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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby new guy1 on Mon May 07, 2012 8:38 pm

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new guy1 wrote:Yep. I got the part where it was a stupid decision to post that from edoc, you really didnt need to go into detail on it. And yep, Im sure now that you posted how mafia could just play this like a violin thats exactly what they will do. Thanks for pointing it out to everyone.

fastposted- I dont know, he just seems to be pressured first pretty much every game I play with him.


Screw it, he isn't scum. I'm calling meta on this one, I don't think he intended as much WIFOM as I elaborated. I have played enough with him that I think I can say he isn't there yet. Unvote
It was just a bad move, and one that is unlikely to be repeated.


meta gaming would tell you that I make many mistakes, as I have trouble finding the right words to say how I feel without being interrogated every time I post. I have become quite apathetic to the scrutiny of those who pick apart my words and try to find what I mean when its right there in front of them. People on this site think that when someone says we instead of town is a scum slip, so who knows what can happen when I use big words :lol: .
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby / on Mon May 07, 2012 9:02 pm

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new guy1 wrote:Yep. I got the part where it was a stupid decision to post that from edoc, you really didnt need to go into detail on it. And yep, Im sure now that you posted how mafia could just play this like a violin thats exactly what they will do. Thanks for pointing it out to everyone.

fastposted- I dont know, he just seems to be pressured first pretty much every game I play with him.


Screw it, he isn't scum. I'm calling meta on this one, I don't think he intended as much WIFOM as I elaborated. I have played enough with him that I think I can say he isn't there yet. Unvote
It was just a bad move, and one that is unlikely to be repeated.

Well, that's an assured jump to make, a cleared townie huh? Happen to have a list that would make you think that by process of elimination? :lol:
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby new guy1 on Mon May 07, 2012 9:03 pm

/ wrote:
edocsil wrote:
new guy1 wrote:Yep. I got the part where it was a stupid decision to post that from edoc, you really didnt need to go into detail on it. And yep, Im sure now that you posted how mafia could just play this like a violin thats exactly what they will do. Thanks for pointing it out to everyone.

fastposted- I dont know, he just seems to be pressured first pretty much every game I play with him.


Screw it, he isn't scum. I'm calling meta on this one, I don't think he intended as much WIFOM as I elaborated. I have played enough with him that I think I can say he isn't there yet. Unvote
It was just a bad move, and one that is unlikely to be repeated.

Well, that's an assured jump to make, a cleared townie huh? Happen to have a list that would make you think that by process of elimination? :lol:


Eh, hes going off of meta gaming. Hes not jumping to my defense, hes just saying I have persuaded him otherwise which last I checked is not curbing anyone else's interest, just his.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby edocsil on Mon May 07, 2012 9:06 pm

/ wrote:
edocsil wrote:
new guy1 wrote:Yep. I got the part where it was a stupid decision to post that from edoc, you really didnt need to go into detail on it. And yep, Im sure now that you posted how mafia could just play this like a violin thats exactly what they will do. Thanks for pointing it out to everyone.

fastposted- I dont know, he just seems to be pressured first pretty much every game I play with him.


Screw it, he isn't scum. I'm calling meta on this one, I don't think he intended as much WIFOM as I elaborated. I have played enough with him that I think I can say he isn't there yet. Unvote
It was just a bad move, and one that is unlikely to be repeated.

Well, that's an assured jump to make, a cleared townie huh? Happen to have a list that would make you think that by process of elimination? :lol:

Yeah, I realize what I'm gambling here both if I'm wrong and if I'm right. Still, I always think its best to say what you mean rather then to twist and dodge to avoid any scum connotations to you moves.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby new guy1 on Mon May 07, 2012 9:12 pm

Yea, but dont tell the people here, they might find some deep meaning to life if you try to do that :D.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby kageryuu on Mon May 07, 2012 9:38 pm

everywhere116 wrote:Soundman replaced jrl333


Welcome to Skyrim sound, nice to see that jrl is now officially replaced, just mind the giants, they don't appreciate people hunting their mammoths :lol: unless of course you're Dovahkiin, giants would be nothing to you then
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby everywhere116 on Mon May 07, 2012 10:04 pm

Vote Count 4

Clever: 2 (new guy)
jak: 4 (cowboyz, pancake, ghost, jonty)
new guy: 1 (dazza)
kager: 1 (nagerous)
cowboyz: 1 (jak)
jonty: 1 (clever)
edocsil: 1 (/)
Not Voting: 8 (Leehar, edocsil, IB, LSU, Xenhu, sound, CMS, kager)


With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline midnight May 15th going on 16th.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby kageryuu on Mon May 07, 2012 10:19 pm

everywhere116 wrote:jak: 4 (cowboyz, pancake, ghost, jonty)

To BW or not to BW that is the question
everywhere116 wrote:Deadline midnight May 15th going on 16th.

although with this much time left, there is no reason for me to jump on a BW at this time
however hopefully within the next few days, we see someone slip-up and give us a reason to vote.
for now I shall hold onto my vote, and we shall see how the playing field turns out
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby cowboyz on Mon May 07, 2012 11:09 pm

Few thoughts:
My vote on jak was a jokevote but I'll leave it on him for the moment.
Don't think much of what's going on with NG1, I'm still looking deeply into his posts to see if I can find any meaning to life.
WTF is dragonscript?

