum to appear active while really contributing f*ck all to the game.

@CLEVER. Oh I see now what you mean. Sorry I think i misunderstood you to start with.

lol i figured.

[XenHu]

So because I don't know anything about the game or whether it is better played on PC or one of the consoles I must be scum?

That's not what I said, at all. Not even close.

I still don't see what I did wrong. Everyone here knows I have not played the game so I can't join in the discussion. I can play mafia so when we get to that it will be fine. I see all the talk of flavour and the PC/console debate as a great way for scum to appear active while really contributing f*ck all to the game.

Bullshit. I know nothing about the setting, I still find something to talk about. I don't know where this idea came from that this wasn't part of the game, but it's ridiculous. As I mentioned earlier, welcome to Day 1. This is part of the game! You can't just sit around and wait for tells and what-have-you, and not expect to get raked over the coals for it. It just doesn't work like that. At least, it never used to.


Unvote, Vote: Dazza

I'm not confident in your reading comprehension, or indeed, your ability to play the game. If it's this bad this early in the game, I'm not sure I want you around when it can get innocent people lynched.

I don't believe you have a VT role, and if you do, that's a really terrible way of convincing people. I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is. If you turn out to be scum, wonderful. If not, well, it will put us down by one townie, but you've brought this on yourself.

-X

[jonty125]

Unvote, Vote serious game starting by tomorrow.

Seriously guys, we need to get heading in some sort of direction sooner or later, and two weeks is not that long to figure things out.

And what direction do you propose we go in exactly? I'm not quite sure what you expect. It's Day 1. It's pretty much the only day in the game where everyone is blatantly bullshitting, because there isn't anything else to do. Killing time by talking about PC vs Console is out, clearly.

Which is a shame, because I can't think of a better way to kill two weeks. ;p

My vote stands....

Why are you quoting this now? I have decide I will play since this and I am here.

I was right though as all the talk is of what is better PC or console. I don't care so I just skimmed everything.

Hopefully soon we will play mafia.

..unless this guy keeps ghosting through the game like this. Look, I don't care if you like the discussion at hand or not. Even stopping in to say 'hey, cut the crap' would be better than what you're doing right now. When I see this, it makes me think of scum.

FOS: Dazza

Your response will determine if you get my vote. I would encourage others to consider this as well.


-X

If anything I would assume dazza has a shitty boring VT role since he wanted to quit. Don't see him jumping ship being mafia godfather.

unvote vote cowboyz, it seems like he's protecting mafia GF and skimming (dazza never said he wanted to quit).

[nagerous]

Unvote, Vote serious game starting by tomorrow.

Seriously guys, we need to get heading in some sort of direction sooner or later, and two weeks is not that long to figure things out.

Sounds like over-zealous scum to me.


In regards to the accusations on dazza, in all fairness he was being a whiner before the game even began so I don't necessarily think his moaning is role related and I think it would be a stretch to vote him based on this.

[Leehar]

Can I drop out please? I wanted to play but I think this will be one of these games where everyone is talking about flavour and I get lost and bored and not have fun.

Sorry.

...uhhhh,....hmmmmm....

Why are you quoting this now? I have decide I will play since this and I am here.

I was right though as all the talk is of what is better PC or console. I don't care so I just skimmed everything.

Hopefully soon we will play mafia.

Vote Dazza for being a wet blanket.

FoS pcm for being contradictory

[dazza2008]

Can I drop out please? I wanted to play but I think this will be one of these games where everyone is talking about flavour and I get lost and bored and not have fun.

Sorry.

...uhhhh,....hmmmmm....

Why are you quoting this now? I have decide I will play since this and I am here.

I was right though as all the talk is of what is better PC or console. I don't care so I just skimmed everything.

Hopefully soon we will play mafia.

Vote Dazza for being a wet blanket.

FoS pcm for being contradictory

FOS Leehar.

At least XenHu gives a reason for his vote. You give nothing. No reason why you possibly think I am scum.

