The Bison King wrote:whitestazn88 wrote:And probably thinks Avatar is the best movie ever (which it isn't).
ITT: Discuss the awesomeness of Prometheus.
Please let's avoid nitpicking little details about the science or some of the poor decisions made by characters in the film, or some of the weird unexplained differences in types of lifeforms. There is something called suspension of belief, and in order to enjoy a movie like this, you must be able to do that something, or you could have watched a 4 hour movie with in depth explanations for every little thing featured in the film.
I really really liked it. I don't really know what else to say about it at this point, having just got home from the theater, but I'll add tomorrow.
Fine I'm a cunt. I disliked the movie.
but I'll humor you and I will
"avoid nitpicking little details about the science or some of the poor decisions made by characters in the film, or some of the weird unexplained differences in types of lifeforms." So instead I'll focus on how shitty the characters were. Did it not bother you that this crew traveled half way around the galaxy for this mission and most of them seemingly didn't care at all about their mission? Most of them didn't even seem to know why they were there. I would say that maybe they had no choice in the matter except that they made it expressly clear that everyone chose to be there when that bad ass geologist with the Mohawk said "I'm only here for money".
Can we just talk about what a shitty character he was for a second? He's only here for money? Really? Cause there's plenty of ways to make money with out traveling thousands of lightyears into deep space, and leaving everything you knew and loved behind (unless this movie is completely ignoring the fact that traveling through space at light speed also involves traveling through time (I know that's a science nitpick and I'm sorry, but it's a pretty big one). I mean seriously who let this guy one board? He was like a cartoon character. The badass loner who isn't a team player. Then when they find evidence of alien life he wigs out like Shaggy from Scooby Doo. Did no one tell him that that was the entire point of the mission? Was that 3 minute briefing scene that they got on the ship really the only briefing these poor dumb fucks actually received?" and for all his attitude, he was a
geologist! A rock scientist! Where the f*ck does the rock scientist get off acting like Falco from Star Fox?
To sum it up, The characters sucked (I know I only touched on one but I got bored of writing this, if you really want me to tear apart the other characters I will, however I doubt you care), the writing was blunt and often just bad, the story did a bad job of integrating the themes and instead had characters obtusely ask questions like "do you still believe" whenever there was a plot development, and no one behaved like any actual human would when they were put into the situations that they were. You're right, if I ignore all that maybe it was a good movie.
I could go on for ever. I didn't go to the movies wanting to find criticisms, I wanted to like the film. However that's sadly not how it turned out. Not liking a film doesn't make me a cunt. I'm not judging you for liking the film, so don't judge me bro.
Also:
There is something called suspension of belief
It's the movie's job to suspend my disbelief, not mine. I could sit down, watch Teletubby's for 3 hours, suspend my disbelief, and tell myself that I've been watching Alien Vs. Predator. People don't do that because it makes the f*ck-tards.
I really didn't read the whole thing you wrote, but I'm going to respond to it like I did.
I didn't realize everyone was going to get sand in their pussies by me saying that "if you didn't like prometheus, you're a cunt". If I recall correctly, there were multiple threads in which _______ was a cunt. I was merely riffing on that. I'd already admitted that there were problems with the film, in my original post, although at the time I thought many of them were nitpicky, and then again after Symmetry decided to berate me, where I conceded that the movie was even worse off than I had suspected.
The main point that I made, was that the movie was enjoyable, and that rather than being a scrooge about it and my spent money, I'd take what was enjoyable out of it moreso than the things that detracted from it.
And I don't necessarily agree that it's solely on the movie to provide the suspension of belief. If that were the case, why would anyone ever want to watch a sci-fi, fantasy, alternate history, whatever movie? You go into it knowing that you're not seeing anything that's realistic, therefore you shouldn't expect every single detail of the film to be realistic.
Did you really want to add an extra 10 minutes to the movie that showed the background story and rationale for all of these characters going on this mission? How do you know that there are better ways of making money in 2093, in a universe completely made up? Granted, if I had made the film, I would have made it so the characters were more well informed, had trained together, and therefore had at least some form of camaraderie, rather than trying to put in that stupid "hey I'm a biologist" scene, but then people would be complaining "OMG Ridley Scott just makes us assume that they're all hunky dory, but then that makes the movie bad because they die, and the characters don't spend more than 30 seconds ruing the death of their companions".
As for the previous comment by Grady, I believe that the answer to why the Engineers wanted humans to be destroyed was answered when it wasn't answered and the engineer ripped off David's head (thanks for making me spoil the movie). If you were omnipotent and could create life, why does it matter what your whims are? It's like if ants started asking each other, "why are those giants smashing us and flooding us and OMG it burns!!!!" We don't give a shit about creatures that are below us, hell, we don't even care about other humans (hello Tibet, Darfur, the Holocaust, Palestine [depending on what floats your boat], etc, etc, etc). Maybe there's a point to be said in that, rather than trying to chalk it up to some convoluted christian thing. Where the hell do you even get space Jesus from? The ruthlessness of the engineers is a comparison to Shaw's belief in Christianity for sure, but it's more bashing Christians, who believe that God can smash the world because we sin or whatever, but then she can't believe that another omnipotent being, based in reality (of that universe) is making the same moves, but not because of sin, but just because. It's saying, if you can't believe one thing that's completely ludicrous, why do you still hold faith in the other? Because you're stupid.
Which gets back to TBK's point. Yes, many of the characters are stupid. Maintaining Christian faith, saying you're half a billion miles from earth when it's obviously 35 light years (although that may just be a saying), or touching random space creatures. But like I said previously, these things add something to an otherwise straightforward movie. If there was nothing to move the plot forward besides the main premise of the film, well then people would still be complaining. Could all of the little details have been straightened out better, of course. But I'd rather not hold my breath for the studios to make everything in proper order when they have a good enough product that they can make money on.
I'll just pose a question to those who have had the opposite opinion of mine: Did every little detail in the Avengers suit your liking? Weren't some of the character flaws in that movie a bit baffling as well? Did you still like that movie? If you didn't, well then I don't really have much else to say, because it's obvious that you have no ability for enjoyment and brain-numbing activity, and you're that much smarter and cooler than me for it.
