John Stewart vs Marco Rubio

[Phatscotty]

Ummm... Many try and fail every day....

So you're saying they...fail to create jobs, right? Why would that be...because people didn't want to buy their products for one reason or another, perhaps?

possibly. It could also possibly be a thousand other reasons.

It's also possible that it cost more money to employ someone now, and will cost more next year and the year after. Doesn't really help...

[Woodruff]

Ummm... Many try and fail every day....

So you're saying they...fail to create jobs, right? Why would that be...because people didn't want to buy their products for one reason or another, perhaps?

No... they fail mostly because of inferior products or the inability to compete with their competition.

Look... I understand what you are saying. Supply and demand, etc, etc..... I get that. But at some point there has to be an entity (or in many cases an individual) who assumes the risks of providing the product. If is was not for these people or corporations, this country would have never seen the growth that it did over the last 100 years. It is because of the ability of a few corporations to make products on a very large scale, that the products are even affordable for people to buy.

If the demand is there, SOMEONE WILL create the product. That is how it works. It's consumer-driven.

[xeno]

Stewart's smugness puts me off. I can still find him funny, just not as much as Colbert

[Nobunaga]

... Great video, Phatty. Thanks. I like Stewart more than I previously did - he appeared smarter than he normally does. Rubio is charismatic as hell.

[Woodruff]

... Great video, Phatty. Thanks. I like Stewart more than I previously did - he appeared smarter than he normally does.

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[MegaProphet]

Let's make sure we are all clear on one thing.... Yes there are big time corporate executives out there that make ungodly amounts of money but do you know what else those corporations do??? Oh that's right... create jobs!!!!

I am sorry Woodruff... but the argument that you are trying to make here is without a doubt one of the dumbest arguments that I have heard in a long time!

(1) You claim that corporations in general try to refrain from hiring to increase profits. (Question: please explain then how the rise of Walmart from a "mom and pop" store, to the 2nd largest private employer in the world, did not create jobs???) FYI... there are only 3 entities that employ more people than Walmart... the number 1 private employer (and the US and Chinese governments)

WalMart is a bad example for your part because WalMart has also destroyed a great many jobs as well. Also, how many people would WalMart employ if nobody wanted to buy their products? [/quote]

I think this is the most important point. Large corporations destroy just as many jobs as they create. Walmarts routinely destroy the smaller stores that create more jobs. The gap between classes is growing larger and larger everyday.

[Nobunaga]

Let's make sure we are all clear on one thing.... Yes there are big time corporate executives out there that make ungodly amounts of money but do you know what else those corporations do??? Oh that's right... create jobs!!!!

I am sorry Woodruff... but the argument that you are trying to make here is without a doubt one of the dumbest arguments that I have heard in a long time!

(1) You claim that corporations in general try to refrain from hiring to increase profits. (Question: please explain then how the rise of Walmart from a "mom and pop" store, to the 2nd largest private employer in the world, did not create jobs???) FYI... there are only 3 entities that employ more people than Walmart... the number 1 private employer (and the US and Chinese governments)

WalMart is a bad example for your part because WalMart has also destroyed a great many jobs as well. Also, how many people would WalMart employ if nobody wanted to buy their products?

I think this is the most important point. Large corporations destroy just as many jobs as they create. Walmarts routinely destroy the smaller stores that create more jobs. The gap between classes is growing larger and larger everyday.

... Please be specific. How are these large corporations destroying jobs, exactly? Apply this theory to, say... Dupont, Microsoft and Shell Oil. If those won't work, pick a few others, no matter.

... Looking forward to the response. Thanks.

...

[MegaProphet]

Let's make sure we are all clear on one thing.... Yes there are big time corporate executives out there that make ungodly amounts of money but do you know what else those corporations do??? Oh that's right... create jobs!!!!

I am sorry Woodruff... but the argument that you are trying to make here is without a doubt one of the dumbest arguments that I have heard in a long time!