XenHu, I still don't know what you wanted me to talk about early on. It was talk about the game, the debate on PC Vs. console(both of which I can't join in with as I don't know anything about it) and you talking about the differences in how mafia was played before when you used to play. I was not playing then and have never left for any period since my first game.

So all I was saying is hopefully the game starts properly soon and I can get stuck in. I could post a load of fluff like others but what's the point really?

[Leehar]

Seriously dazza? You're now gonna go with a blatant omgus?

[dazza2008]

Seriously dazza? You're now gonna go with a blatant omgus?

Is that an OMGUS? Really? I never voted you and I won't it just seemed like things were getting more serious and you gave a pathetic reason to vote me. If it was still a joke vote it makes sense. Otherwise you are just jumping on a bandwagon with no reason.

Also I thought OMGUS was for when you just vote someone who voted you, I never voted but even if I did I had reasons to.

[edocsil]

Seriously dazza? You're now gonna go with a blatant omgus?

That isn't OMGUS, strike against you there Leehar.

[pancakemix]

It might be considered OMGUS in a very vague sense of the word (I'd disagree that absolutely has to be a vote). Regardless, I think dazza's FOS is justified here.

FoS pcm for being contradictory

What, what'd I do?

[cowboyz]

Unvote, Vote serious game starting by tomorrow.

Seriously guys, we need to get heading in some sort of direction sooner or later, and two weeks is not that long to figure things out.

And what direction do you propose we go in exactly? I'm not quite sure what you expect. It's Day 1. It's pretty much the only day in the game where everyone is blatantly bullshitting, because there isn't anything else to do. Killing time by talking about PC vs Console is out, clearly.

Which is a shame, because I can't think of a better way to kill two weeks. ;p

My vote stands....

Why are you quoting this now? I have decide I will play since this and I am here.

I was right though as all the talk is of what is better PC or console. I don't care so I just skimmed everything.

Hopefully soon we will play mafia.

..unless this guy keeps ghosting through the game like this. Look, I don't care if you like the discussion at hand or not. Even stopping in to say 'hey, cut the crap' would be better than what you're doing right now. When I see this, it makes me think of scum.

FOS: Dazza

Your response will determine if you get my vote. I would encourage others to consider this as well.


-X

If anything I would assume dazza has a shitty boring VT role since he wanted to quit. Don't see him jumping ship being mafia godfather.

unvote vote cowboyz, it seems like he's protecting mafia GF and skimming (dazza never said he wanted to quit).

Yea I really didn't feel like going through all the PC vs xbox mod dragonfire nerd rage so I just went off what someone else quoted. Dazza did say that before we got our roles. I was just going off what Xenhu said, using that as FOS Dazza. I assumed Xenhu had common sense. I was wrong. Either way, Im sure we have more inactive than Dazza, too lazy to count em up atm but I will eventually.


Now, onto the best part, wait for it...

unvote vote cowboyz, it seems like he's protecting mafia GF and skimming (dazza never said he wanted to quit).

Can I drop out please? I wanted to play but I think this will be one of these games where everyone is talking about flavour and I get lost and bored and not have fun.

Sorry.

Who's skimming now?

Skimming does not = mafia. Just = boring day 1 nonsense. True it is better if everyone is 100% in the game and paying attention to every little detail but again, day 1

[jak111]

Vote Cowboyz (FIRST SERIOUS VOTE OF THE DAY) because he mentions pressuring inactives while being generally inactive himself. So this seems a bit hypocritical. He then goes on to say he's too lazy to check.. It's a 13 page game so far mate, with even LESS when you go to where it started yet.

YAY, things getting serious when I said I wanted them to ~Feels special~

[pancakemix]

Vote Cowboyz (FIRST SERIOUS VOTE OF THE DAY) because he mentions pressuring inactives while being generally inactive himself. So this seems a bit hypocritical. He then goes on to say he's too lazy to check.. It's a 13 page game so far mate, with even LESS when you go to where it started yet.

