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What regular things from today will seem insane in 100years?

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A lot of the things that were considered normal a couple centuries ago are now viewed as barbaric and pretty much batshit insane.

It seems reasonable to believe the same will happen to us.
So what things do you think will suffer this fate?

I'll get the ball rolling:

Regularly driving cars at high speeds without computer guided correction, thus ensuring that you are constantly one hand motion away from fiery death. The fact that it was normal for thousands of people to die exactly in that manner every year.
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"Look at these barbarians. They had to type and point-and-click to navigate through CC, (a.k.a. Cyber Consciousness, or to use the archaic term, the Internet). Today, we navigate with NervDat (some futuristic Plug and Play hardware that connects the brain to a computer). Those poor, poor moles (formerly know as, "the victims of carpal tunnel syndrome," but they appear to apply this term to all barbaric Internet users)."


The future will be full of jerks. Calling us barbarians and moles. :( I hope I can live to 200, so I can bitch at them in my old man's voice.
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BigBallinStalin wrote:"Look at these barbarians. They had to type and point-and-click to navigate through CC, (a.k.a. Cyber Consciousness, or to use the archaic term, the Internet). Today, we navigate with NervDat (some futuristic Plug and Play hardware that connects the brain to a computer). Those poor, poor moles (formerly know as, "the victims of carpal tunnel syndrome," but they appear to apply this term to all barbaric Internet users)."


The future will be full of jerks. Calling us barbarians and moles. :( I hope I can live to 200, so I can bitch at them in my old man's voice.
Btw, the "way-back machine" is pretty cool even now. Can you image what it'll be like to go through internet archives from 50+ years ago.

Heh, that's be a cool job. Internet archaeologist.

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Death and aging (hopefully).

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I would say pretty much everything...fashion, social values, economics, technology, etc.

I mean, think back to the year 1900. What's stayed the same since then?
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Army of GOD wrote:I would say pretty much everything...fashion, social values, economics, technology, etc.

I mean, think back to the year 1900. What's stayed the same since then?
toilets ?

I don't think things'll change to the point of being unrecognizable (except for technology of course). But economics, social values etc generally take quite a while to fundamentally shift (unless we all become cyborgs or some shit I guess).
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TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Death and aging (hopefully).

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I'm sure death will still be relatively common, even if aging is cured.

I wonder how curing aging would affect risk taking behaviour. Suddenly you have a hell of a lot more years to lose if you die.
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People will consider tobacco insane.
ALso owning a car will be only for the eccentric.
I would imagine printed books will look rather quaint.
As will the idea of ironing clothes. Who wants flat clothes? Flat people?
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jonesthecurl wrote:As will the idea of ironing clothes. Who wants flat clothes? Flat people?
I'm way ahead of the curve on this one.
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The belief in religions.
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Haggis_McMutton wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:As will the idea of ironing clothes. Who wants flat clothes? Flat people?
I'm way ahead of the curve on this one.
Yeah it used to be my unfavorite chore. So we just stopped, about two years ago. If anyone needs a particular piece of clothing ironed for a particular reason, that happens. Otherwise, no - and so far I am unable to detect any "down" side to it.
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The fact that people couldn't become invisible at will.
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I think the better question is "what regular things from today won't seem insane in 100 years?"
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Multiculturalism.

If leftists were smart and not retarded they'd realise that the trend over the past thousands of years has been a homogenizing of cultures. As technology grows, distances vanish and invariably one culture begins to spread, dominating all others. Today this culture is Westernism - characterized by it's value of material wealth, leftism and rejection of higher ideals.
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Upgrayedd wrote:Multiculturalism.

If leftists were smart and not retarded they'd realise that the trend over the past thousands of years has been a homogenizing of cultures. As technology grows, distances vanish and invariably one culture begins to spread, dominating all others. Today this culture is Westernism - characterized by it's value of material wealth, leftism and rejection of higher ideals.
If you sincerely care about that kind of subject matter, then you'd enjoy Tyler Cowen's Creative Destruction: How Globalization Is Changing the World's Cultures

(pm me for details).
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BigBallinStalin wrote:
Upgrayedd wrote:Multiculturalism.

