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Re: Bigoted Organization "Chic-Fil-A" infiltrates facebook

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:37 am

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Lootifer wrote:Bigotry: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

Intolerance: lack of toleration; unwillingness or refusal to tolerate or respect contrary opinions or beliefs, persons of different races or backgrounds, etc.

Pretty open and shut case to be honest. By opposing gay marriage you are being a bigot; sure its only a minor offence as far as the wider area of bigotry is concerned (I for one am glad you arent going out every night and beating the shit out of suspected fags NS), but it is bigotry nonetheless.

Yes this definition pretty makes everyone on CC OT forums a bigot (except for me, Im pretty much an angel) but it is what it is.


Let's run with this. As you've implied, according to those definitions then anyone opposed to fascism or Nazism is also a bigot. They'd be a bigot for good reasons in my opinion, but they'd be a bigot nonetheless.

So, then we'd have argue about who is a "good bigot" and who is a "bad bigot."

Henceforth, all accusations of bigotry should include "good" or "bad" before the word "bigotry/bigot."

Excellent work, Lootifer.


hey look, you guys are restating things that IVE ALREADY MENTIONED IN OFF-TROPICS


anyway, I still find it hilarious that people still take Sunday off for religious reasons. I mean, I like taking sundays off so I can golf or watch football, but it'll be a hilarious coincidence when one of these people get injured but can't go to the ER because no one's allowed to work on Sundays.


HEY, NO ONE TAKES YOU SERIOUSLY, AOG, BECAUSE OF YOUR SMALL STATURE.


Honestly, I haven't seen you say what Lootifer has said. But hey, even if you provide a quote of you saying so, I'll ignore it on the basis that you support Obama; therefore, you're wrong.
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Re: Bigoted Organization "Chic-Fil-A" infiltrates facebook

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:40 am

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Dibbun wrote:Who cares what the leader of a restaurant says about politics? Do you need to have your business leaders agree with your every opinion? What do their opinions have to do with the quality of their product?


Isn't that a part of the influence of a free market? Consumer-coporate relationships?


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It is, and this can be a tragic consequence; however, at least people have a range of choices in the businesses which they support. If you disagree with a government's stance on gay marriage, then that's too bad because they'll involuntarily take your money from you anyway. At least with free markets, you can directly support whoever through their profit incentives. With government, preference is reflected through voting, which in most cases (especially at the federal level) is simply ineffective.
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Re: Bigoted Organization "Chic-Fil-A" infiltrates facebook

Postby notyou2 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:58 am

Night Strike wrote:And here the intolerants are back out trolling CC with their complete intolerance of any view that opposes theirs. Being against homosexual marriage is still not bigoted, yet that's the only accusation being thrown out there. Chick-Fil-A has always been a business run by Christians, observable by its dedication to customer service and being closed on Sundays, so it shouldn't be surprising to anybody that the Christian CEO would also be against homosexual marriage, much like approximately 60% of the population.


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Re: Bigoted Organization "Chic-Fil-A" infiltrates facebook

Postby Juan_Bottom on Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:27 pm

Night Strike wrote:Modus operandi for many of the militant atheist liberals who reside on CC.

I am that Militant Atheist Liberal and "Chic-Fil-A's" president is expressing views of hate because, as I already said, there's no rational or scientific reason to oppose gay marriage. You just want feel like you're better than someone else and you use the Bible to justify it.
We can see right through you.

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Juan_Bottom wrote:Hating homosexuals or being opposed to Homosexual marriage has nothing to do with Christianity. Here's why:

In the Old Testament, God commands you to *murder homosexuals. So why don't Christians follow through? Because they say that Jesus came to replace Old Testament laws or whatever. Other laws that were replaced include eating shellfish and shaving. And yet Jesus never said anything about homosexuality or opposing Gay Marriage, negating their excuse of being Christianly.
So people who use the Bible to justify their hatred towards homosexual equality are actually just exposing their own lack of belief or knowledge of the Bible. How can you use the Bible as a shield to protect you from being exposed as a bigot? You're pretty much putting words into Jesus' mouth to justify your hate-loving position, which sounds like something the devil would do.


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Leviticus 20:13 wrote:If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them.


Actually, Jesus himself clearly affirmed that marriage is only between one man and one woman. He didn't outright make a statement condemning homosexuality (although Paul did) because he clearly defined the only marriage that is Biblically valid.




