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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 2: There Is One They Fear (15/18)

Postby kageryuu on Mon May 28, 2012 10:54 pm

at this point things are looking rather bleak for me, and without some scum slip and a huge turnaround within the next day it appears that my end is near
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 2: There Is One They Fear (15/18)

Postby edocsil on Mon May 28, 2012 11:09 pm

kageryuu wrote:at this point things are looking rather bleak for me, and without some scum slip and a huge turnaround within the next day it appears that my end is near


Very.

Unvote Vote Kager

A. Stormcloak.
B. Legion are the good guys, stormcloaks are the (vanquished) enemy.
C. Relatively minor character. Not part of guild quests, only seen if you side Stormcloaks
D. Miller. It's useless, unverifiable and a liability late game. Even if everything that is claimed is true, still better off without. There is a reason it's a bastard role.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 2: There Is One They Fear (15/18)

Postby edocsil on Mon May 28, 2012 11:10 pm

Oh, and X, Bite me. It was a holiday weekend. The last time I haven't logged in for 72 hours was months ago, mafia is like crack. If I say I am going to be gone, it's because I'm in some remote wilderness with no internet access.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 2: There Is One They Fear (15/18)

Postby everywhere116 on Tue May 29, 2012 12:22 am

Final Vote Count

crazy: 1 (edocsil)
kager: 8 (sound, pancake, crazy, clever, /, new guy, jonty, kager) (LYNCH!!)
jonty: 2 (LSU, XenHu)
Not Voting: 5 (nagerous, shield, cowboys, ghostly)

Scene shortly.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Night 2: Ogmund's Revenge (14/18)

Postby everywhere116 on Tue May 29, 2012 12:25 am

Kager had locked himself inside his room inside the Understone Keep. The people of Markarth were after him, working their way through the castle to reach him. Kager desperately finished his letter for his courier:

Ambassador, the people of Markarth are turning against me, and are currently calling for my head. It’s only a matter of time before they get me. The guards are doing little to stop them, and Jarl Igmund doesn’t want to enrage his populace by protecting me. They’re waking up all over Skyrim, milady. We have to accelerate our plans.

ā€œSneak out the back entrance through the Hall of the Dead, courier.ā€ Kager said. ā€œDon’t stop until you reach the Embassy! I’ll stay here. They won’t be looking for you if I die here.ā€

ā€œYes, Justicar.ā€ The courier replied. He opened the trap door in the room and ran to the Hall of the Dead, watching the mob rush up the steps to the Justicar’s quarters.

The mob knocked down the door, and the crowd rushed into the room, facing kager. The guard came forward and said ā€œYou have committed crimes against Skyrim and her people! What say you?ā€ Kager stood there, conjuring a magical sword in his hand and a ward to protect himself.

The guard attacked, and was quickly struck down by kager. Another lunged forward, only to hit kager’s ward and fall over dropping his sword. As kager beant down to finish him, he was struck in the back by a shock attack from Eola. The guard rose up and stabbed kager in the heart. He fell over, dead.

The crowd dispersed, and his guards left the room and signaled Jarl Igmund that it was clear for him to come in. The Jarl and his steward, Raerek, walked over to kager’s quarters.

ā€œI’m still not comfortable with what happened here today. Sure, we barely tolerated their presence here, but the Thalmor are going to learn of this, and they won’t be happy.ā€

ā€œNo, Jarl, they won’t.ā€ Raerek replied. ā€œThe least we can do his bury his body in the Hall, or give him to the Thalmor when they come back.ā€

ā€œFine. We can get his body andā€¦ā€ the Jarl replied, but when they entered the room, his body was nowhere to be found.

kageryuu (Ondolemar, Thalmor Agent) has been lynched!
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Night 2: Ogmund's Revenge (14/18)

Postby soundman on Tue May 29, 2012 12:12 pm

Come back from a holiday weekend and the lynch has already happened.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Night 2: Ogmund's Revenge (14/18)

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Tue May 29, 2012 10:33 pm

wow night already? I'm not even all caught up yet.

oh well, still can't wait to see how my role affects the night. /)^3^(\

Good night all!