If leftists were smart and not retarded they'd realise that the trend over the past thousands of years has been a homogenizing of cultures. As technology grows, distances vanish and invariably one culture begins to spread, dominating all others. Today this culture is Westernism - characterized by it's value of material wealth, leftism and rejection of higher ideals.
If you sincerely care about that kind of subject matter, then you'd enjoy Tyler Cowen's Creative Destruction: How Globalization Is Changing the World's Cultures

(pm me for details).
Book description makes author sound clueless.

Example:
Scrutinizing such manifestations of "indigenous" culture as the steel band ensembles of Trinidad, Indian handweaving, and music from Zaire, Cowen finds that they are more vibrant than ever
So music becomes more vibrant when based on Western music theory? Indian handweaving more vibrant when done in sweatshops (and not by hand)?

He's a typical Westerner looking at things through Disney goggles. As long as he gets to have fondue parties with his limp wristed, all white, "cosmopolitan" friends the world is the most vibrant culturally alive place of all time... so he claims. Best way to know the truth about something is to take the opposite stance of a leftist.
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Upgrayedd wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Upgrayedd wrote:Multiculturalism.

If leftists were smart and not retarded they'd realise that the trend over the past thousands of years has been a homogenizing of cultures. As technology grows, distances vanish and invariably one culture begins to spread, dominating all others. Today this culture is Westernism - characterized by it's value of material wealth, leftism and rejection of higher ideals.
If you sincerely care about that kind of subject matter, then you'd enjoy Tyler Cowen's Creative Destruction: How Globalization Is Changing the World's Cultures

(pm me for details).
Book description makes author sound clueless.

Example:
Scrutinizing such manifestations of "indigenous" culture as the steel band ensembles of Trinidad, Indian handweaving, and music from Zaire, Cowen finds that they are more vibrant than ever
So music becomes more vibrant when based on Western music theory? Indian handweaving more vibrant when done in sweatshops (and not by hand)?

He's a typical Westerner looking at things through Disney goggles. As long as he gets to have fondue parties with his limp wristed, all white, "cosmopolitan" friends the world is the most vibrant culturally alive place of all time... so he claims. Best way to know the truth about something is to take the opposite stance of a leftist.
Well, if you're willing to base your assumptions on a paragraph summarizing 190 pages, then what does that say about you?

He talks about cross-cultural exchange, which when introduced in many places, it produces changed forms of music or even new music--like the steel band ensembles of Trinidad and music from Zaire. It's not just Western music theory, which IIRC he doesn't even mention. It's about the development of markets and seemingly unrelated markets across countries which stimulates change and new forms of cultural products.

The steel drums of Trinidad didn't grow out of the ground; it come from petroleum companies, whose metal barrels were re-purporsed for making music. Zaire music, which developed alongside the introduction of new instruments from the West or Middle East, expanded greatly beyond Zaire, and into other cultures, which took it and changed it. This happens through trade, whether it's trade in ideas, instruments, theories, or whatever.

You wouldn't even have reggae and dub if Jamaica existed in autarky.


Indian handweaving expanded with an increase in trade with European and Middle Eastern markets--before it wasn't much, and without trade, we'd never know about Indian handweaving and what India would have to offer us. When machines replaced manual labor, it didn't replace all of handweaving (which some neglect to mention). It expanded greatly in the low-quality markets and fared poorly in the higher quality markets. This enabled developers to seek a comparative advantage in development of higher quality products. When the machines outsourced the production process for most basic parts of production (making wool, yarn, etc.), this left more time for handweavers to increase quality or produce higher quality goods because they didn't have to spend countless hours producing basic materials. New dyes were also introduced through trade. Without the trade, they would be left with the same range of colors (or lack of colors). The fact is that all this trade developed the handweaving industry, increased quality, and enabled many people around the world to enjoy these products--contrary to other opinions.

If you want to read the book, see the index, and you'll see what I'm talking about.
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BigBallinStalin wrote:
Upgrayedd wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Upgrayedd wrote:Multiculturalism.