Separation of Church and State. It doesn't matter how you as an individual want to interpret the Bible's version of marriage; because you shouldn't be trying to force your Bible laws down our throats. What is this, Sharia Law time?
My point still stands. Jesus spoke of love and tolerance. He never said that it was up to his pretend followers to stop the gay marriage menace. It's "love they neighbor" not "impose Sharia Law on thy neighbor." Jews can't eat pork, but you don't see them passing laws to stop us from doing it.
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Postby Juan_Bottom on Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:27 pm

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Re: Bigoted Organization "Chic-Fil-A" infiltrates facebook

Postby Juan_Bottom on Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:29 pm

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Dibbun wrote:I would be impressed if young liberal douchebags would take a stance against diamonds - since mercantilism is so destructive of an economic system that the United States fought a war of independence to overthrow it - in order to help Africa develop itself into a modern capitalistic civilization.


Many liberals are VERY against the diamond market, actually.


I told my girlfriend that I was gonna get her a Ruby engagement ring.

We're not together anymore. :(
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Re: Bigoted Organization "Chic-Fil-A" infiltrates facebook

Postby Neoteny on Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:29 pm

I gave my wife a ruby engagement ring. Paying diamond ring price on a non diamond ring can get a pretty absurd sized rock too, if they're into that sort of thing.

Because I'm so fucking cutting edge, I also have a tungsten band.
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Re: Bigoted Organization "Chic-Fil-A" infiltrates facebook

Postby GreecePwns on Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:34 pm

CEO of Chick-Fil-A/Kraft Foods (owners of Oreo's)/any company ever:

"Quick! Release a statement on XYZ political issue! There are demographics and target markets to be won, god dammit!
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Re: Bigoted Organization "Chic-Fil-A" infiltrates facebook

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:44 pm

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Wow! Iron clad proof of acceptable bigotry! in other worse..."you thought you had the freedom to speak freely, buy you don't!"

People, look at what is happening here. We are destroying the right for every single person to speak freely, all in the name of forcing acceptance of a privilege/"right" that has never existed since the beginning of civilization up until a few years ago in a handful of places.

I rest my case
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Re: Bigoted Organization "Chic-Fil-A" infiltrates facebook

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:52 pm

Phatscotty wrote:Wow! Iron clad proof of acceptable bigotry! in other worse..."you thought you had the freedom to speak freely, buy you don't!"

People, look at what is happening here. We are destroying the right for every single person to speak freely, all in the name of forcing acceptance of a privilege/"right" that has never existed since the beginning of civilization up until a few years ago in a handful of places.

I rest my case

Everyone can still speak freely, you just have to accept that any speech has consequences (foreseeable or otherwise).


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Re: Bigoted Organization "Chic-Fil-A" infiltrates facebook

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:53 pm

Phatscotty wrote:Wow! Iron clad proof of acceptable bigotry! in other worse..."you thought you had the freedom to speak freely, buy you don't!"

People, look at what is happening here. We are destroying the right for every single person to speak freely, all in the name of forcing acceptance of a privilege/"right" that has never existed since the beginning of civilization up until a few years ago in a handful of places.

I rest my case


He has the freedom to speak, the philadelphia city councilman has the freedom to introduce a resolution or whatever and the people have the freedom to boycott or support any of the previous decisions.

Freedom's interesting like that.

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Re: Bigoted Organization "Chic-Fil-A" infiltrates facebook

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:00 pm

Haggis_McMutton wrote:He has the freedom to speak, the philadelphia city councilman has the freedom to introduce a resolution or whatever and the people have the freedom to boycott or support any of the previous decisions.

Freedom's interesting like that.

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Postby Juan_Bottom on Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:16 pm

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Postby Phatscotty on Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:54 pm

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Bigotry on parade.

I call on supporters of traditional values to make a stand, STARTING NOW!
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Re: Bigoted Organization "Chic-Fil-A" infiltrates facebook

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:55 pm

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Wow! Iron clad proof of acceptable bigotry! in other worse..."you thought you had the freedom to speak freely, buy you don't!"

People, look at what is happening here. We are destroying the right for every single person to speak freely, all in the name of forcing acceptance of a privilege/"right" that has never existed since the beginning of civilization up until a few years ago in a handful of places.

I rest my case


He has the freedom to speak, the philadelphia city councilman has the freedom to DISCRIMINATE AND STIFLE FREE SPEECH.


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Philadelphia city councilman says "We don't take kindly to YOUR kind around here ChikFilA. We think you better leave". Haggis supports this 100%. This is fucking disgusting, and if the politics were reversed you would agree in a heart beat.
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Re: Bigoted Organization "Chic-Fil-A" infiltrates facebook

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:11 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Wow! Iron clad proof of acceptable bigotry! in other worse..."you thought you had the freedom to speak freely, buy you don't!"

People, look at what is happening here. We are destroying the right for every single person to speak freely, all in the name of forcing acceptance of a privilege/"right" that has never existed since the beginning of civilization up until a few years ago in a handful of places.

