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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:17 pm

unvote

This game makes my heart pump and I need time to assess all information and amalgamate it.

Where did IB claim keymaker aage?
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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby pmchugh on Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:24 pm

unvote vote IB

I believe aage, try not to be so obvious IB ;)
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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby Iron Butterfly on Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:28 pm

pmchugh wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:
pmchugh wrote:IB is obviously scum. Chuck I am not entirely sure about, vengeful is a pretty mafia like claim esp with so many survivors who wont lynch him. Aage is very suspicious and I am happy to get a claim there.

unvote vote aage

Explain why I am scum?

My vote history dictates otherwise as I was steadfast in my lynch of Clever. I stood up for both Vodean and Hippo.

Your use of adjectives also makes me highly suspect. While I can understand that third party and town have a valid reason to challange my claim and others undeclared why would you say "obviously" unless you are trying to deflect.

You remind me of the polical attack dog whose sole porose is to deflect from the real issues. I want you to explain to me why I am "obviously" scum. I totally expect you to ignore my question because you have no argument other then because you say so.


Lmfao. Do you not see the irony? You are the one trying to deflect attention, if you didn't notice I actually created all the talk today and got lots of claims out in the open. How am I deflecting attention? You on the other hand are attempting to force pressure on to someone who is all but confirmed as not being mafia or smith, you are the one deflecting attention from what we all agree as our goal: finding Smith before the cult take over.

And yet you did not answer the question I asked. What proof do you have that I am "obviously" scum? Sure you created all the talk...while at the same time holding your middle finger up to the Town faction.
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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby Iron Butterfly on Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:34 pm

I am the KEYMAKER!! VT. I am the little oriental dude.
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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby thechuck51 on Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:43 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:unvote

This game makes my heart pump and I need time to assess all information and amalgamate it.

Where did IB claim keymaker aage?


Iron Butterfly wrote:I am the Keymaker. I am a VT.

A mass claim brings us no closer this turn to finding the recruiter.


unvote vote IB keymaker as a roleblocker is more believable than keymaker as a VT
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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby jak111 on Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:58 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:unvote

This game makes my heart pump and I need time to assess all information and amalgamate it.

Where did IB claim keymaker aage?


He did say it and he said it again down below. Hmm, could one of them be Smith? Neither of them seem to be agreeing with one another ;) I doubt at this point Mafia would turn on one another that quickly so they are from different factions.
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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby Iron Butterfly on Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:08 pm

I am not going to argue flavor. It is what you wish to make it.

Neb couldnt be Tank either.

Morpheus wasnt killed in the beggining of the movie.

personally I beleive the 3rd party is BSing us. The pressure on me did not start until I pointed out that PMC seemed to be drawing attention to himself to be lynched. I think he is willing to sacrifice himself to give Cult another recruit because i would think that even if you lynch a cult member it wont help the recruiter. It just buys more time.
heck maybe Im wrong but can you honestly trust what comes out of PMCs mouth?

Personally I beleive the wool has been completely pulled over Towns eyes.

I voted Aage to vote in solidarity with jak and Doom.
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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby safariguy5 on Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:09 pm

Vote Count

IB(3)- aage, pmc, chuck
aage(5)- edoc, jak, chuck, jonty, mob
pmc(2)- vodean, hippo

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Apologies for getting this out late, I was busy with work. On a lighter note, I'm very impressed at all the activity.
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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby safariguy5 on Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:17 pm

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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby Iron Butterfly on Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:18 pm

Also...Aagee must know that if I am lynched and Turn out to be who I say I am he will be lyched next turn. Lets say for argument I am who I say.

He has baught another day for CULT. If he were mafia he must know that his faction would be screwed by lynching other then Cult. The logic holds true if he were 3rd party, which he isnt.

The only faction that would benifit by claiming my role hoping to buy ONE MORE ROUND would be cult.
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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby edocsil on Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:49 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:Also...Aagee must know that if I am lynched and Turn out to be who I say I am he will be lyched next turn. Lets say for argument I am who I say.

He has baught another day for CULT. If he were mafia he must know that his faction would be screwed by lynching other then Cult. The logic holds true if he were 3rd party, which he isnt.

The only faction that would benifit by claiming my role hoping to buy ONE MORE ROUND would be cult.


Aage will just get fucked in the night if he lied.

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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby MoB Deadly on Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:57 pm

aage wrote:I don't see why everyone is agreeing to a mass claim. We've achieved an outed doctor and your suspicions haven't changed a bit.


Anyway.

I'm a town roleblocker. I haven't much evidence to back it up, since I haven't used it since I dropped in, but LSU used it on Jak during night 2.

On a more interesting note, The Keymaker is my character. I'll (unvote?) vote Iron Butterfly for using it. I must say it's a bit poorly chosen to claim VT on a program role, though.