If leftists were smart and not retarded they'd realise that the trend over the past thousands of years has been a homogenizing of cultures. As technology grows, distances vanish and invariably one culture begins to spread, dominating all others. Today this culture is Westernism - characterized by it's value of material wealth, leftism and rejection of higher ideals.
If you sincerely care about that kind of subject matter, then you'd enjoy Tyler Cowen's Creative Destruction: How Globalization Is Changing the World's Cultures

(pm me for details).
Book description makes author sound clueless.

Example:
Scrutinizing such manifestations of "indigenous" culture as the steel band ensembles of Trinidad, Indian handweaving, and music from Zaire, Cowen finds that they are more vibrant than ever
So music becomes more vibrant when based on Western music theory? Indian handweaving more vibrant when done in sweatshops (and not by hand)?

He's a typical Westerner looking at things through Disney goggles. As long as he gets to have fondue parties with his limp wristed, all white, "cosmopolitan" friends the world is the most vibrant culturally alive place of all time... so he claims. Best way to know the truth about something is to take the opposite stance of a leftist.
Well, if you're willing to base your assumptions on a paragraph summarizing 190 pages, then what does that say about you?

He talks about cross-cultural exchange, which when introduced in many places, it produces changed forms of music or even new music--like the steel band ensembles of Trinidad and music from Zaire. It's not just Western music theory, which IIRC he doesn't even mention. It's about the development of markets and seemingly unrelated markets across countries which stimulates change and new forms of cultural products.

The steel drums of Trinidad didn't grow out of the ground; it come from petroleum companies, whose metal barrels were re-purporsed for making music. Zaire music, which developed alongside the introduction of new instruments from the West or Middle East, expanded greatly beyond Zaire, and into other cultures, which took it and changed it. This happens through trade, whether it's trade in ideas, instruments, theories, or whatever.

You wouldn't even have reggae and dub if Jamaica existed in autarky.


Indian handweaving expanded with an increase in trade with European and Middle Eastern markets--before it wasn't much, and without trade, we'd never know about Indian handweaving and what India would have to offer us. When machines replaced manual labor, it didn't replace all of handweaving (which some neglect to mention). It expanded greatly in the low-quality markets and fared poorly in the higher quality markets. This enabled developers to seek a comparative advantage in development of higher quality products. When the machines outsourced the production process for most basic parts of production (making wool, yarn, etc.), this left more time for handweavers to increase quality or produce higher quality goods because they didn't have to spend countless hours producing basic materials. New dyes were also introduced through trade. Without the trade, they would be left with the same range of colors (or lack of colors). The fact is that all this trade developed the handweaving industry, increased quality, and enabled many people around the world to enjoy these products--contrary to other opinions.

If you want to read the book, see the index, and you'll see what I'm talking about.
You chastise me for making assumptions after reading the introduction? What do you think the introduction is there for?

And listen: using oil drums as makeshift instruments isn't a significant aspect of culture. If you want significant cultural differences look at ancient Greece - you have Athens a state dedicated to trade and democracy, Sparta a state dedicated to brutality and physical prowess, Thebes a state dedicated to spiritual fulfilment, and more. These pathetic little "cultural exchanges" in today's world pale in comparison to what took place thousands of years ago, even in such a small region as Greece.

The author of that book is retarded if he thinks the world's become more multicultural. Like I said, he's just some impotent old liberal arts professor throwing fondue parties with his equally lame friends while faking some cosmopolitan identity. I know his type, and they're all the same.

As for Indian handweaving, you are completely wrong about everything you said. Before British conquest of the subcontinent handweaving was a major industry, but then the British went and deliberately destroyed it in order to create a market for their own inferior products that they manufactured back home. It had nothing to do with cultural exchange or free market voodoo, it was simply imperialists stamping out local customs for their own gain.
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notyou2 wrote:Persecution of minorities whether they are visible or invisible minorities.
this is the only thing in the thread so far that i am confident will NOT change in 100 years
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Upgrayedd wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Upgrayedd wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Upgrayedd wrote:Multiculturalism.

If leftists were smart and not retarded they'd realise that the trend over the past thousands of years has been a homogenizing of cultures. As technology grows, distances vanish and invariably one culture begins to spread, dominating all others. Today this culture is Westernism - characterized by it's value of material wealth, leftism and rejection of higher ideals.
If you sincerely care about that kind of subject matter, then you'd enjoy Tyler Cowen's Creative Destruction: How Globalization Is Changing the World's Cultures

(pm me for details).
Book description makes author sound clueless.