YAY, things getting serious when I said I wanted them to ~Feels special~

Ehm, no he isn't? He jus said he didn't want to bother with the nerdtalk. I don't think it's fair to call that inactivity. By that argument, you ought to be voting dazza. Sounds to me like you're trying to justify a bandwagon vote.

Unvote Vote Jak

[jak111]

Vote Cowboyz (FIRST SERIOUS VOTE OF THE DAY) because he mentions pressuring inactives while being generally inactive himself. So this seems a bit hypocritical. He then goes on to say he's too lazy to check.. It's a 13 page game so far mate, with even LESS when you go to where it started yet.

YAY, things getting serious when I said I wanted them to ~Feels special~

Ehm, no he isn't? He jus said he didn't want to bother with the nerdtalk. I don't think it's fair to call that inactivity. By that argument, you ought to be voting dazza. Sounds to me like you're trying to justify a bandwagon vote.

Unvote Vote Jak

The same could be said for you "Justify a bandwagon vote", though what I said, whether you believe it or not, is 100% true reason. It's early on in D1 and he calls people out for inactivity when he hasn't been that active himself. So either a.) He's a hypocrite or b.) He's a hypocrite. Whether it be for inactivity or "Not wanting to bother with the nerdtalk" Dazza has said he understands nothing of it, that's why he's not bothering with the talk too much. Prove me wrong and I'll withdrawl my vote from Cowboyz.

[Leehar]

It might be considered OMGUS in a very vague sense of the word (I'd disagree that absolutely has to be a vote). Regardless, I think dazza's FOS is justified here.

Pretty much, he only fos'd me because he didn't want to be called out on omgus by voting and I doubt his reasoning for fos'ing me was much beyond an omgus. (If there was a reason for it beyond me voting for him, I'll eat my hat, cause you can't get something more blatant other than being shot in the face)

FoS pcm for being contradictory

What, what'd I do?[/quote]

Hey, beats the typical D1 essays.


Still, so hard to resist hanging one of the dirty console peasants.



Bandwagon the dirty peasants GoGoGo!

Meh, buy my a good gaming pc and I'll try it, otherwise no. You can't play with multiple people in the same house (unless you have a lot of spare pc's and copies of the game) unless you have a console

Did you know that there is a thing called controller for pc...
Ironic considering xbox is only a derivative of pc anyway

1. Mouse and keyboard is generally considered superior.
2. PC games don't usually have splitscreen modes. Console ports have those developed later.

You first support the pc and then you don't?!


And yes Dazza, my vote was somewhat a joke-vote on you. Somewhat because even though it was made in the spirit of a jokevote, there was still some irritation behind it.
I had fun arguing about flavour or ot stuff in the jokevote stage, and you were essentially being a wet blanket with all your whining about "Oh I don't want to get involved, all this is beneath me bla bla bla".
It's the reality of the game, deal with it.
We all don't like the point of this stage, but we're not gonna get something outta nothing, so we have to start from somewhere. If you can't handle it, then I agree you're in the wrong place.

[cowboyz]

Vote Cowboyz (FIRST SERIOUS VOTE OF THE DAY) because he mentions pressuring inactives while being generally inactive himself. So this seems a bit hypocritical. He then goes on to say he's too lazy to check.. It's a 13 page game so far mate, with even LESS when you go to where it started yet.

YAY, things getting serious when I said I wanted them to ~Feels special~

Ehm, no he isn't? He jus said he didn't want to bother with the nerdtalk. I don't think it's fair to call that inactivity. By that argument, you ought to be voting dazza. Sounds to me like you're trying to justify a bandwagon vote.

Unvote Vote Jak

The same could be said for you "Justify a bandwagon vote", though what I said, whether you believe it or not, is 100% true reason. It's early on in D1 and he calls people out for inactivity when he hasn't been that active himself. So either a.) He's a hypocrite or b.) He's a hypocrite. Whether it be for inactivity or "Not wanting to bother with the nerdtalk" Dazza has said he understands nothing of it, that's why he's not bothering with the talk too much. Prove me wrong and I'll withdrawl my vote from Cowboyz.