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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby new guy1 on Mon May 07, 2012 11:17 pm

cowboyz wrote:Few thoughts:
My vote on jak was a jokevote but I'll leave it on him for the moment.
Don't think much of what's going on with NG1, I'm still looking deeply into his posts to see if I can find any meaning to life.
WTF is dragonscript?



I lol'ed when I read the 2nd line :P. Gotta look harder dude!
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby edocsil on Tue May 08, 2012 12:11 am

cowboyz wrote:Few thoughts:
My vote on jak was a jokevote but I'll leave it on him for the moment.
Don't think much of what's going on with NG1, I'm still looking deeply into his posts to see if I can find any meaning to life.
WTF is dragonscript?



Theme games are better when you actually know the theme ya know :| Or you know, you could google it.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby kageryuu on Tue May 08, 2012 7:33 am

cowboyz wrote:Few thoughts:
My vote on jak was a jokevote but I'll leave it on him for the moment.
Don't think much of what's going on with NG1, I'm still looking deeply into his posts to see if I can find any meaning to life.
WTF is dragonscript?


Dragon script is the written form of the language of dragons in Skyrim, The spoken form of Dragon language is used by the player in the form of a Thu'um, or a shout, having various effects, such as Unrelenting Force (equivalent to a starwars force push) which uses the draconic words in sequence: Fus(Force), Ro(Balance), Dah(Push)

heres the wiki page showing the dragon alphabet http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Alphabet
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Tue May 08, 2012 9:19 am

hey guys just read up and i can agree new guy made a mistake but couldnt it be fixed if we just all claim non vt roles?this is a joke!!
i think since its such a short day im gonna go ahead and read from joke vote stage and see if anything comes up...i doubt it though since its just out of joke voting.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby jonty125 on Tue May 08, 2012 9:45 am

Not sure what to think of Newguy's soft claim, a lot of WIFOM. So I'll see if I can find something else before newguy is my #1 priority.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby new guy1 on Tue May 08, 2012 5:02 pm

jonty125 wrote:Not sure what to think of Newguy's soft claim, a lot of WIFOM. So I'll see if I can find something else before newguy is my #1 priority.


As a matter of fact, I didnt even take notice of it, I was just giving inside information. I also said that its not nessesarily true in this case as it could be a trick. Said that 2 times beforeI believe?
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby nagerous on Tue May 08, 2012 5:06 pm

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jonty125 wrote:Not sure what to think of Newguy's soft claim, a lot of WIFOM. So I'll see if I can find something else before newguy is my #1 priority.


As a matter of fact, I didnt even take notice of it, I was just giving inside information. I also said that its not nessesarily true in this case as it could be a trick. Said that 2 times beforeI believe?


Very un-necessary, what can you achieve from tricking the town that you are not a VT? Also, draws doctor protection away from those that it may be more valuably used on.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby new guy1 on Tue May 08, 2012 5:13 pm

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jonty125 wrote:Not sure what to think of Newguy's soft claim, a lot of WIFOM. So I'll see if I can find something else before newguy is my #1 priority.


As a matter of fact, I didnt even take notice of it, I was just giving inside information. I also said that its not nessesarily true in this case as it could be a trick. Said that 2 times beforeI believe?


Very un-necessary, what can you achieve from tricking the town that you are not a VT? Also, draws doctor protection away from those that it may be more valuably used on.


Never asked for doc protection and why would a doc protect me after I made such a stupid mistake? What makes you think I am the best candidate for protection just cause I soft claimed. People dont get near this much shit when they softclaim a ROLE, and yet I just say Im not VT and all of a sudden everybody's panties are in a knot? Come on people, if you think its that great of a case pressure me, but you cant really find another case when all your doing is talking about whether or not you want to pressure me. Some of you rather experienced people seem to be acting rather nieve if you ask me. No Im not pointing fingers, before anyone says that, its just my statement in this whole rant.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby nagerous on Tue May 08, 2012 5:23 pm

I am just trying to figure out what your motivation would be for a soft claim..
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby new guy1 on Tue May 08, 2012 6:26 pm

nagerous wrote:I am just trying to figure out what your motivation would be for a soft claim..


It was giving backstory on my playstyles explaining why I was being innactive. I didnt even think of it being a softclaim until someone pointed it out.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Tue May 08, 2012 6:34 pm

new guy1 wrote:
nagerous wrote:
new guy1 wrote:
jonty125 wrote:Not sure what to think of Newguy's soft claim, a lot of WIFOM. So I'll see if I can find something else before newguy is my #1 priority.


As a matter of fact, I didnt even take notice of it, I was just giving inside information. I also said that its not nessesarily true in this case as it could be a trick. Said that 2 times beforeI believe?


