TOMBSTONE MAFIA *Day 7* MAFIA WIN!!!!!!

[Syzygy]

Hi guys. I'm sorry I missed completely yesterday.

My ADSL connection capped out and I had no internet access. So please don't get all lynch happy on me for that.

I did read through the previous day. Nice, but we're still in the deep dwang.

Welcome back Aegnor.

[Aegnor]

Thanks, my 8 minute absence felt like eternity.

[wicked]

Ooh Aegnor! Please tell us you left behind some of your inventions??? That's certainly a role I want to hear about after the game!

A couple things on yesterday's lynch. Aimless showed up as a godfather. In any night action, a godfather is protected... shows up clean, can't be killed, etc... How could Tonka have known Aimless was scum if Aimless was a godfather, as we now know? Tonka, are you rival mafia, or some other non-protownie role? There's certainly a possibility of two small mafias in this big game, and the intro and movie background certainly lend itself to that possibility. So Tonka, I'd like to know the answer to that, and also what "game" you played last night and any info you got from it.

Second, I'd like to hear from Moz about what he did last night, and the night before.

We're getting down to the wire here, and it's not looking good for a townie win. I'm assuming the mafia win condition is control 50% of the game, as it has been in every other game I've played (although not sure how a possible 2-mafia would play into that). That means we HAVE to get this right, hence my pointed questions.

[wicked]

*to clarify why I'm suspicious of Tonka... the game I was in with rival mafia, we were given a mafia cop who could find out others' roles.

[Aegnor]

A second mafia is not out of the question at the moment since we suffered 2 night kills. However, I believe the presence of an SK/Vig is more probable.

[The1exile]

@ wicked:

Inventor gets one use things to give him abilities, like investgate, protect, roleblck yada yada.

I believe GT knew Aimless was mafia from his play style. It is possible that he is a mafia usurper, though.

[wicked]

I believe GT knew Aimless was mafia from his play style. It is possible that he is a mafia usurper, though.

whoa. Major FOS of exile for obvious skimming.

[MountainLion]

I guess I will say it again: Welcome back Aegnor





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LYNCH AEGNOR!!!

[The1exile]

I believe GT knew Aimless was mafia from his play style. It is possible that he is a mafia usurper, though.

whoa. Major FOS of exile for obvious skimming.

Um. Excuse me, wtf.

QFT:

well the only problem is this seems to be a very similar start to the way you played film noir, a game that you almost won for us as scum. Your being fairly helpful without being too helpful and suggesting things that sort of line you up down the line as being a good guy, though they dont really add up to too much of substance.

So i ask again, why exactly arent you scum?

honestly having been scum with him in that game and being out early, aimless weaved a masterpiece as scum. And ive played with him in games where hes pro town and honestly its a bit more like his style to be scum when hes acting as he is right now. Im as sure as i can be that he is in fact scum.

Now he supposedly confirmed it with his role, which he claimed about, but now consider the possibility that he is lying and is actually a mafia usurper, in which case getting the mafia godfather is in his best interests.

Now, if there's anything else you want tme to explain (asuide form why I wasn't on to vote aimless at 2am) thwen I will.

I will put an FOS on XenHu though because AImless said he was protown in the deputy claim bit.

[moz976]

Ooh Aegnor! Please tell us you left behind some of your inventions??? That's certainly a role I want to hear about after the game!

A couple things on yesterday's lynch. Aimless showed up as a godfather. In any night action, a godfather is protected... shows up clean, can't be killed, etc... How could Tonka have known Aimless was scum if Aimless was a godfather, as we now know? Tonka, are you rival mafia, or some other non-protownie role? There's certainly a possibility of two small mafias in this big game, and the intro and movie background certainly lend itself to that possibility. So Tonka, I'd like to know the answer to that, and also what "game" you played last night and any info you got from it.

Second, I'd like to hear from Moz about what he did last night, and the night before.

We're getting down to the wire here, and it's not looking good for a townie win. I'm assuming the mafia win condition is control 50% of the game, as it has been in every other game I've played (although not sure how a possible 2-mafia would play into that). That means we HAVE to get this right, hence my pointed questions.

I slept last night and the night before. Why what did you do Mrs. Wicked?