(1) You claim that corporations in general try to refrain from hiring to increase profits. (Question: please explain then how the rise of Walmart from a "mom and pop" store, to the 2nd largest private employer in the world, did not create jobs???) FYI... there are only 3 entities that employ more people than Walmart... the number 1 private employer (and the US and Chinese governments)

WalMart is a bad example for your part because WalMart has also destroyed a great many jobs as well. Also, how many people would WalMart employ if nobody wanted to buy their products?

I think this is the most important point. Large corporations destroy just as many jobs as they create. Walmarts routinely destroy the smaller stores that create more jobs. The gap between classes is growing larger and larger everyday.

... Please be specific. How are these large corporations destroying jobs, exactly? Apply this theory to, say... Dupont, Microsoft and Shell Oil. If those won't work, pick a few others, no matter.

... Looking forward to the response. Thanks.

...

I suppose I should have added a most before large companies in that statement, huh? It's more true in some industries than in others that big business pushes out smaller mom & pop stores and support less employees. Clothing manufacturers, Kohl's for example, are able to make clothes for much less, by using fewer employees than any local company could. Here in Colorado large companies like Empire Dairy have eliminated almost all their rivals by using their more advanced technology and crowding more cows into smaller areas of land.

[Nobunaga]

Let's make sure we are all clear on one thing.... Yes there are big time corporate executives out there that make ungodly amounts of money but do you know what else those corporations do??? Oh that's right... create jobs!!!!

I am sorry Woodruff... but the argument that you are trying to make here is without a doubt one of the dumbest arguments that I have heard in a long time!

(1) You claim that corporations in general try to refrain from hiring to increase profits. (Question: please explain then how the rise of Walmart from a "mom and pop" store, to the 2nd largest private employer in the world, did not create jobs???) FYI... there are only 3 entities that employ more people than Walmart... the number 1 private employer (and the US and Chinese governments)

WalMart is a bad example for your part because WalMart has also destroyed a great many jobs as well. Also, how many people would WalMart employ if nobody wanted to buy their products?

I think this is the most important point. Large corporations destroy just as many jobs as they create. Walmarts routinely destroy the smaller stores that create more jobs. The gap between classes is growing larger and larger everyday.

... Please be specific. How are these large corporations destroying jobs, exactly? Apply this theory to, say... Dupont, Microsoft and Shell Oil. If those won't work, pick a few others, no matter.

... Looking forward to the response. Thanks.

...

I suppose I should have added a most before large companies in that statement, huh? It's more true in some industries than in others that big business pushes out smaller mom & pop stores and support less employees. Clothing manufacturers, Kohl's for example, are able to make clothes for much less, by using fewer employees than any local company could. Here in Colorado large companies like Empire Dairy have eliminated almost all their rivals by using their more advanced technology and crowding more cows into smaller areas of land.

... The "mom & pop" stores cannot compete with the much larger companies that have ready access to foreign labor, and vastly larger sums of cash (for technology, etc..).

... I understand what you're saying and see your point. Thanks.

[Woodruff]

... The "mom & pop" stores cannot compete with the much larger companies that have ready access to foreign labor, and vastly larger sums of cash (for technology, etc..).
... I understand what you're saying and see your point. Thanks.

Particularly the "foreign labor" point is important, to me. I understand that larger companies are going to have more efficient means of creating (and especially) distributing products, and I'm pretty much ok with that even though it does mean they will price-out the mom&pop type stores to a degree. But the use of foreign labor to bring prices down and thus killing off local jobs at the same time really does get my goat.

[Nobunaga]

... The "mom & pop" stores cannot compete with the much larger companies that have ready access to foreign labor, and vastly larger sums of cash (for technology, etc..).
... I understand what you're saying and see your point. Thanks.

Particularly the "foreign labor" point is important, to me. I understand that larger companies are going to have more efficient means of creating (and especially) distributing products, and I'm pretty much ok with that even though it does mean they will price-out the mom&pop type stores to a degree. But the use of foreign labor to bring prices down and thus killing off local jobs at the same time really does get my goat.

... I agree that WallMart and the like can hurt/kill local business, but on the bright side, the poor have more buying power with their dollars due to such large businesses and their use of foreign labor.

... And I do know, if I want an item of any measurable quality, I do not look for it at WallMart, Target, etc..

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