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wife taking husband's family name

Postby yang guize on Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:32 pm

in countries with a western culture it is usual for a woman to change her family name to that of her husband when they marry

why is this done? what is it supposed to signify?

also, western countries allow men to marry each other. what do you do then? :lol: do the two men decide who is most female and he has to change his name?
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Re: wife taking husband's family name

Postby Army of GOD on Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:34 pm

submission of the wife to the man.

honestly when I marry I wouldn't mind taking my wife's last name, assuming it's not generic like "Jones" or some stupid shit.
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Re: wife taking husband's family name

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:48 pm

yang guize wrote:in countries with a western culture it is usual for a woman to change her family name to that of her husband when they marry

why is this done? what is it supposed to signify?

also, western countries allow men to marry each other. what do you do then? :lol: do the two men decide who is most female and he has to change his name?


It's done to avoid the bitter arguments about who's name the kid gets.

When it's two men I believe it is decided via national lottery.
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Re: wife taking husband's family name

Postby yang guize on Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:48 pm

sometimes in very traditional (read: backward rural) chinese family the wife address her husband as 'mr. smith' or whatever, not his first name. do your wives submit in this way?

when your wife submits and takes your surname does the husband get to order her around?
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Postby Army of GOD on Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:21 pm

yang guize wrote:sometimes in very traditional (read: backward rural) chinese family the wife address her husband as 'mr. smith' or whatever, not his first name. do your wives submit in this way?

when your wife submits and takes your surname does the husband get to order her around?


depends on who controls the sex
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Re: wife taking husband's family name

Postby yang guize on Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:25 pm

i don't understand. controls the sex?
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Re: wife taking husband's family name

Postby Army of GOD on Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:30 pm

watashi namae wa Richard desu
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Re: wife taking husband's family name

Postby yang guize on Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:33 pm

i am not japanese
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Re: wife taking husband's family name

Postby natty dread on Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:44 pm

yang guize wrote:in countries with a western culture it is usual for a woman to change her family name to that of her husband when they marry

why is this done? what is it supposed to signify?

also, western countries allow men to marry each other. what do you do then? :lol: do the two men decide who is most female and he has to change his name?


Tradition/social convention stemming from an archaic remnant of a patriarchal culture. Not everyone does this anymore. Lot of the times, people either keep their original surnames, or take the wife's name, or use a combination of both with a hyphen in between.

Gay marriage has no such established cultural traditions so they get to make it up as they go.
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Re: wife taking husband's family name

Postby Army of GOD on Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:47 pm

yang guize wrote:i am not japanese


Chinese, Japanese, dirty knees, look at these
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Re: wife taking husband's family name

Postby Upgrayedd on Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:47 pm

So you can trace family lineage obviously.
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Re: wife taking husband's family name

Postby DiM on Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:49 pm

when me and my wife got married we couldn't decide who should take what name so we decided on a fair compromise. we went to random.org and generated a random string of letters and used that as our family name.

sadly as just as the dice, the letter generator is also streaky so now i'm called xxxxxxxxxxxx.
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Postby Haggis_McMutton on Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:50 pm

natty dread wrote: or use a combination of both with a hyphen in between.


Oh god, exponential growth.
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Re: wife taking husband's family name

Postby natty dread on Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:53 pm

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
natty dread wrote: or use a combination of both with a hyphen in between.


Oh god, exponential growth.


No problem! The algorithm can be adjusted by adding a loop counter which resets the surname every 16 generations into something generic like "Smith" or "Humperdinck".
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Re: wife taking husband's family name

Postby MeDeFe on Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:33 pm

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
natty dread wrote: or use a combination of both with a hyphen in between.

Oh god, exponential growth.

German lawmakers anticipated that and put an upper limit on the number of hyphens you can have in a surname, it's either one or two.
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Re: wife taking husband's family name

Postby yang guize on Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:36 pm

ah germany. a country where you are not allowed to have a long surname but where 'siebentausendvierhundertfünfundfünfzig' is a perfectly acceptable word
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Re: wife taking husband's family name

Postby MeDeFe on Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:00 pm

yang guize wrote:ah germany. a country where you are not allowed to have a long surname but where 'siebentausendvierhundertfünfundfünfzig' is a perfectly acceptable word

It contains only 15.2% more letters than "seventhousandfourhundredfiftyfive" and has only one syllable more. It's hardly a monster of a word.
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Re: wife taking husband's family name

Postby yang guize on Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:03 pm

but in english you say 'seven thousand, four hundred and fifty five'. not all one word as that is not correct.

in german joining it all up into one word is correct.
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Postby john9blue on Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:07 pm

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Re: wife taking husband's family name

Postby notyou2 on Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:14 pm

MeDeFe wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:
natty dread wrote: or use a combination of both with a hyphen in between.

Oh god, exponential growth.

German lawmakers anticipated that and put an upper limit on the number of hyphens you can have in a surname, it's either one or two.


Leave it to the Germans to make incredibly long words comprised of several other words.
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Re: wife taking husband's family name

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:14 pm

Here's my contribution to the Germany discussion.

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Re: wife taking husband's family name

Postby isaiah40 on Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:23 pm

Here's my contribution to long names - Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch. Means: St. Mary's Church in the hollow of white hazel near a rapid whirlpool and the Church of St. Tysilio near the red cave.
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Re: wife taking husband's family name

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:27 pm

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Re: wife taking husband's family name

Postby nagerous on Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:25 pm

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Re: wife taking husband's family name

Postby MeDeFe on Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:50 pm

yang guize wrote:but in english you say 'seven thousand, four hundred and fifty five'. not all one word as that is not correct.

in german joining it all up into one word is correct.

In that case it may even be shorter in German, and the number of syllables is identical.
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