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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby everywhere116 on Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:19 am

By daytime the city of Dawnstar had received the news of the death of the Thalmor in Markarth. The city was ecstatic in light of the great victory, and yet still the winds of the next Great War blow, and they know that there will be more casualties.

The guards had brought in two more coffins, two more people that had died over the course of the night They laid them side by side in front of the Jarl’s throne. A crowd had gathered, observing, and trying to gain a glimpse of the two victims. Jarl Brina Merilis looked down at the coffins in front of her. One was of a great warrior, clad in the finest armor and clasping the finest weapons, and the other, a simple, meek mage, and one of Dawnstar’s own. The townspeople recognized her immediately.

ā€œIt’s Madena.ā€ One of them whispered. ā€œMadena died last night.ā€ ā€œWho killled her?ā€ ā€œProbably one of those damn Thalmor?ā€ ā€œReally? What would they want with her?ā€

ā€œPeople of Dawnstar,ā€ Jarl Merilis said, ā€œYes, it appears that our court mage, Madena, has met a tragic end last night. She was invaluable for this city. I pray that she is with the Divines now. She was meek and humble, and we’ll never forget what her. And it seems we have someone else who has died on our doorstep, one of the Companions, a great and powerful warrior. His body will be given to the rest of the Companions in Whiterun. It’s a shame, too. Skyrim will need great warriors like him.ā€

cowboyz (Madena, Skyrim Back-up Doctor) has been killed!
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/ (Vilkas, Companions 2-Shot Vigilante) has been killed!
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 2: There Is One They Fear (15/18)

Postby XenHu on Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:46 am

edocsil wrote:Oh, and X, Bite me. It was a holiday weekend. The last time I haven't logged in for 72 hours was months ago, mafia is like crack. If I say I am going to be gone, it's because I'm in some remote wilderness with no internet access.



It is a legitimate tactic that has been used by other players in the past. Jumping down my throat like that is uncalled for.

Secondly, why did you just storm in and drop the hammer early when it was suggested that we wait?(One of those people is now dead, by the way)

nagerous wrote:Consequently, I am happy to drop the hammer, though in the interests of using all the time available to us for further discussions I can wait til tomorrow evening.


/ wrote:
LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Vote Jonty like I said earlier, I don't understand your mindless bandwagoning and I believe the other 2 claims at this point. Having a miller in this game does not make sense if the cop gets "flavor" results. If the cop comes out later and says that he is getting "innocent" or guilty" strictly than it would stand to reason that the miller could be a true claim so for now I'll pass on the miller lynch until the cop announces all his/her results when ready to do so and explain the type of info that the mod is giving them.

Right now I'm not worrying about the different factions that may or may not exist because that is just playing the mod and when people try to play the mod more times than not they get screwed.

I'm surprised that you didn't bring up "best worst case scenario" on kage, he has no abilities (if truthful) and admitted that upon investigation he will come up scum, this should prove interesting come day three. Particularly since you make your very first case of the day near the very end, when we obviously don't have time to follow through yet.

Eh, best not delay tomorrow what I can do today, may as well make the most of our time, just in case...
if kage comes up scum today (obvious result, you may have tried to dissuade from his wagon.)
if kage told the truth, this interestingly enough could also be a scum move, only scum would know scum, and therefor scum would be more inclined to believe a miller, dismiss his wagon, and when lynched have the "I told you so" to say.



Also, wtf was this:

shieldgenerator7 wrote:wow night already? I'm not even all caught up yet.

oh well, still can't wait to see how my role affects the night. /)^3^(\

Good night all!

-SG7 ( :) )



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You've not only provided zero to the game up until this point, you've also done what I consider mod-kill worthy.


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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:51 am

Well I just got a role I don't get everygame. Is it a bad thing to be excited about it? (@mod, i hope this won't get me modkilled)

I have a question about the night scene. So the Companions are mafia? The name is in red, so I assume so. Does this fit with flavor? I don't know who the antagonists are in this game.