I rest my case

Everyone can still speak freely, you just have to accept that any speech has consequences (foreseeable or otherwise).


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Sure speech has consequences....but, from the government????? :-s
The consequences you and others seem to be supporting are BLATANT DISCRIMINATION.

The consequences should be felt at an individual level, such as "I'm not going to eat at ChikFilA anymore". This is a GOVERNMENT discriminating. This is 100% pure hypocrisy, and I am sorry that you and others could not see this for what it is sooner. I thought we've already been over this, and I am quite happy to have to remind you all, but the government cannot discriminate based on peoples religions, race, gender, creed, or sexual preference.
I will have to put this in a way that I know will make you understand.

A city discriminating against a business for having Christian beliefs is EXACTLY the same as a government discriminating against a business for having Islamic beliefs.

You cannot get around this. I hereby FORCE you to think! 8-)
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Re: Bigoted Organization "Chic-Fil-A" infiltrates facebook

Postby IcePack on Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:24 pm

Taken from an interesting article I read:

Chicago became the latest city to tell Chick-fil-A it isn't welcome because its president doesn't support gay marriage, legal experts said the communities don't have a drumstick to stand on.

Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel became the second big-city mayor to blast the company over president Dan Cathy's comment last week that he is “guilty as charged” for supporting the traditional definition of marriage. Emanuel spoke up after Alderman Proco Joe Moreno announced he intends to block the chain from opening its second Chicago location over his stance.

But barring the popular fast-food restaurant over the personal views of Cathy is an “open and shut” discrimination case, says legal experts.

“The government can regulate discrimination in employment or against customers, but what the government cannot do is to punish someone for their words,” said Adam Schwartz, senior attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union of Illinois. “When an alderman refuses to allow a business to open because its owner has expressed a viewpoint the government disagrees with, the government is practicing viewpoint discrimination.”

The ACLU “strongly supports” same-sex marriage, Schwartz said, but noted that if a government can exclude a business for being against same-sex marriage, it can also exclude a business for being in support of same-sex marriage.

“But we also support the First Amendment,” he said. “We don’ think the government should exclude Chick-fil-A because of the anti-LGBT message. We believe this is clear cut.”

Jonathan Turley, a professor at the George Washington University Law School, said Moreno’s intentions raises “serious” constitutional concerns.

“It’s also a very slippery slope,” Turley said. “If a City Council started to punish companies because of the viewpoints of their chief operating officers, that would become a very long list of banned companies.”

If Moreno did indeed put such a plan into action, it would be “excessive and likely unconstitutional,” Turley said.

Wilson Huhn, a professor and associate director of the Constitutional Law Center at The University of Akron School of Law, echoed Turley’s stance, saying that a denial on behalf of Moreno regarding a second Chick-fil-A restaurant in Chicago’s Logan Square neighborhood would “absolutely” violate the First Amendment.

“It would be an open and shut case,” Huhn said. “You can’t do that. They cannot be denied a zoning permit based upon the viewpoint of their CEO.”

Moreno and Emanuel can express their personal opinion on the matter, Huhn said, including the organization of boycotts and protests against the fast food chain.

“But if official action were taken against Chick-fil-A based upon their opposition to same-sex marriage by denying them permits or to prevent their restaurant from expanding, that would absolutely be viewpoint discrimination,” Huhn said.

Meanwhile, in a statement released Thursday, the owner and operator of Chicago’s only Chick-fil-A restaurant — which created 97 jobs in the past year — invited Emanuel to meet with her. The invitation came after Emanuel said opening a second location in the city would be a “bad investment” following Moreno’s statement.

In a statement, Sarah Hamilton, a spokeswoman for Emanuel, said that the mayor said that Cathy did not share Chicago’s values.

“He did not say that he would block or play any role in the company opening a new restaurant here,” Hamilton said in a statement. “If they meet all the usual requirements, then they can open their restaurant, but their values aren't reflective of our city.”

The Atlanta-based chain declined to comment for this story.

Reached by phone Thursday, Moreno first appeared to back away from his stance, saying traffic concerns drive his objections to the store. But when pressed,  Moreno refused to back off his criticism of Cathy’s position on same-sex marriage.

“No, I’m not saying that, I’m not walking back about from that,” Moreno said when asked if his objection to the restaurant has nothing to do with Cathy’s beliefs. “That’s another part of it .. I think businesses should be neutral on that. They should be selling chicken.”

Last week, Boston Mayor Thomas Menino told the Boston Herald that “it will be very difficult” for Chick-fil-A to obtain licenses for a restaurant in Boston. But on Thursday, Menino backed away from that threat, saying he won’t actively block the chain.

“I can’t do that,” he told the Herald. “That would be interference to his rights to go there.”


