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kageryuu wrote:at this point things are looking rather bleak for me, and without some scum slip and a huge turnaround within the next day it appears that my end is near
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
everywhere116 wrote:You da man! Well, not really, because we're colorful ponies, but you get the idea.
edocsil wrote:Oh, and X, Bite me. It was a holiday weekend. The last time I haven't logged in for 72 hours was months ago, mafia is like crack. If I say I am going to be gone, it's because I'm in some remote wilderness with no internet access.
nagerous wrote:Consequently, I am happy to drop the hammer, though in the interests of using all the time available to us for further discussions I can wait til tomorrow evening.
/ wrote:LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Vote Jonty like I said earlier, I don't understand your mindless bandwagoning and I believe the other 2 claims at this point. Having a miller in this game does not make sense if the cop gets "flavor" results. If the cop comes out later and says that he is getting "innocent" or guilty" strictly than it would stand to reason that the miller could be a true claim so for now I'll pass on the miller lynch until the cop announces all his/her results when ready to do so and explain the type of info that the mod is giving them.
Right now I'm not worrying about the different factions that may or may not exist because that is just playing the mod and when people try to play the mod more times than not they get screwed.
I'm surprised that you didn't bring up "best worst case scenario" on kage, he has no abilities (if truthful) and admitted that upon investigation he will come up scum, this should prove interesting come day three. Particularly since you make your very first case of the day near the very end, when we obviously don't have time to follow through yet.
Eh, best not delay tomorrow what I can do today, may as well make the most of our time, just in case...
if kage comes up scum today (obvious result, you may have tried to dissuade from his wagon.)
if kage told the truth, this interestingly enough could also be a scum move, only scum would know scum, and therefor scum would be more inclined to believe a miller, dismiss his wagon, and when lynched have the "I told you so" to say.
shieldgenerator7 wrote:wow night already? I'm not even all caught up yet.
oh well, still can't wait to see how my role affects the night. /)^3^(\
Good night all!
-SG7 ()
everywhere116 wrote:You da man! Well, not really, because we're colorful ponies, but you get the idea.
XenHu wrote:Also, wtf was this:Vote:SG7shieldgenerator7 wrote:wow night already? I'm not even all caught up yet.
oh well, still can't wait to see how my role affects the night. /)^3^(\
Good night all!
-SG7 ()
You've not only provided zero to the game up until this point, you've also done what I consider mod-kill worthy.
-X
XenHu wrote:edocsil wrote:Oh, and X, Bite me. It was a holiday weekend. The last time I haven't logged in for 72 hours was months ago, mafia is like crack. If I say I am going to be gone, it's because I'm in some remote wilderness with no internet access.
It is a legitimate tactic that has been used by other players in the past. Jumping down my throat like that is uncalled for.
Secondly, why did you just storm in and drop the hammer early when it was suggested that we wait?(One of those people is now dead, by the way)
-X
shieldgenerator7 wrote:Well I just got a role I don't get everygame. Is it a bad thing to be excited about it? (@mod, i hope this won't get me modkilled)
I have a question about the night scene. So the Companions are mafia? The name is in red, so I assume so. Does this fit with flavor? I don't know who the antagonists are in this game.
-SG7 ()
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
XenHu wrote:Stormcloaks are likely to be the mafia, would be my guess. The Thalmor will not win immediately after achieving their win condition.
-X
XenHu wrote:Brilliant. Two role claims in one day. The Stormcloaks and Thalmor might as well sleepwalk through this game(and they probably are.)/ wrote:Whilst mindless bandwagons are perhaps unhelpful most of the time, we do only have 3 days left to accomplish something
No, no, no, no, no. This isn't going to fly anymore. It was fine for D1, but even so, look what happened there? In the space of one day and night, we have lost three pro-town. If we ever had a time where we could 'afford' to lose someone, the time has long passed. We've now forced two claims, both of which seem pretty legit.
If you really want to pressure inactives, here's a list:
soundman
Clever
ghostly
edocsil(not inactive, however, just rather timely that he is gone for the entire weekend. Don't like it. It's been used as an excuse by other players in the past.)
new guy(not inactive, but all I've seen him do is show up, start some shit for a page or two, and then leave. And I cannot ignore his 'softclaim' on Day 1. Why was he not killed during the night?)
shieldgenerator(Just showed up now to say he is catching up. We'll see what he brings to the table.)
Honestly, this is one game where I would love to be on the side of the antagonists. I'm calling it now, an easy win for the bad guys if this keeps up. So much potential for submarining between the amount of inactives and the role claims, it's crazy.
-X
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
shieldgenerator7 wrote:I have a question about the night scene. So the Companions are mafia? The name is in red, so I assume so. Does this fit with flavor? I don't know who the antagonists are in this game.
-SG7 ()
crazymilkshake5 wrote:shieldgenerator7 wrote:I have a question about the night scene. So the Companions are mafia? The name is in red, so I assume so. Does this fit with flavor? I don't know who the antagonists are in this game.