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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 2: There Is One They Fear (15/18)

Postby jonty125 on Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:44 am

XenHu wrote:Also, wtf was this:
shieldgenerator7 wrote:wow night already? I'm not even all caught up yet.

oh well, still can't wait to see how my role affects the night. /)^3^(\

Good night all!

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You've not only provided zero to the game up until this point, you've also done what I consider mod-kill worthy.


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I agree that SG7 has contributed very little; but all he has done is soft-claim a role with a night action - I don't understand what he has done wrong to be worthy of a modkill,
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 2: There Is One They Fear (15/18)

Postby edocsil on Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:46 am

XenHu wrote:
edocsil wrote:Oh, and X, Bite me. It was a holiday weekend. The last time I haven't logged in for 72 hours was months ago, mafia is like crack. If I say I am going to be gone, it's because I'm in some remote wilderness with no internet access.



It is a legitimate tactic that has been used by other players in the past. Jumping down my throat like that is uncalled for.

Secondly, why did you just storm in and drop the hammer early when it was suggested that we wait?(One of those people is now dead, by the way)
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I would view that as cheating. Same as doing it a game of Risk here. I do not care for when people call me a liar on non-game related activity, and a cheat to top it off. I also posted that message in all 5(?) games I was in at the time. So if I am testy, I think it is justified, how ever my intent was not to offend, but to express my disgruntlement.

As far as rushing, I jumped back to page 40, and I saw not people encouraging waiting, but encouraging hammering. I thought he was a liar, I voted, and I was right.

shieldgenerator7 wrote:Well I just got a role I don't get everygame. Is it a bad thing to be excited about it? (@mod, i hope this won't get me modkilled)

I have a question about the night scene. So the Companions are mafia? The name is in red, so I assume so. Does this fit with flavor? I don't know who the antagonists are in this game.

-SG7 ( :) )


A. If the role is good, shutup about it. It isn't worth shit if you get yourself killed.
B. Posting like that AT NIGHT, is borderline modkill territory. It effects the game ffs.
C. Lets guess that team Skyrim in the maroon are not mafia. They are you and your allies in the game.

I have some thoughts for this game, but I want to talk a look at some critical points before making a big old post. I'll have something more to say in a few hours.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby edocsil on Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:22 am

Vote X

XenHu wrote:Stormcloaks are likely to be the mafia, would be my guess. The Thalmor will not win immediately after achieving their win condition.

-X


We had a stormcloak miller claimed. If he had truly believed what he had just posted he would have not tried to move the town towards Jonty so late in the day. Moving the lynch target is scummy as well on it's own, as there was no way we would have been able to get any semblance of case, counter, claim and discussion in a mere 3 days. This action also was possibly a failed attempt to reduce pressure on Kager, who flipped scum.

Then there is this,

XenHu wrote:Brilliant. Two role claims in one day. The Stormcloaks and Thalmor might as well sleepwalk through this game(and they probably are.)

/ wrote:Whilst mindless bandwagons are perhaps unhelpful most of the time, we do only have 3 days left to accomplish something


No, no, no, no, no. This isn't going to fly anymore. It was fine for D1, but even so, look what happened there? In the space of one day and night, we have lost three pro-town. If we ever had a time where we could 'afford' to lose someone, the time has long passed. We've now forced two claims, both of which seem pretty legit.

If you really want to pressure inactives, here's a list:

soundman
Clever
ghostly
edocsil(not inactive, however, just rather timely that he is gone for the entire weekend. Don't like it. It's been used as an excuse by other players in the past.)
new guy(not inactive, but all I've seen him do is show up, start some shit for a page or two, and then leave. And I cannot ignore his 'softclaim' on Day 1. Why was he not killed during the night?)
shieldgenerator(Just showed up now to say he is catching up. We'll see what he brings to the table.)