 
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Re: Bigoted Organization "Chic-Fil-A" infiltrates facebook

Postby patches70 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:25 pm

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Ha ha! Silly liberals, can't see that this was nothing more than pandering at best. From the Boston Herald today the mayor recanted his threats.

http://www.bostonherald.com/business/ge ... position=0

Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino wrote:I can’t do that. That would be interference to his rights to go there,



Ahh, the mindless love to be pandered to.

-->Private citizen voices his opinion
-->population segment angry about opinion
-->opportunistic politician writes scathing threat to private citizen
-->population segment cheer "heroic" politician"
-->politician gleams in the lime light
-->calmer heads publish scathing rebukes to the hypocrisy of politician
-->politician recants threat, acknowledging that he never had the power or right to make good on his threat in the first place.
-->population segment ignore that last bit. Instead paint up colorful placards and kiss each other repeatedly until a full on orgy develops and the whole matter is quickly forgotten.
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Re: Bigoted Organization "Chic-Fil-A" infiltrates facebook

Postby Lootifer on Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:30 pm

You are right PS; actively blocking the stores is an act of discrimination. Clear cut.

Its like the old rules our mothers used to tells us: Two wrongs dont make a right.
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Postby Phatscotty on Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:36 pm

Government "No XYZ's allowed here"

Liberals = =D> =D> =D>



They were wearing the red scarves around their necks in solidarity with Communist dictatorships of the past, skipping from one battle to another, bringing nothing but lies, destruction and chaos everywhere they went, and they always escaped and could never be held accountable for the evil they had wrought. And then, in the end when they fail miserably, they think they can just take the scarf off and pretend like nothing ever happened. Except for one thing. The last day they wore their scarves to mark the insanity, it was extremely hot and particularly humid. When order was restored early the next morning and the scarves had been removed, they thought they were safe from being identified. Little did they know that the humidity from the day before had caused their necks to show red dye from wearing the scarf....

These are some REAL rednecks we are dealing with here
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Re: Bigoted Organization "Chic-Fil-A" infiltrates facebook

Postby Lootifer on Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:38 pm

You are right PS; actively blocking the stores is an act of discrimination. Clear cut.

Its like the old rules our mothers used to tells us: Two wrongs dont make a right.

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Phatscotty wrote:Government "No XYZ's allowed here"

Liberals = =D> =D> =D>

They were wearing the red scarves around their necks in solidarity with Communist dictatorships of the past, skipping from one battle to another, bringing nothing but lies, destruction and chaos everywhere they went, and they always escaped and could never be held accountable for the evil they had wrought. And then, in the end when they fail miserably, they think they can just take the scarf off and pretend like nothing ever happened. Except for one thing. The last day they wore their scarves to mark the insanity, it was extremely hot and particularly humid. When order was restored early the next morning and the scarves had been removed, they thought they were safe from being identified. Little did they know that the humidity from the day before had caused their necks to show red dye from wearing the scarf....

These are some REAL rednecks we are dealing with here

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Postby Phatscotty on Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:38 pm

Lootifer wrote:
You are right PS; actively blocking the stores is an act of discrimination. Clear cut.

Its like the old rules our mothers used to tells us: Two wrongs dont make a right.

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Phatscotty wrote:Government "No XYZ's allowed here"

Liberals = =D> =D> =D>

They were wearing the red scarves around their necks in solidarity with Communist dictatorships of the past, skipping from one battle to another, bringing nothing but lies, destruction and chaos everywhere they went, and they always escaped and could never be held accountable for the evil they had wrought. And then, in the end when they fail miserably, they think they can just take the scarf off and pretend like nothing ever happened. Except for one thing. The last day they wore their scarves to mark the insanity, it was extremely hot and particularly humid. When order was restored early the next morning and the scarves had been removed, they thought they were safe from being identified. Little did they know that the humidity from the day before had caused their necks to show red dye from wearing the scarf....

These are some REAL rednecks we are dealing with here

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Im a liberal by the way.


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Postby Bones2484 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:43 pm

Just want to point out that the mayors never said in those letters "No XYZ's allowed here" nor did they say they would block it from happening.

So, a more accurate portrayal of the events is:

Major: I cannot stop you, but you are not welcome
Liberals = =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

Pretty big difference.
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Postby HapSmo19 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:47 pm

IcePack wrote:In a statement, Sarah Hamilton, a spokeswoman for Emanuel, said that the mayor said that Cathy did not share Chicago’s values.


So, honesty is the problem.....

Makes sense.
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Postby Lootifer on Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:47 pm

Yeh dont get me wrong, id be voting for that dude next election given the chance.

But he could have worded it better... stupid politics.
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