Example:
Scrutinizing such manifestations of "indigenous" culture as the steel band ensembles of Trinidad, Indian handweaving, and music from Zaire, Cowen finds that they are more vibrant than ever
So music becomes more vibrant when based on Western music theory? Indian handweaving more vibrant when done in sweatshops (and not by hand)?

He's a typical Westerner looking at things through Disney goggles. As long as he gets to have fondue parties with his limp wristed, all white, "cosmopolitan" friends the world is the most vibrant culturally alive place of all time... so he claims. Best way to know the truth about something is to take the opposite stance of a leftist.
Well, if you're willing to base your assumptions on a paragraph summarizing 190 pages, then what does that say about you?

He talks about cross-cultural exchange, which when introduced in many places, it produces changed forms of music or even new music--like the steel band ensembles of Trinidad and music from Zaire. It's not just Western music theory, which IIRC he doesn't even mention. It's about the development of markets and seemingly unrelated markets across countries which stimulates change and new forms of cultural products.

The steel drums of Trinidad didn't grow out of the ground; it come from petroleum companies, whose metal barrels were re-purporsed for making music. Zaire music, which developed alongside the introduction of new instruments from the West or Middle East, expanded greatly beyond Zaire, and into other cultures, which took it and changed it. This happens through trade, whether it's trade in ideas, instruments, theories, or whatever.

You wouldn't even have reggae and dub if Jamaica existed in autarky.


Indian handweaving expanded with an increase in trade with European and Middle Eastern markets--before it wasn't much, and without trade, we'd never know about Indian handweaving and what India would have to offer us. When machines replaced manual labor, it didn't replace all of handweaving (which some neglect to mention). It expanded greatly in the low-quality markets and fared poorly in the higher quality markets. This enabled developers to seek a comparative advantage in development of higher quality products. When the machines outsourced the production process for most basic parts of production (making wool, yarn, etc.), this left more time for handweavers to increase quality or produce higher quality goods because they didn't have to spend countless hours producing basic materials. New dyes were also introduced through trade. Without the trade, they would be left with the same range of colors (or lack of colors). The fact is that all this trade developed the handweaving industry, increased quality, and enabled many people around the world to enjoy these products--contrary to other opinions.

If you want to read the book, see the index, and you'll see what I'm talking about.
You chastise me for making assumptions after reading the introduction? What do you think the introduction is there for?

And listen: using oil drums as makeshift instruments isn't a significant aspect of culture. If you want significant cultural differences look at ancient Greece - you have Athens a state dedicated to trade and democracy, Sparta a state dedicated to brutality and physical prowess, Thebes a state dedicated to spiritual fulfilment, and more. These pathetic little "cultural exchanges" in today's world pale in comparison to what took place thousands of years ago, even in such a small region as Greece.
Heyyy! Now at least you're admitting that you're previous claims have lost serious traction by now shifting to completely different topics. I'll take what I can!

But you're right to mention another example of cross-cultural exchange: the ancients civs around the Mediterranean! Darn that globalization and all that trade with its classical philosophy, epic stories, and other great pieces of literature!

re: underlined. It depends on how you wish to measure the significance of value of these cross-cultural exchanges. For some, "reggae is totes more awesome than stuff written by old stuffy Greek guys, banging at away at the butts of little slave boys."

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Whoa, settle down there, tough guy!
Upgrayedd wrote:As for Indian handweaving, you are completely wrong about everything you said.
If you wish to challenge yourself, you can have a gander at his sources, which say otherwise. I'll just take your opinions as entertaining tidbits until then.
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BigBallinStalin wrote:
Upgrayedd wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Upgrayedd wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Upgrayedd wrote:Multiculturalism.

If leftists were smart and not retarded they'd realise that the trend over the past thousands of years has been a homogenizing of cultures. As technology grows, distances vanish and invariably one culture begins to spread, dominating all others. Today this culture is Westernism - characterized by it's value of material wealth, leftism and rejection of higher ideals.
If you sincerely care about that kind of subject matter, then you'd enjoy Tyler Cowen's Creative Destruction: How Globalization Is Changing the World's Cultures

(pm me for details).
Book description makes author sound clueless.