[Syzygy]

I believe GT knew Aimless was mafia from his play style. It is possible that he is a mafia usurper, though.

whoa. Major FOS of exile for obvious skimming.

GT claimed that he was some kind of gambler, didn't he?

[The1exile]

I believe GT knew Aimless was mafia from his play style. It is possible that he is a mafia usurper, though.

whoa. Major FOS of exile for obvious skimming.

GT claimed that he was some kind of gambler, didn't he?

See previous post about possibility that he's lying.

[wicked]

Exile did you miss the bit about Tonka's gambler role claim, and supposedly being told by Ank that Aim was scum?? That's why AIm was lynched, not b/c of Aim's initial suspicions. Yes, Aim was scum... but the mod would not have revealed that info in any night action since Aim was a godfather.

What's a usurper?

[moz976]

It is interesting that there were two kills tonight. I am of the opinion that there is a just one mafia and a serial killer.

I would like the hear GT's answer to wicked's questions. Usually you wouldn't see that someone was mafia from a night action if they are a godfather. But then it could be a strange twist since I haven't ever heard of a gambler.

[wicked]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we've had:

night 1: 3 deaths
night 2: 1 death
night 3: 2 deaths

assuming the hider hid wrong, which is very likely, I think what happened is there are two night killers, either 2 mafia, or 1 mafia + 1 SK. I think in night two, one of those roles was blocked. I think this warrants further discussion, but I want to hear from Tonka first.

[Syzygy]

I believe GT knew Aimless was mafia from his play style. It is possible that he is a mafia usurper, though.

whoa. Major FOS of exile for obvious skimming.

GT claimed that he was some kind of gambler, didn't he?

See previous post about possibility that he's lying.

Hmm... very possible.

I played as a gambler in vgm's mafia game.

My role worked as follows: each night I picked a number between 1 and 10.

If I picked the wrong number I died.

I think GT's talking crap.

SFOS: Got tankaed

[The1exile]

Exile did you miss the bit about Tonka's gambler role claim, and supposedly being told by Ank that Aim was scum?? That's why AIm was lynched, not b/c of Aim's initial suspicions. Yes, Aim was scum... but the mod would not have revealed that info in any night action since Aim was a godfather.

I didn't mean why he was lynched, I mean t why GT suspected him. I may have missed some stuff but I'm not trying to skim.

What's a usurper?

I believe it's a role in which the usurper tries to get the godfather disposed of so he can take power. If he succeeds, he wins, or so I recall. Obviously doing this via lynch is a good way.

I think the role has been here once, maybe in X's.

[wicked]

well that's a new one on me! now I definitely want to hear from Tinka!

[Syzygy]

What's a usurper?

I believe it's a role in which the usurper tries to get the godfather disposed of so he can take power. If he succeeds, he wins, or so I recall. Obviously doing this via lynch is a good way.

I think the role has been here once, maybe in X's.

I remember it. It was in the V for Vendetta game.

The usurper can win if he gets the godfather lynched AND the mafia defeat the town.

It's quite a hard role.

[wicked]

So it's definitely not a pro-town role then. Is the usurper given the godfather's name? That would certainly fit this scenario.

[The1exile]

well that's a new one on me! now I definitely want to hear from Tinka!

I am very occasionally good at mafia games

[Aegnor]

I'm gonna FOS Wicked for her reluctant behavior yesterday. Even when it was quite clear that Aimless is scum she was still questioning tonka's motives, heck she still is.

And FOS JND for being the last to vote Aimless, and for looking quite suspicious by doing so(pp. 55-56) - I think he put an effort into looking innocent and he tries to cover up it up by voting for another scum (and that only after making sure Aimless had no chance of surviving).

[wicked]

umm, JND's dead genius.

[wicked]

And it was not quite clear until the day progressed. sorry if I don't just blindly follow someone, who may very well in fact turn out to not be pro-town. gimme a break.

[The1exile]

I'm gonna FOS Wicked for her reluctant behavior yesterday. Even when it was quite clear that Aimless is scum she was still questioning tonka's motives, heck she still is.

I'm questioning Tonka's motives as well. Did you read the points as to why?