Did Safari tell you what you did on N1?
Who did you block on N3 and N4?

This could be Smith trying to get 1 last kill in before he dies..
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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby MoB Deadly on Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:58 pm

Oh..... read your post again... you haven't used it? Why not?

Doesnt the evidence kind of show that Doom was blocked last night? This seems suspect.
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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:52 pm

Reconfirm!

We are all here to do what we do...

I've been keeping up, just dying to speak up! But we're past the most frustrating part of that previous lynch, so I won't unload on anyone now.

Interesting that the mass claim came up with two conflicting claims...it was inevitable. I say we proceed with this line of questioning. Someone said earlier that we need to get all the claims out now, before mafia or the Smiths can regroup. I'm sure we can get a few more duplicate claims before we are done.

Between Iron and Aage, I would lynch Iron. I almost spit my food out when I read his claim...Keymaker as VT? Lol...(yes, I know the Neb 1.0 as Tank argument, but let's be honest...Tank was not that major, he wasn't even in 2 and 3)

Now, on to PMChugh and edocsil. They are some cocky SOBs aren't they? "Everyone follow us, because we're the only way you can win." Grates on me to no end. However, I think they may be right here...which hurts even more, but I'll get over it. I will suggest they not get too cocky...I'm betting they are not as defensively stacked as they like to say they are, and town is not as helpless as they think we are. ;)

So, on to the list...

claimed/assumed:
thehippo8 - Zee, Vanilla Townie
vodean - Mouse, Vanilla Townie

betiko - 3rd party merovigien
pmchugh - 3rd party merovigien
Edocsil - trainman, 3rd party merovigien busdriver

everywhere116 - sati, town priest
jak111 -trinity, town mason and lover with doom, town tracker
DoomYoshi -neo, town mason and lover with jak, bulletproof?
ghostly447/Neb 2.0 -Oracle, town mason with SG7, COP
MoB Deadly - Town Doc
thechuck51 - Ghost vengeful townie

Iron Butterfly - keymaker VT
aage - Keymaker; roleblocker, town.


So, the Merovingian (please note the spelling, it's been getting butchered) clan can consist of:

1. The Merovingian
2. Twin #1
3. Twin #2
4. The Trainman
5. Persephone

For now, we'll leave it at that...but I would like to know who the final 2 are...and I think it would be a good gesture for them to make. They have now succeeded in outting every townie...all while keep themselves safely tucked away. (can you tell it burns me?)

unknown:
Djfireside
jonty125
leehar
soundman


We need to hear from these 4 before we lynch anyone. So, claim up, boys! Let the fun continue!
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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby Iron Butterfly on Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:54 pm

LOL... he clearly stated he has not used his block since he took over.

Funny how all the med faction is swarming on me. We have Edocsil and PMC jumping on now.

Before Mob claimed edoccil was trying to lynch mob because he caught him.

Yup I beleive they are trying everything to divert the lynch of aage/recruiter.

It is him lieing or it is me.

While I can not prove I am not cult. I can prove to some extent I am not mafia and haave the towns best interests.
My vote history and patterns should tell you that.

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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby Iron Butterfly on Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:02 pm

Neb

Since the begginingg I have been at the forefront of arguing that the "Zions are VT" is BS. I knew this moment would come where I had to claim. I could have easily lied but have choosen not to because lieing would have possibly drawn out another power role.

I would think you out of all players would understand the most.

There is no way Tank would be a VT.
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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:19 pm

We need DJ, Jonty, Leehar and soundman to claim...don't get your undies in a bundle, Iron. Also, recall that I just finished a game with you, where you were very good at covering your 3rd party tracks. I don't buy for a minute that you are the keymaker. Even if you are, I don't buy that aage would be Smith and out himself with a false claim on Keymaker.

But, like I said, let's get the four unknown claims to come forward. Either you and aage are mafia...I don't think you are smith. i would like to get more evidence. Worst comes to worst, I investigate one of you tomorrow...
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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby Iron Butterfly on Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:10 pm

Nebuchadnezer wrote:We need DJ, Jonty, Leehar and soundman to claim...don't get your undies in a bundle, Iron. Also, recall that I just finished a game with you, where you were very good at covering your 3rd party tracks. I don't buy for a minute that you are the keymaker. Even if you are, I don't buy that aage would be Smith and out himself with a false claim on Keymaker.

But, like I said, let's get the four unknown claims to come forward. Either you and aage are mafia...I don't think you are smith. i would like to get more evidence. Worst comes to worst, I investigate one of you tomorrow...


DUDE...

either I am lieing or aage is.