Honestly, this is one game where I would love to be on the side of the antagonists. I'm calling it now, an easy win for the bad guys if this keeps up. So much potential for submarining between the amount of inactives and the role claims, it's crazy.

-X


X is at the same time pushing for talk, discusion and other good things, but then sets it up for someone else (Important!) to try to pressure an inactive with only a few days remaining. This is scummy, and it keeps his hands largely clean.

I quickly went through the thread again. Nothing before page 20 is really worth much, and X is the only guy who (negatively) stands out at me in the last 20 pages. I think this case has merit and is worth pursuing.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby crazymilkshake5 on Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:04 am

shieldgenerator7 wrote:I have a question about the night scene. So the Companions are mafia? The name is in red, so I assume so. Does this fit with flavor? I don't know who the antagonists are in this game.

-SG7 ( :) )

In game companions are a side quest, not really evil, even though they are werewolves, I would say that they are third party, probably not mafia, which now makes seance why the dovahkiin's name was the same color, and not the same color as skyrim. He could join any faction he wanted, dark brotherhood, thieves guild, mages guild, companions, and even help fight by the Stormcloaks or the Imperials side in the war. The player controlled his "alignment". You could play the game like a goody to shoes, or like the devil. my dad for one had the perk to pickpocket equipted items and went around Whiterun stealing everyone's clothes. so they were running around in their underwear... :shock:

also I have LSU's vote. I decided to try and take some of the inactive's votes, to at least keep their vote in game.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:58 pm

hey everyone just got out of final exams and my school year is over..gonna go hang with friends but will read up when i get back...i have like 4 pages left.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby soundman on Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:01 pm

crazymilkshake5 wrote:
shieldgenerator7 wrote:I have a question about the night scene. So the Companions are mafia? The name is in red, so I assume so. Does this fit with flavor? I don't know who the antagonists are in this game.

-SG7 ( :) )

In game companions are a side quest, not really evil, even though they are werewolves, I would say that they are third party, probably not mafia, which now makes seance why the dovahkiin's name was the same color, and not the same color as skyrim. He could join any faction he wanted, dark brotherhood, thieves guild, mages guild, companions, and even help fight by the Stormcloaks or the Imperials side in the war. The player controlled his "alignment". You could play the game like a goody to shoes, or like the devil.

Here's what I think is going on. I think Everywhere has the Dovahkiin on the 'evil' path. No matter what the player chooses the Thalmor are always 'third party' and the other minor roles are always 'town'. I came into the game thinking that the Dovahkiin would be good but there is no reason for him not to be bad. The Dovahkiin and his crew are Mafia and the Thalmor are Third Party.

edocsil wrote:Vote X

XenHu wrote:Stormcloaks are likely to be the mafia, would be my guess. The Thalmor will not win immediately after achieving their win condition.

-X


We had a stormcloak miller claimed. If he had truly believed what he had just posted he would have not tried to move the town towards Jonty so late in the day. Moving the lynch target is scummy as well on it's own, as there was no way we would have been able to get any semblance of case, counter, claim and discussion in a mere 3 days. This action also was possibly a failed attempt to reduce pressure on Kager, who flipped scum.

Now that is an interesting find. I completely missed that. Here's what he says right after the claim.
XenHu wrote:Brilliant. Two role claims in one day. The Stormcloaks and Thalmor might as well sleepwalk through this game(and they probably are.)

He still thinks the Stormcloaks are the mafia yet he lets the last claim go. I would like to get an explanation out of him. Vote X.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby jonty125 on Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:55 pm

soundman wrote:
crazymilkshake5 wrote:
shieldgenerator7 wrote:I have a question about the night scene. So the Companions are mafia? The name is in red, so I assume so. Does this fit with flavor? I don't know who the antagonists are in this game.

-SG7 ( :) )

In game companions are a side quest, not really evil, even though they are werewolves, I would say that they are third party, probably not mafia, which now makes seance why the dovahkiin's name was the same color, and not the same color as skyrim. He could join any faction he wanted, dark brotherhood, thieves guild, mages guild, companions, and even help fight by the Stormcloaks or the Imperials side in the war. The player controlled his "alignment". You could play the game like a goody to shoes, or like the devil.