-SG7 ()
In game companions are a side quest, not really evil, even though they are werewolves, I would say that they are third party, probably not mafia, which now makes seance why the dovahkiin's name was the same color, and not the same color as skyrim. He could join any faction he wanted, dark brotherhood, thieves guild, mages guild, companions, and even help fight by the Stormcloaks or the Imperials side in the war. The player controlled his "alignment". You could play the game like a goody to shoes, or like the devil.
edocsil wrote:Vote XXenHu wrote:Stormcloaks are likely to be the mafia, would be my guess. The Thalmor will not win immediately after achieving their win condition.
-X
We had a stormcloak miller claimed. If he had truly believed what he had just posted he would have not tried to move the town towards Jonty so late in the day. Moving the lynch target is scummy as well on it's own, as there was no way we would have been able to get any semblance of case, counter, claim and discussion in a mere 3 days. This action also was possibly a failed attempt to reduce pressure on Kager, who flipped scum.
XenHu wrote:Brilliant. Two role claims in one day. The Stormcloaks and Thalmor might as well sleepwalk through this game(and they probably are.)
soundman wrote:crazymilkshake5 wrote:shieldgenerator7 wrote:I have a question about the night scene. So the Companions are mafia? The name is in red, so I assume so. Does this fit with flavor? I don't know who the antagonists are in this game.
-SG7 ()
In game companions are a side quest, not really evil, even though they are werewolves, I would say that they are third party, probably not mafia, which now makes seance why the dovahkiin's name was the same color, and not the same color as skyrim. He could join any faction he wanted, dark brotherhood, thieves guild, mages guild, companions, and even help fight by the Stormcloaks or the Imperials side in the war. The player controlled his "alignment". You could play the game like a goody to shoes, or like the devil.
Here's what I think is going on. I think Everywhere has the Dovahkiin on the 'evil' path. No matter what the player chooses the Thalmor are always 'third party' and the other minor roles are always 'town'. I came into the game thinking that the Dovahkiin would be good but there is no reason for him not to be bad. The Dovahkiin and his crew are Mafia and the Thalmor are Third Party.edocsil wrote:Vote XXenHu wrote:Stormcloaks are likely to be the mafia, would be my guess. The Thalmor will not win immediately after achieving their win condition.
-X
We had a stormcloak miller claimed. If he had truly believed what he had just posted he would have not tried to move the town towards Jonty so late in the day. Moving the lynch target is scummy as well on it's own, as there was no way we would have been able to get any semblance of case, counter, claim and discussion in a mere 3 days. This action also was possibly a failed attempt to reduce pressure on Kager, who flipped scum.
Now that is an interesting find. I completely missed that. Here's what he says right after the claim.XenHu wrote:Brilliant. Two role claims in one day. The Stormcloaks and Thalmor might as well sleepwalk through this game(and they probably are.)
He still thinks the Stormcloaks are the mafia yet he lets the last claim go. I would like to get an explanation out of him. Vote X.
edocsil wrote:Vote XXenHu wrote:Stormcloaks are likely to be the mafia, would be my guess. The Thalmor will not win immediately after achieving their win condition.
-X
We had a stormcloak miller claimed. If he had truly believed what he had just posted he would have not tried to move the town towards Jonty so late in the day. Moving the lynch target is scummy as well on it's own, as there was no way we would have been able to get any semblance of case, counter, claim and discussion in a mere 3 days. This action also was possibly a failed attempt to reduce pressure on Kager, who flipped scum.
Then there is this,XenHu wrote:Brilliant. Two role claims in one day. The Stormcloaks and Thalmor might as well sleepwalk through this game(and they probably are.)/ wrote:Whilst mindless bandwagons are perhaps unhelpful most of the time, we do only have 3 days left to accomplish something
No, no, no, no, no. This isn't going to fly anymore. It was fine for D1, but even so, look what happened there? In the space of one day and night, we have lost three pro-town. If we ever had a time where we could 'afford' to lose someone, the time has long passed. We've now forced two claims, both of which seem pretty legit.
If you really want to pressure inactives, here's a list:
soundman
Clever
ghostly
edocsil(not inactive, however, just rather timely that he is gone for the entire weekend. Don't like it. It's been used as an excuse by other players in the past.)
new guy(not inactive, but all I've seen him do is show up, start some shit for a page or two, and then leave. And I cannot ignore his 'softclaim' on Day 1. Why was he not killed during the night?)
shieldgenerator(Just showed up now to say he is catching up. We'll see what he brings to the table.)
Honestly, this is one game where I would love to be on the side of the antagonists. I'm calling it now, an easy win for the bad guys if this keeps up. So much potential for submarining between the amount of inactives and the role claims, it's crazy.
-X
X is at the same time pushing for talk, discusion and other good things, but then sets it up for someone else (Important!) to try to pressure an inactive with only a few days remaining. This is scummy, and it keeps his hands largely clean.
I quickly went through the thread again. Nothing before page 20 is really worth much, and X is the only guy who (negatively) stands out at me in the last 20 pages. I think this case has merit and is worth pursuing.
new guy1 wrote:I believe that kagerru's claim is fake. My reasoning is because miller is the perfect mafia fakeclaim and also I would expect his character which he claimed to have a different role not the miller role. He is powerful from what I know as he is the magic user for the stormcloaks. He has to be good at what he does to be that high up in the resistance, so therefore I believe his claim would fit the bill as I have done that quest, but its too convenient of a claim. unvote, vote kage.