Very un-necessary, what can you achieve from tricking the town that you are not a VT? Also, draws doctor protection away from those that it may be more valuably used on.


Never asked for doc protection and why would a doc protect me after I made such a stupid mistake? What makes you think I am the best candidate for protection just cause I soft claimed. People dont get near this much shit when they softclaim a ROLE, and yet I just say Im not VT and all of a sudden everybody's panties are in a knot? Come on people, if you think its that great of a case pressure me, but you cant really find another case when all your doing is talking about whether or not you want to pressure me. Some of you rather experienced people seem to be acting rather nieve if you ask me. No Im not pointing fingers, before anyone says that, its just my statement in this whole rant.


i have to agree completly on here.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby edocsil on Tue May 08, 2012 8:13 pm

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:
new guy1 wrote:
nagerous wrote:
new guy1 wrote:
jonty125 wrote:Not sure what to think of Newguy's soft claim, a lot of WIFOM. So I'll see if I can find something else before newguy is my #1 priority.


As a matter of fact, I didnt even take notice of it, I was just giving inside information. I also said that its not nessesarily true in this case as it could be a trick. Said that 2 times beforeI believe?


Very un-necessary, what can you achieve from tricking the town that you are not a VT? Also, draws doctor protection away from those that it may be more valuably used on.


Never asked for doc protection and why would a doc protect me after I made such a stupid mistake? What makes you think I am the best candidate for protection just cause I soft claimed. People dont get near this much shit when they softclaim a ROLE, and yet I just say Im not VT and all of a sudden everybody's panties are in a knot? Come on people, if you think its that great of a case pressure me, but you cant really find another case when all your doing is talking about whether or not you want to pressure me. Some of you rather experienced people seem to be acting rather nieve if you ask me. No Im not pointing fingers, before anyone says that, its just my statement in this whole rant.


i have to agree completely on here.


Soft claims are done under pressure, or for specific reasons. None of that applied here, this would be the same if he softclaimed doc. Well less so, if he was liar he would just be counter claimed. This is just saying, hey by the way I'm a good guy, Honest! Docs on meeee!
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby new guy1 on Tue May 08, 2012 8:20 pm

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nagerous wrote:I am just trying to figure out what your motivation would be for a soft claim..


It was giving backstory on my playstyles explaining why I was being innactive. I didnt even think of it being a softclaim until someone pointed it out.


Just making sure you didnt miss this edoc. Cause its says right up there I didnt mean to, but I did and then I realized I did etc. Also, I dont know your allignment, but thanks for seeing the sense in my posts and (thanks??) for using meta gaming to kinda prove it.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby XenHu on Wed May 09, 2012 1:24 am

Just posting to let you know my Internet has been down for past day. Posting from my phone. Lots to say, will share later.

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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby ghostly447 on Wed May 09, 2012 9:24 am

Well I can see this didnt go anywhere new.

Someone accused me of possibly going against myself I guess through 2 posts. His name is PCM.

pancakemix wrote:
ghostly447 wrote:Oh, this game is finally getting out of the joke stage which it should have about 5 pages ago when everyone was on their knees begging for the pain to stop.

As far as my vote I will not be placing it anywehre yet. To me, the PCM v Jak case seemed more like a Town v Town argument. They both responded pretty well and if anything it is a case that needs to simmer down and have both sides wait for a major slip to bring back the case and hopefully pin them with a stronger bit of evidence. I dont like forcing a claim with weak evidence.

It doesnt sit well with me that Jak admitted he would scim, especially while he is trying to make a case and a argue his point.

As for another case, I will try to find one today when I have more time unless someone can go back and find a stronger one to go off of before I do.


What was this then?

ghostly447 wrote:I dont like hopping on BW's, especially since I just got back, but Jak overall seems to be conveying more of a scummy case. PCM broke it down to the point where it became clear Jak had really no case. The thing that gets me the most is the Jak will now refuse to throw any sort of response at PCM because PCM cant find solid evidence...On D1...But last time I checked, a case proven completely false=....Evidence.

So with that, I will unvote if needed and vote Jak

I hope this is a good enough post. From what I could tell, there wasnt much more I could add that hasnt been said. I just got back and havent been on for about 40-46 hours, so thats all ive got for now! But I plan to get more active.



My explantion you ask?
by ghostly447 on Sat May 05, 2012 11:14 pm
by ghostly447 on Mon May 07, 2012 8:54 am

Post times. And more?

The fact that half the case was fought after the first post.

If you are going to try to show how I changed my mind, provide enough for both sides. unvote
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 1: Diplomatic Immunity (18/18)

Postby soundman on Wed May 09, 2012 11:44 am

Boom. Caught up.

Even with a full read thru I don't have anyone jump out at me as scummy. I think NG1 messed up by claiming non-VT but unless we want to lynch him over it, what's done is done. There's too much WIFOM for us to correctly speculate on what that soft claim will do.
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