Here's what I think is going on. I think Everywhere has the Dovahkiin on the 'evil' path. No matter what the player chooses the Thalmor are always 'third party' and the other minor roles are always 'town'. I came into the game thinking that the Dovahkiin would be good but there is no reason for him not to be bad. The Dovahkiin and his crew are Mafia and the Thalmor are Third Party.

edocsil wrote:Vote X

XenHu wrote:Stormcloaks are likely to be the mafia, would be my guess. The Thalmor will not win immediately after achieving their win condition.

-X


We had a stormcloak miller claimed. If he had truly believed what he had just posted he would have not tried to move the town towards Jonty so late in the day. Moving the lynch target is scummy as well on it's own, as there was no way we would have been able to get any semblance of case, counter, claim and discussion in a mere 3 days. This action also was possibly a failed attempt to reduce pressure on Kager, who flipped scum.

Now that is an interesting find. I completely missed that. Here's what he says right after the claim.
XenHu wrote:Brilliant. Two role claims in one day. The Stormcloaks and Thalmor might as well sleepwalk through this game(and they probably are.)

He still thinks the Stormcloaks are the mafia yet he lets the last claim go. I would like to get an explanation out of him. Vote X.


Same, if I was playing animal mafia (lets say cats are scum) and someone claimed a tiger, why would I let the claim slip through like that? vote X
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby XenHu on Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:06 am

edocsil wrote:Vote X

XenHu wrote:Stormcloaks are likely to be the mafia, would be my guess. The Thalmor will not win immediately after achieving their win condition.

-X


We had a stormcloak miller claimed. If he had truly believed what he had just posted he would have not tried to move the town towards Jonty so late in the day. Moving the lynch target is scummy as well on it's own, as there was no way we would have been able to get any semblance of case, counter, claim and discussion in a mere 3 days. This action also was possibly a failed attempt to reduce pressure on Kager, who flipped scum.

Then there is this,

XenHu wrote:Brilliant. Two role claims in one day. The Stormcloaks and Thalmor might as well sleepwalk through this game(and they probably are.)

/ wrote:Whilst mindless bandwagons are perhaps unhelpful most of the time, we do only have 3 days left to accomplish something


No, no, no, no, no. This isn't going to fly anymore. It was fine for D1, but even so, look what happened there? In the space of one day and night, we have lost three pro-town. If we ever had a time where we could 'afford' to lose someone, the time has long passed. We've now forced two claims, both of which seem pretty legit.

If you really want to pressure inactives, here's a list:

soundman
Clever
ghostly
edocsil(not inactive, however, just rather timely that he is gone for the entire weekend. Don't like it. It's been used as an excuse by other players in the past.)
new guy(not inactive, but all I've seen him do is show up, start some shit for a page or two, and then leave. And I cannot ignore his 'softclaim' on Day 1. Why was he not killed during the night?)
shieldgenerator(Just showed up now to say he is catching up. We'll see what he brings to the table.)

Honestly, this is one game where I would love to be on the side of the antagonists. I'm calling it now, an easy win for the bad guys if this keeps up. So much potential for submarining between the amount of inactives and the role claims, it's crazy.

-X


X is at the same time pushing for talk, discusion and other good things, but then sets it up for someone else (Important!) to try to pressure an inactive with only a few days remaining. This is scummy, and it keeps his hands largely clean.

I quickly went through the thread again. Nothing before page 20 is really worth much, and X is the only guy who (negatively) stands out at me in the last 20 pages. I think this case has merit and is worth pursuing.


He claimed Stormcloak? Not from what I saw. There was this:

new guy1 wrote:I believe that kagerru's claim is fake. My reasoning is because miller is the perfect mafia fakeclaim and also I would expect his character which he claimed to have a different role not the miller role. He is powerful from what I know as he is the magic user for the stormcloaks. He has to be good at what he does to be that high up in the resistance, so therefore I believe his claim would fit the bill as I have done that quest, but its too convenient of a claim. unvote, vote kage.