I'm not trying to make a case on the inactives. I was basically pointing out that if we are going after people for not contributing, there would be better choices than Dazza at this point in time.

And since I said I would:
People that haven't even thrown out a joke vote as of last vote count
IB(made comment)
jrl33
crazy
kager

[kageryuu]

Vote Iron Butterfly because he has only posted twice since this game started (after confirm post), and he hasn't been voted for yet

[Iron Butterfly]

I don't joke like joke votes anymore. The novelty has worn off.

I am a believer of letting the game evolve organically. I have no fear that the game will peter out due to lack of discussion. At this point it is what it is.

Trust me when I say that when I believe something is important I will comment.

[pancakemix]

You first support the pc and then you don't?

Never said one way or the other, did I?

I don't joke like joke votes anymore. The novelty has worn off.

I am a believer of letting the game evolve organically. I have no fear that the game will peter out due to lack of discussion. At this point it is what it is.

Trust me when I say that when I believe something is important I will comment.

Then I hope to hear from you soon, as things are starting to develop to my eye.

[kageryuu]

I don't joke like joke votes anymore. The novelty has worn off.

I am a believer of letting the game evolve organically. I have no fear that the game will peter out due to lack of discussion. At this point it is what it is.

Trust me when I say that when I believe something is important I will comment.

well, I guess I shall remove my joke vote, and save my vote until i see/read something that warrants a serious vote, so for now Unvote

[XenHu]

Yea I really didn't feel like going through all the PC vs xbox mod dragonfire nerd rage so I just went off what someone else quoted. Dazza did say that before we got our roles. I was just going off what Xenhu said, using that as FOS Dazza. I assumed Xenhu had common sense. I was wrong.

So, wait a minute. You read what I wrote, and then FOS Dazza based on an assumption that you made:

If anything I would assume dazza has a shitty boring VT role since he wanted to quit. Don't see him jumping ship being mafia godfather.

....and when someone points out to you that your assumption was based on false evidence, somehow it becomes my fault?

RIght on.

Considering I had written up a pretty good explaination for my vote, for you to just piggyback off of me(not even my vote explaination at that, you went off of my reasons for an FOS) and then try to throw me under the bus when you get called out for not paying attention is pretty brazen.

Now, on to the subject of Dazza.

Dazza, I have read your response to my vote. Here's the problem I am having right now. Mafia, as a game, often brings player's reputation into question, when considering when to vote, how to judge tells and what-have-you. The problem is, outside of a few, most of the players here are new to me, thus, I do not know what your past behaviour is like in other games. All I have to go on is what I see here. Yes, there are inactive players, as has been stated. That, I believe, is another issue which is making it difficult for me to judge your case. But here's the rub: Someone gets called out as inactive and we either get something like this:

I don't joke like joke votes anymore. The novelty has worn off.

I am a believer of letting the game evolve organically. I have no fear that the game will peter out due to lack of discussion. At this point it is what it is.

Trust me when I say that when I believe something is important I will comment.

Or we don't hear anything from a particular player, in which case they are truly inactive(and should be prodded, IMO). The problem with the above quote, and indeed, your response Dazza, is that, if we all took your stance, we wouldn't have a game at all. You have to spend a portion of Day 1 chewing the fat. Or there won't be a game to play at all. And often a good way to judge people early on is to see who hops in right away and starts talking crap in Day 1, and those that decide to sit around until a bunch of slip-ups have been made. Then they make one or two posts about how they think so-and-so is scum, vote, then shirk off until they can repeat the process later. Hell, you can even quote me as saying:

0_0

Two weeks of day one? Sweet Christ!

-X

Ugh, I forgot about this. Probably my least favorite part of the game.