He was on his way to being lynched when I was forced to claim.
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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:20 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
Nebuchadnezer wrote:We need DJ, Jonty, Leehar and soundman to claim...don't get your undies in a bundle, Iron. Also, recall that I just finished a game with you, where you were very good at covering your 3rd party tracks. I don't buy for a minute that you are the keymaker. Even if you are, I don't buy that aage would be Smith and out himself with a false claim on Keymaker.

But, like I said, let's get the four unknown claims to come forward. Either you and aage are mafia...I don't think you are smith. i would like to get more evidence. Worst comes to worst, I investigate one of you tomorrow...


DUDE...

either I am lieing or aage is.

He was on his way to being lynched when I was forced to claim.


OR...you're BOTH lying.
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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby betiko on Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:06 am

Neb, we confirmed leehar as the 4th, and Dj claimed something, i don't remember what just now. Aage and ib are both bullshitting, but i think aage has more chances of being Smith. Chuck is Bs so is Dj. Jonty is the5th and soundman is left for full claims.
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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby thehippo8 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:16 am

Well, five and a bit pages to read ... phew doggy ... hasn't this game gone mental since I last looked in! Well my prompt on pmc did the trick and the game has moved on nicely. Thanks pmc, I'm inclined to accept what you say so UNVOTE.

Now, one thing got me in the hurly-burly and that is jonty's "meh" posting. Frankly the "meh" is one of those "oh no! if town and others aren't getting to the nub of it all I had better look townie now or I'm for it!" type comments and we should see that as a basis for tomorrow to start. But for now it's a decision to make. I tend to accept that neither aage nor IB are being entirely frank with us and in my book the lynch all liars mandate comes to hand. I'm inclined to go with IB for today. I think aage can wait and tomorrow we need to put pressure on jonty. But I think we've had a great day and by game standards this has been first rate!!

Anyways .. VOTE IB. Yep, that should be back to L1 ... so who's going to hammer?
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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby thehippo8 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:19 am

Sorry about the double post but my vote count was a little off there ... got distracted by the tele! Anyway ... my point still stand ... time to man (or woman) up!
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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby betiko on Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:22 am

thehippo8 wrote:Well, five and a bit pages to read ... phew doggy ... hasn't this game gone mental since I last looked in! Well my prompt on pmc did the trick and the game has moved on nicely. Thanks pmc, I'm inclined to accept what you say so UNVOTE.

Now, one thing got me in the hurly-burly and that is jonty's "meh" posting. Frankly the "meh" is one of those "oh no! if town and others aren't getting to the nub of it all I had better look townie now or I'm for it!" type comments and we should see that as a basis for tomorrow to start. But for now it's a decision to make. I tend to accept that neither aage nor IB are being entirely frank with us and in my book the lynch all liars mandate comes to hand. I'm inclined to go with IB for today. I think aage can wait and tomorrow we need to put pressure on jonty. But I think we've had a great day and by game standards this has been first rate!!

Anyways .. VOTE IB. Yep, that should be back to L1 ... so who's going to hammer?


i told in my previous post that jonty is the 5th. he doesn't need to look townie, he is not, he is one of us. we therefore only have soundman missing for claiming.
Let's not hurry anything shall we, can anyone unvote on IB please, i think he is just scum and not smith.

let's get back to this list of 5 huge suspects now that the 5 meros are revealed:

-aage
-ib
-dj
-soundman
-chuck

maybe one of them is town, but the other 4 are either scum or smith almost for sure (unless everywhere, vodean, hippo, mob did some manic stuff). we have lots of time, why are you guys even voting to put pressure??? you are only bringing us one step closer from an unwanted speed lynch.

let's hear from soundman, and discuss which one of the 5 is most likely to be smith, we have time guys! and with all we revealed we need to get organized before the night. what do we do if we get a scum, whet do we do if we get smith ect..
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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby aage on Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:24 am

MoB Deadly wrote:Oh..... read your post again... you haven't used it? Why not?

Doesnt the evidence kind of show that Doom was blocked last night? This seems suspect.

I threw in the suggestion because I wanted to know whether people would jump on it. Since I knew that one roleblocker is town, there had to be a second roleblocker and I doubt that.


I haven't used it because there are only two targets in the sea of The Unknown that I was interested in blocking. I would probably have blocked either Edoc or MoB for their scumsiness, but as it turns out they were two pretty vital town night roles. I was afraid I would screw up any chance town had in foiling mafia attempts.
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Re: Matrix Mafia Day 5

Postby thehippo8 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:37 am

Okay Betico ... you control 5 votes ... I'm happy to pressure soundman ... but I want to see every one of your chaps on him too and then we can have one other person on him to put him at L2 ... if you are willing to do that then it's a deal ... if not then your group have too much power ... what do you say?
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