@X- I probably wasnt killed in the night because the mafia figured I would be watched.


But aside from newguy, no one else mentioned it, so why single me out? Most of you know the lore better than me, having played the game where I have not. Could I not ask how it went passed all of you as well? I will admit, it looks bad. Could I have acted upon what newguy said? Yeah. But I didn't. He was the only one to bring up the Stormcloaks and Kage, no one else. So I let it go. How am I to know if newguy's view of the character is correct?


Secondly, I didn't 'set up' anything. I've been crusading against in-actives, in one form or another throughout most of this game. If I am to pick a fault for myself, it's perhaps that I've spent too much time doing so. Can I really be blamed for that?


Also, y'all were kind enough to miss this:


XenHu wrote:Stormcloaks are likely to be the mafia, would be my guess. The Thalmor will not win immediately after achieving their win condition.


That is posted fact. I have been touching on this for awhile, was hoping to not have to come out and say it. It's the same reason why I know and can say with full confidence, that the red characters are NOT baddies. They are Thalmor targets.

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XenHu wrote:Also, wtf was this:
shieldgenerator7 wrote:wow night already? I'm not even all caught up yet.

oh well, still can't wait to see how my role affects the night. /)^3^(\

Good night all!

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You've not only provided zero to the game up until this point, you've also done what I consider mod-kill worthy.


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I agree that SG7 has contributed very little; but all he has done is soft-claim a role with a night action - I don't understand what he has done wrong to be worthy of a modkill,


He power-claimed AT NIGHT! That doesn't bother you. Does this?

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It was the last thing he said pre-lynch. This kind of behavior gets a free pass now?

I'm leaving my vote on SG7 for the time being. At this point, it has no better place to go. As I've said before, the amount of people actually playing<the amount of people in the game. So you'll excuse me if I'm less than enthused at this point.

(And frankly, I was hoping to turn up dead today)

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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby XenHu on Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:07 am

EBYOP: I've had a little vodka tonight, if the post is less than clear, that'll be why.

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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:35 am

Yes X that is a borderline mod kill statement, but I would assume the "mafia" would take care of that unless he is one of theirs. I'm still not sure on Jonty, but with last night's actions I'm willing to leave it alone for now seeing we still had 2 deaths although it appears one of them was in red so I'm guessing that is mafia. I don't really know the story that much so I'm just basing it off of previous experiences. In regards to stealing my vote, you can go f yourself since I did state that I would hammer if necessary, but some people did say they wanted to use the the remaining time for discussion.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby edocsil on Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:20 am

XenHu wrote:He claimed Stormcloak? Not from what I saw. There was this:

new guy1 wrote:I believe that kagerru's claim is fake. My reasoning is because miller is the perfect mafia fakeclaim and also I would expect his character which he claimed to have a different role not the miller role. He is powerful from what I know as he is the magic user for the stormcloaks. He has to be good at what he does to be that high up in the resistance, so therefore I believe his claim would fit the bill as I have done that quest, but its too convenient of a claim. unvote, vote kage.

@X- I probably wasnt killed in the night because the mafia figured I would be watched.


But aside from newguy, no one else mentioned it, so why single me out? Most of you know the lore better than me, having played the game where I have not.


Look it up then. I had to wiki the page as well despite spending many hours on the game. I don't recall every character. If you don't want to play you don't have to.


XenHu wrote:Also, y'all were kind enough to miss this:

XenHu wrote:Stormcloaks are likely to be the mafia, would be my guess. The Thalmor will not win immediately after achieving their win condition.


That is posted fact. I have been touching on this for awhile, was hoping to not have to come out and say it. It's the same reason why I know and can say with full confidence, that the red characters are NOT baddies. They are Thalmor targets.