Oh, what the hell. I have absolutely no knowledge of the setting whatsoever, but you can go ahead and throw my name into the hat.

Let''s see if this old crow has any fight left in him.

-X

I also can't stand Day 1, and I also don't have any knowledge of the theme. Yet, here I am, still posting. That's the point.
Anyways, I've gone on long enough.

Unvote
FOS: Cowboyz, Dazza, Jak

Dazza, you are off the hook in my eyes, for now at least. I'll have to wait and see what Day 2 brings. Whoever's corpse we find the next day will greatly influence my opinion of a few people, if indeed I am not killed in the night myself. Jak, earlier, it sounded like you were rushing everyone for a quick-lynch, and then, when the votes started flying you seem to just add your tally to the name that's highest. You are also defending Dazza's earlier lack of participation with:

The same could be said for you "Justify a bandwagon vote", though what I said, whether you believe it or not, is 100% true reason. It's early on in D1 and he calls people out for inactivity when he hasn't been that active himself. So either a.) He's a hypocrite or b.) He's a hypocrite. Whether it be for inactivity or "Not wanting to bother with the nerdtalk" Dazza has said he understands nothing of it, that's why he's not bothering with the talk too much. Prove me wrong and I'll withdrawl my vote from Cowboyz.

Lacking the knowledge of a theme has nothing to do with Day 1 activity and can not be used as a scapegoat!. Case in point: Look up MountainLion's The Departed mafia game(It's in the archives, no I will not link it). I had(at the time), ZERO knowledge of the theme. And I was just as active then as I am now.

Now, it's late. I just got home from work and will have to work again early in the morning. I need some time to think about where my vote is going to go.

-X

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Vote Cowboyz (FIRST SERIOUS VOTE OF THE DAY) because he mentions pressuring inactives while being generally inactive himself. So this seems a bit hypocritical. He then goes on to say he's too lazy to check.. It's a 13 page game so far mate, with even LESS when you go to where it started yet.

YAY, things getting serious when I said I wanted them to ~Feels special~

Ehm, no he isn't? He jus said he didn't want to bother with the nerdtalk. I don't think it's fair to call that inactivity. By that argument, you ought to be voting dazza. Sounds to me like you're trying to justify a bandwagon vote.

Unvote Vote Jak

What? how is it a bandwagon vote? Only jonty (and edoc's joke) is on him besides jak in an 18 player game! Overreaction + "you should be voting x instead of x" redirection post, very conspicuous unvote vote Pancake

Dazza did say that before we got our roles. I was just going off what Xenhu said, using that as FOS Dazza. I assumed Xenhu had common sense. I was wrong. Either way, Im sure we have more inactive than Dazza, too lazy to count em up atm but I will eventually.

Why do I sometimes feel like I am the only one able to read English on this forum? Xenhu's FOS had jack squat about weather or not dazza wanted to quit, he was calling him out because he said

I don't care so I just skimmed everything.

as does everyone else apparently

Fastposted by xenhu, "votes started flying" where are votes "flying"? it takes freaking 10 people to lynch and there are like four people with serious votes! On different people no less! are you just trying to sound popular by mentioning pancake's imaginary bandwagon?
I don't like it if he's defending dazza though, I personally interpreted it differently when I read it, but we'll have to hear his own defense for that.

I think I may as well start posting in the Dragon Language...

[jonty125]

unvote vote cowboyz, it seems like he's protecting mafia GF and skimming (dazza never said he wanted to quit).

Can I drop out please? I wanted to play but I think this will be one of these games where everyone is talking about flavour and I get lost and bored and not have fun.

Sorry.

Who's skimming now?

Skimming does not = mafia. Just = boring day 1 nonsense. True it is better if everyone is 100% in the game and paying attention to every little detail but again, day 1

The dazza quote was in signups.

[kageryuu]

I think I may as well start posting in the Dragon Language...

unfortunately the forum doesn't support dragon script, so I had to do it the roundabout way