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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby dazza2008 on Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:30 pm

Just caught up. Sorry I got busy. Not sure I believe Jak's claim to be honest. I guess the cop could be paranoid but what the mod told crazy could mean anything.

I am really suspicious of Jak claiming a third party role as he came up guilty. My experience normally only anti town roles come up guilty and what he claimed is not anti town. I will think more and see what else is said but right now I am thinking Jak should be lynched

If Jak is scum then Crazy most likely is too. Crazy I believe a full claim should be given.

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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby new guy1 on Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:36 pm

In response to dazza, we are discussing possible problems with the investigation, as the claim seems solid and there is something wrong with the investigation, but I believe the thought of both being mafia was brought up. Though this is a valid idea, I find it unlikely as Crazy is experienced enough (IMHO) to not just come out and cover for a fellow mafia member when theres a good chance he (jak) will be lynched anyways. Actually change of thought, I might want crazy to claim, reason is stuck to my notepad and I will tell why if/when he claims, as I just thought of something.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby dazza2008 on Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:41 pm

new guy1 wrote:In response to dazza, we are discussing possible problems with the investigation, as the claim seems solid and there is something wrong with the investigation, but I believe the thought of both being mafia was brought up. Though this is a valid idea, I find it unlikely as Crazy is experienced enough (IMHO) to not just come out and cover for a fellow mafia member when theres a good chance he (jak) will be lynched anyways. Actually change of thought, I might want crazy to claim, reason is stuck to my notepad and I will tell why if/when he claims, as I just thought of something.


Yeah probably not both scum but I don't believe Jak and what the mod told crazy does not tell us the cop is defective it could be aimed at the other part that has already been pointed out.

I don't know the show but is that cop likely to get wrong results? From what I have heard of it they are pretty good. I'm not seeing a paranoid cop being in play here. I could be wrong though. It happened once before :-$
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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby new guy1 on Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:58 pm

I didnt say he was a cop, hes in forensics. Doctor James "Jimmy" Palmer, replaced some other guy (no idea as I never watched before then) after Kate was shot by the sniper dude (I remember the episode, not the details). He is Ducky's assisstant and might be prone to wrong investigations, it was more of a speculation then an assumption, as I dont know if he is in the game nor do I know that the statement is true.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby crazymilkshake5 on Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:40 pm

If one more person wants a claim, a claim will be given.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby new guy1 on Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:11 pm

Okay, so I saw the name of the god father but I still tried. I went and tried to find his name in the NCIS episodes (looking it up and such) but his name doesnt pop up anywhere. It was actually pretty funny cause I looked up "NCIS Azhar al-Bakr" and the first option was conquerclub, so that was a nice suprise :P. Just wanted to keep you updated.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby strike wolf on Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:13 pm

had the same problem. I'm having trouble trusting Crazy's claim rihgt now so yes I do want him to claim.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby jak111 on Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:24 pm

@ CMS, you do not need to claim. Actually I think there may be a few mafia wanting you to claim. The reason why -I- don't want you to claim is it leaves more choices for scum to have to pick off before they can get to the person I need alive to win.

Speculate and question it all you want guys. My character is a pretty major character if you think about it and actually ever watched the show more than 10 episodes. He's not in a LOT of them, but he's pretty much the only FBI agent in constant contact with Gibbs. I do not know why I am 3rd party, nor do I care. I have a mission to keep someone alive and to do that I must make sure the mafia do not get their hands on him.

Seeing the actual claims so far and looking at my own, I am more prone to believe CMS than a few of you. Yea, his claim is a bit odd with the power he had. But look at my win condition, do you not think that is a bit messed up? Of course you do, that's why you're voting me.

Honestly, I love how many are jumping on the "only anti town come up as guilty". Bus drive is a possibility as NG pointed out, however I know I'm not town so I believe it's just a "Town or NOT Town" cop, not a "Town or Anti Town" cop.

If you seriously wish to waste resources to prove I'm not a threat to town you could put a tracker on me. I do not have some special night action. Pretty much I'm a 3rd party VT who can only win by surviving with a certain player.