Yes, I had reasoned that out as well a while ago. It's not like the Dovahkiin isn't the pro town hero. However, the Thalmor likely knew of these maroon townies before the start of the game, it is their WC in fact.


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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby pancakemix on Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:09 am

Not buying the XenHu case. Sure, he could have stabbed in the dark with an inactive, but he didn't. So what? As of right now, I think he's been one of the most pro-town players in this game and this case is tenuous at best.

Can I also point out that Wuunferth is not a Stormcloak, he just works in Windhelm? Thanks...
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby edocsil on Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:22 am

pancakemix wrote:Not buying the XenHu case. Sure, he could have stabbed in the dark with an inactive, but he didn't. So what? As of right now, I think he's been one of the most pro-town players in this game and this case is tenuous at best.

Can I also point out that Wuunferth is not a Stormcloak, he just works in Windhelm? Thanks...


http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Wuun ... e_Unliving

Make a case then If you don't like this one. I couldn't find anything better. Also, X has more then enough experience to appear pro town no matter his side.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby pancakemix on Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:07 am

edocsil wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Not buying the XenHu case. Sure, he could have stabbed in the dark with an inactive, but he didn't. So what? As of right now, I think he's been one of the most pro-town players in this game and this case is tenuous at best.

Can I also point out that Wuunferth is not a Stormcloak, he just works in Windhelm? Thanks...


http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Wuun ... e_Unliving

Make a case then If you don't like this one. I couldn't find anything better. Also, X has more then enough experience to appear pro town no matter his side.


Like I said, not a Stormcloak. All Holds have a wizard, those wizards don't change with the civil war.

As for a different case, how about the nag/newguy link? It's been noted several times and I don't think it should be overlooked. I'll bring it back more concretely later this evening.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby XenHu on Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:59 pm

edocsil wrote:
XenHu wrote:He claimed Stormcloak? Not from what I saw. There was this:

new guy1 wrote:I believe that kagerru's claim is fake. My reasoning is because miller is the perfect mafia fakeclaim and also I would expect his character which he claimed to have a different role not the miller role. He is powerful from what I know as he is the magic user for the stormcloaks. He has to be good at what he does to be that high up in the resistance, so therefore I believe his claim would fit the bill as I have done that quest, but its too convenient of a claim. unvote, vote kage.

@X- I probably wasnt killed in the night because the mafia figured I would be watched.


But aside from newguy, no one else mentioned it, so why single me out? Most of you know the lore better than me, having played the game where I have not.


Look it up then. I had to wiki the page as well despite spending many hours on the game. I don't recall every character. If you don't want to play you don't have to.


If I didn't want to play, I wouldn't have signed up. I'm not just going to up and quit because things aren't going my way. I am allowed to express my ample frustrations, however, and will continue to do so.



XenHu wrote:Also, y'all were kind enough to miss this:

XenHu wrote:Stormcloaks are likely to be the mafia, would be my guess. The Thalmor will not win immediately after achieving their win condition.


That is posted fact. I have been touching on this for awhile, was hoping to not have to come out and say it. It's the same reason why I know and can say with full confidence, that the red characters are NOT baddies. They are Thalmor targets.


edocsil wrote:Yes, I had reasoned that out as well a while ago. It's not like the Dovahkiin isn't the pro town hero. However, the Thalmor likely knew of these maroon townies before the start of the game, it is their WC in fact.


You figured that out, how? By my saying so? You never voiced it before, AFAIK.


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If you are that critical of a townie resign and let another take your place. Or you know, you could figure out how to play the game as it is now and have fun, but it is up to you.


So now, wanting to enjoy the game, and expecting participation from all players is considered critical? I'm sorry, I signed up to play a mafia game(which I can play fine, thank you). Not to sit and watch a good chunk of the player list stand around with their thumbs up their ass while I'm crucified for calling them out on it. Also, this:

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The need for knowledge of the theme was understated, IMO. Not faulting the Mod, or blaming him for my actions. Just thought I'd point that out. I don't think I've ever played a theme game that had this much homework required.

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