@X- I probably wasnt killed in the night because the mafia figured I would be watched.
XenHu wrote:Stormcloaks are likely to be the mafia, would be my guess. The Thalmor will not win immediately after achieving their win condition.
jonty125 wrote:XenHu wrote:Also, wtf was this:Vote:SG7shieldgenerator7 wrote:wow night already? I'm not even all caught up yet.
oh well, still can't wait to see how my role affects the night. /)^3^(\
Good night all!
-SG7 ()
You've not only provided zero to the game up until this point, you've also done what I consider mod-kill worthy.
-X
I agree that SG7 has contributed very little; but all he has done is soft-claim a role with a night action - I don't understand what he has done wrong to be worthy of a modkill,
shieldgenerator7 wrote:Hey I haven't forgotten about this game!
I'm catching up (pg 14 so far) it'll be slow but tomorrow I hope to be all caught up. I'll read recent things so is there anything I should be looking for while reading up or should I just take note of general things? thnx
See you later.
-SG7 ()
XenHu wrote:He claimed Stormcloak? Not from what I saw. There was this:new guy1 wrote:I believe that kagerru's claim is fake. My reasoning is because miller is the perfect mafia fakeclaim and also I would expect his character which he claimed to have a different role not the miller role. He is powerful from what I know as he is the magic user for the stormcloaks. He has to be good at what he does to be that high up in the resistance, so therefore I believe his claim would fit the bill as I have done that quest, but its too convenient of a claim. unvote, vote kage.
@X- I probably wasnt killed in the night because the mafia figured I would be watched.
But aside from newguy, no one else mentioned it, so why single me out? Most of you know the lore better than me, having played the game where I have not.
XenHu wrote:Also, y'all were kind enough to miss this:XenHu wrote:Stormcloaks are likely to be the mafia, would be my guess. The Thalmor will not win immediately after achieving their win condition.
That is posted fact. I have been touching on this for awhile, was hoping to not have to come out and say it. It's the same reason why I know and can say with full confidence, that the red characters are NOT baddies. They are Thalmor targets.
XenHu wrote:(And frankly, I was hoping to turn up dead today)
-X
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
aage wrote:Never trust CYOC or pancake.
pancakemix wrote:Not buying the XenHu case. Sure, he could have stabbed in the dark with an inactive, but he didn't. So what? As of right now, I think he's been one of the most pro-town players in this game and this case is tenuous at best.
Can I also point out that Wuunferth is not a Stormcloak, he just works in Windhelm? Thanks...
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
edocsil wrote:pancakemix wrote:Not buying the XenHu case. Sure, he could have stabbed in the dark with an inactive, but he didn't. So what? As of right now, I think he's been one of the most pro-town players in this game and this case is tenuous at best.
Can I also point out that Wuunferth is not a Stormcloak, he just works in Windhelm? Thanks...
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Wuun ... e_Unliving
Make a case then If you don't like this one. I couldn't find anything better. Also, X has more then enough experience to appear pro town no matter his side.
aage wrote:Never trust CYOC or pancake.
edocsil wrote:XenHu wrote:He claimed Stormcloak? Not from what I saw. There was this:new guy1 wrote:I believe that kagerru's claim is fake. My reasoning is because miller is the perfect mafia fakeclaim and also I would expect his character which he claimed to have a different role not the miller role. He is powerful from what I know as he is the magic user for the stormcloaks. He has to be good at what he does to be that high up in the resistance, so therefore I believe his claim would fit the bill as I have done that quest, but its too convenient of a claim. unvote, vote kage.
@X- I probably wasnt killed in the night because the mafia figured I would be watched.
But aside from newguy, no one else mentioned it, so why single me out? Most of you know the lore better than me, having played the game where I have not.
Look it up then. I had to wiki the page as well despite spending many hours on the game. I don't recall every character. If you don't want to play you don't have to.
XenHu wrote:Also, y'all were kind enough to miss this:XenHu wrote:Stormcloaks are likely to be the mafia, would be my guess. The Thalmor will not win immediately after achieving their win condition.
That is posted fact. I have been touching on this for awhile, was hoping to not have to come out and say it. It's the same reason why I know and can say with full confidence, that the red characters are NOT baddies. They are Thalmor targets.
edocsil wrote:Yes, I had reasoned that out as well a while ago. It's not like the Dovahkiin isn't the pro town hero. However, the Thalmor likely knew of these maroon townies before the start of the game, it is their WC in fact.
edocsil wrote:XenHu wrote:(And frankly, I was hoping to turn up dead today)
-X
If you are that critical of a townie resign and let another take your place. Or you know, you could figure out how to play the game as it is now and have fun, but it is up to you.
everywhere116 wrote:My fourth mafia game at CC will be a treat for Elder Scrolls fans: Skyrim Mafia! This game will require 18 players and will not necessarily require a background knowledge of Skyrim to play, although it will be more enjoyable if you do.
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