Which brings me to a WIFOM/OMGUS here. Besides CMS and NG1 everyone seems prone to lynch me without even really thinking about it. I haven't been CC'd, I've been up straight with my claim and didn't waste time of letting votes pile on, and I've even told you my win condition. (which involves me helping town to achieve it properly). So, my question is, how many scum are hiding in this band wagon forming on me? I bet 1. Not 2 or 3, but 1. They are probably putting a single mafia forward to get some town cred (although it will be lost once I turn up who I say I am if you proceed with lynching).

But enough of the defensive stance. I'm aggressive as hell and I'm fired up tonight.


dazza2008 wrote:Just caught up. Sorry I got busy. Not sure I believe Jak's claim to be honest. I guess the cop could be paranoid but what the mod told crazy could mean anything.

I am really suspicious of Jak claiming a third party role as he came up guilty. My experience normally only anti town roles come up guilty and what he claimed is not anti town. I will think more and see what else is said but right now I am thinking Jak should be lynched

If Jak is scum then Crazy most likely is too. Crazy I believe a full claim should be given.

Fastposted.


This is the FIRST post Dazza has made since being called out for inactivity. In this post he has not only repeated what has been said, giving no valuable insight. He has also decided to say "Hey, if Jak is scum, Crazy MUST be scum, let's spend the next two days on killing off these two" That just cries out to me as wanting time to use NA's to kill people to lower down the numbers left, probably aiming for the ones who seem to have more power and hoping to get away with it by the time me and CMS are out of the picture. Now, that's okay, he also wants Crazy to come out and claim. Hell, if that's supposed to work then I guess "I believe Dazza should give a full claim" since he's been non contributing as of yet.

In Dazza's next post after being called out that both of us were probably not BOTH mafia, he fixed himself but used it to belittle CMS's power. He obviously doesn't like what CMS has brought to the table and would love if the cop was paranoid all in one.

Now, we're done with Dazza since he has no more posts to rip on him for. Time for Chuck (not saying he's mafia, but now I just feel like ripping on him for blurting our his results D2, he should have at least waited until D3 so he could check out both his sanity and if I did any suspicious behavior until then.

At the start of the day he literally blurts out that he got a guilty result on me. Not whether it was mafia/3rd party/etc, but just guilty. Guilty is vague among the Mafia game so this was not wise to do at the start, this is where he should have asked me questions, questions that he makes up that obviously only I and he would know. This would give me time to put forth a claim whether up forward or vaguely in response to only him so he could hide his cop role.

A few of you will be all like "But he got a GUILTY result! He should be public with town!" No.. he shouldn't be. He wasn't even on anyone's radar until he gave out his role and findings. Under this BS logic of sharing info with town, technically everyone is hiding something they aren't sharing. However it's too late to stop the claim since it has been stated but I'd advise Chuck to do a check more quietly next time as to not create a target on yourself for being a PR which literally has the potential to clear 4-5 people before they either die or come close to end game.

Fastposted x2. Name was obviously made up o.e I thought that would have been obvious the second I read the scene even though I don't know all the baddies in NCIS. (Only seen about 25 episodes or so so far :P)

As for CMS, don't claim. I believe you and I'd rather town be more of a mystery to mafia this game, especially with my WC. Claims either means outing the guy I must protect or narrowing the possibilities of who he is.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby crazymilkshake5 on Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:37 pm

jak111 wrote:This is jak's long-ass post

Does it say that if Gibbs dies that you too will die?
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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby jak111 on Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:05 pm

crazymilkshake5 wrote:
jak111 wrote:This is jak's long-ass post

Does it say that if Gibbs dies that you too will die?


No, it does not say this. Just simply that he must be alive for me to win.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby strike wolf on Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:06 pm

Actually I don't trust either of you. I don't even understand why your role would be 3rd party Jak when it seems the character should be town aligned (there also isn't enough NCIS members to make an effective town in a game this size (IMO) so him not being part of the NCIS doesn't sway my opinion, let alone why you would get a guilty result (though the latter I'm withholding my vote because of possible BD or sanity issues).

CMS' claim without a name is easily vague enough to be fake.

SO yeah I don't trust either of you at this point in time.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby jonty125 on Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:59 am

crazymilkshake5 wrote:If one more person wants a claim, a claim will be given.


I already requested a full claim,

crazymilkshake5 wrote:
jak111 wrote:This is jak's long-ass post

Does it say that if Gibbs dies that you too will die?