Example:
Scrutinizing such manifestations of "indigenous" culture as the steel band ensembles of Trinidad, Indian handweaving, and music from Zaire, Cowen finds that they are more vibrant than ever
So music becomes more vibrant when based on Western music theory? Indian handweaving more vibrant when done in sweatshops (and not by hand)?

He's a typical Westerner looking at things through Disney goggles. As long as he gets to have fondue parties with his limp wristed, all white, "cosmopolitan" friends the world is the most vibrant culturally alive place of all time... so he claims. Best way to know the truth about something is to take the opposite stance of a leftist.
Well, if you're willing to base your assumptions on a paragraph summarizing 190 pages, then what does that say about you?

He talks about cross-cultural exchange, which when introduced in many places, it produces changed forms of music or even new music--like the steel band ensembles of Trinidad and music from Zaire. It's not just Western music theory, which IIRC he doesn't even mention. It's about the development of markets and seemingly unrelated markets across countries which stimulates change and new forms of cultural products.

The steel drums of Trinidad didn't grow out of the ground; it come from petroleum companies, whose metal barrels were re-purporsed for making music. Zaire music, which developed alongside the introduction of new instruments from the West or Middle East, expanded greatly beyond Zaire, and into other cultures, which took it and changed it. This happens through trade, whether it's trade in ideas, instruments, theories, or whatever.

You wouldn't even have reggae and dub if Jamaica existed in autarky.


Indian handweaving expanded with an increase in trade with European and Middle Eastern markets--before it wasn't much, and without trade, we'd never know about Indian handweaving and what India would have to offer us. When machines replaced manual labor, it didn't replace all of handweaving (which some neglect to mention). It expanded greatly in the low-quality markets and fared poorly in the higher quality markets. This enabled developers to seek a comparative advantage in development of higher quality products. When the machines outsourced the production process for most basic parts of production (making wool, yarn, etc.), this left more time for handweavers to increase quality or produce higher quality goods because they didn't have to spend countless hours producing basic materials. New dyes were also introduced through trade. Without the trade, they would be left with the same range of colors (or lack of colors). The fact is that all this trade developed the handweaving industry, increased quality, and enabled many people around the world to enjoy these products--contrary to other opinions.

If you want to read the book, see the index, and you'll see what I'm talking about.
You chastise me for making assumptions after reading the introduction? What do you think the introduction is there for?

And listen: using oil drums as makeshift instruments isn't a significant aspect of culture. If you want significant cultural differences look at ancient Greece - you have Athens a state dedicated to trade and democracy, Sparta a state dedicated to brutality and physical prowess, Thebes a state dedicated to spiritual fulfilment, and more. These pathetic little "cultural exchanges" in today's world pale in comparison to what took place thousands of years ago, even in such a small region as Greece.
Heyyy! Now at least you're admitting that you're previous claims have lost serious traction by now shifting to completely different topics. I'll take what I can!

But you're right to mention another example of cross-cultural exchange: the ancients civs around the Mediterranean! Darn that globalization and all that trade with its classical philosophy, epic stories, and other great pieces of literature!

re: underlined. It depends on how you wish to measure the significance of value of these cross-cultural exchanges. For some, "reggae is totes more awesome than stuff written by old stuffy Greek guys, banging at away at the butts of little slave boys."

Upgrayedd wrote:The author of that book ......

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Whoa, settle down there, tough guy!
Upgrayedd wrote:As for Indian handweaving, you are completely wrong about everything you said.
If you wish to challenge yourself, you can have a gander at his sources, which say otherwise. I'll just take your opinions as entertaining tidbits until then.
My claim was that multiculturalism has declined over the past thousands of years due to advancement in communication technology. Ancient Greece was far more isolated and it's means of communication far more primitive than any country in today's world, and yet it produced some of the most diverse and enduring cultural legacies the world has ever known. So contrary to what you think it actually supports my notion and defeats yours.

And if you believe that deluded leftist's claims about handweaving, you need to get your head checked. They are so absurd that it's not worth my time (or anyone else's) to debunk them.
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