Then you don't follow up. FOS CM5
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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby dazza2008 on Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:40 am

Jak I did not say you were both definately scum. I said you could be. I said I do not trust your claim and that I think we should lynch you. Nothing you have said has made me change my mind on that. I said if you do flip scum the Crazy might well be too.

I did say Crazy might as well full claim. Your answer that I should claim is just stupid. He has already claimed so he should be specific so we can see if it fits flavour wise.

You are also saying that it makes him a target. How does it? He claimed a 1-shot ability and already used it. Why would full claiming make him a target?

You also say that the cop is going to die tonight but I don't see how since we are still likely to have powers to keep him alive or a watcher or something to catch the killer in the act.

You coming up as guilty is enough for me to think you should be lynched and your other actions are making me more sure it will be a good lynch for town.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:40 am

Its funny i was thinking that CMS has got to be a JOAT. What other charachter would have a one shot ability. Then I started thinking...well he couldnt be a DOC unless he had a 1 shot ability of truth serum. :lol: BIG WIFOM but does make sense.

It sounds silly and is a complete WIFOM but I would have to agree that making him claim could hurt more then help this early in game. What would him claiming solve?

If CMS had an ulterier motive he did not have to add the "somthing is amiss" part, which tells me he has the best interests of Town.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby crazymilkshake5 on Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:04 am

I am Special Agent Leroy Jethro Gibbs.

Town Roleblocker.

and the ability i used was my "gut" which, if you watch NCIS you know Jethro's gut is always right.

Theres your claim, now mafia have 3 targets they could take out.

for the love of God, nobody else claim.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby edocsil on Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:07 am

Jonty and dazza are wrong. Don't Claim CM5.

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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby edocsil on Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:07 am

edocsil wrote:Jonty and dazza are wrong. Don't Claim CM5.

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FOS Dazza and Jonty
That was stupid and pointless.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby jonty125 on Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:22 am

edocsil wrote:
edocsil wrote:Jonty and dazza are wrong. Don't Claim CM5.

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FOS Dazza and Jonty
That was stupid and pointless.


I was under the impression that was his only power. The beauty of hindsight.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby edocsil on Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:25 am

jonty125 wrote:
edocsil wrote:
edocsil wrote:Jonty and dazza are wrong. Don't Claim CM5.

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FOS Dazza and Jonty
That was stupid and pointless.


I was under the impression that was his only power. The beauty of hindsight.


No, several others were saying no before he claimed. I was as well, although his claim beat me to the punch. And even if that was his only, how would that make any improvements?
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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby isaiah40 on Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:50 am

And here I was going to tell crazy not to claim. Dang, 3 town claims in one day. With not a whole lot to go on, and to try and protect these three, I vote no lynch so we can see what info we can gleen from tonight's actions.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:57 am

jonty125 wrote:
edocsil wrote:
edocsil wrote:Jonty and dazza are wrong. Don't Claim CM5.

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FOS Dazza and Jonty
That was stupid and pointless.


I was under the impression that was his only power. The beauty of hindsight.


Whay would you assume saying "one shot ability" would be his only power. Although I was wrong my first instinct was JOAT.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby jonty125 on Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:27 am

edocsil wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
edocsil wrote:
edocsil wrote:Jonty and dazza are wrong. Don't Claim CM5.

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FOS Dazza and Jonty
That was stupid and pointless.


I was under the impression that was his only power. The beauty of hindsight.


No, several others were saying no before he claimed. I was as well, although his claim beat me to the punch. And even if that was his only, how would that make any improvements?


If he was scum trying to protect jak, his name could of got CC'd.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby dazza2008 on Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:31 am

Yeah I was wrong to get the full claim. I thought he had a one use ability and that was it. Even just a name claim to see if it fitted or would be countered.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby safariguy5 on Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:54 am

Wait, I'm confused, how does this affect the guilty investigation on jak? Given what CM5 has said, it seems like nothing has changed in that respect and I don't see any reason not to continue with it.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [13/16] Day 2: Bringing a Gun to a Bomb Fight

Postby dazza2008 on Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:17 pm

safariguy5 wrote:Wait, I'm confused, how does this affect the guilty investigation on jak? Given what CM5 has said, it seems like nothing has changed in that respect and I don't see any reason not to continue with it.


That is what I am not seeing too. He came back guilty so he should be lynched.
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